The IHSA "We Screwed Up Please Cover For Us" Proposal Has Passed

CSLfan

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Sucks for kids that need summer jobs at pools, camps, country clubs.
It's worse for the coaches and kids who already have vacations planned because they assumed this would be deadweek from years ago. Now they are left scrambling or in some cases, will have to sit out the first game or miss a once in a lifetime vacation. I don't understand how it's a 10 year rollout for shot clocks in basketball compared to less than 6 months for the start of the season to be moved. This is just not a good decision for this season.
 

SilverHelmet

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That's pre tax and assuming 40 hours per week. I also haven't ever heard of a part time summer job requiring a 10-12 week contract.
It is one of the first question for a seasonal job: What would be the last day your could work? In the past, you could get away with missing the last week before school started because less kids are on camp or at the pool. Now if you are ending with 2 weeks left, employers could look at other options. It stinks for the kids because less summer is not better for anyone.
 
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Colin2299

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Uncommon opinion…

you don’t have to start on the 5th. You can start on the 7th or 8th and still get in -2 practices.

With the summer schedule allowances you can have your team ready for week 1 w/o starting on the 5th.

the bigger issue to me is why was the force in so quickly? Anyone have a good reason for that?
 

johnndoe

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Uncommon opinion…

you don’t have to start on the 5th. You can start on the 7th or 8th and still get in -2 practices.
With the summer schedule allowances you can have your team ready for week 1 w/o starting on the 5th.
the bigger issue to me is why was the force in so quickly? Anyone have a good reason for that?
Although not necessarily clearly intentional, it did deflect some attention ASAP off the private/public results from the '25 playoffs.
 

4Afan

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I never saw this thread turning into a discussion on jobs, minimum wage and taxes 😂
I know, right! Where some people's thoughts go to because the season is starting one whole week earlier is comical. It's going to cost kids jobs and they're going to have to cancel their European vacations. This decision just ruined summer for thousands of football players. 🙄
 

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Uncommon opinion…

you don’t have to start on the 5th. You can start on the 7th or 8th and still get in -2 practices.

With the summer schedule allowances you can have your team ready for week 1 w/o starting on the 5th.

the bigger issue to me is why was the force in so quickly? Anyone have a good reason for that?
Because the last proposal involving districts they (Roxana Liberated Army) had almost a two year window before it went into effect...the proposal passed, then once everyone got a look at what it would be really like the membership had plenty of time to kill it. Which they did. This time they purposely set a shortened time line.

I've been hearing a ton of One and Done from coaches across the state in regards to the playoff expansion. We will see.
 

SiuCubFan8

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It is one of the first question for a seasonal job: What would be the last day your could work? In the past, you could get away with missing the last week before school started because less kids are on camp or at the pool. Now if you are ending with 2 weeks left, employers could look at other options. It stinks for the kids because less summer is not better for anyone.
Never heard of that one…🤣
 
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Because the last proposal involving districts they (Roxana Liberated Army) had almost a two year window before it went into effect...the proposal passed, then once everyone got a look at what it would be really like the membership had plenty of time to kill it. Which they did. This time they purposely set a shortened time line.

I've been hearing a ton of One and Done from coaches across the state in regards to the playoff expansion. We will see.

So the 2027 postseason could retract the playoff expansion? Wonder when the first proposal is submitted to reverse the current system.
 

mc140

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This passed by 45 votes. As I said in a previous thread. This thing would have never passed if August 5th was in original proposal.
 
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Hearing we should expect multiple "anti" playoff expansion proposals as soon as possible
Angry Season 4 GIF by The Office
 

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Do you think the new playoff proposals will go back to the current setup, or be something different all together?
 

CSLfan

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I think that a 2 win season should qualify a team for the playoffs

who are we to think that a team in that position can’t make a deep run???
Is the postseason only for teams that are going to make a deep run? Because then there are a lot of teams that make the playoffs that should be barred from making the playoffs


I know, right! Where some people's thoughts go to because the season is starting one whole week earlier is comical. It's going to cost kids jobs and they're going to have to cancel their European vacations. This decision just ruined summer for thousands of football players. 🙄
I'm not sure I am reading this post correctly. I can't tell where the sarcasm ends, so if I am getting the wrong interpretation, my bad. But I do think that while it is more a reality in the CSL that vacations having a bigger impact than other communities, I think it is foolish to ignore that especially because I am not sure what the rush is. This is why I brought up shot clocks, which have been coming for almost a decade. I am going on a vacation this summer and I had the tickets bought before Thanksgiving, so I do not think it was foolish to assume there are players/families and coaches who are in the same boat. This was talked about between coaches when they first announced the change in schedule in December. To move the start of the year around with less than 6 months does seem like a factor that shouldn't be outright ignored. I do think if the playoff expansion holds (Edgy already hinting it might not), then starting on that Wednesday is better preparation for kids and for week 1, so this is the long term correct decision.

I think you agree with me but I can't tell if you're last sentence is sarcastic or not. I do not understand the "ruining" of the summer for thousands of kids. Just 2 years ago, they had 25 days of summer and 16 practices before week 1. Now it is 20 days of summer and 14 practices before week 1. So we are still down 7 days compared to 2 years ago and even down 2 days compared to last year. So I am not sure I fully understand the job argument because kids are getting MORE summer, even with this proposal. If a coach uses all allotted days it's 34 days, last year it was 36 and 2 years ago it was 41. So not sure how summer is ruined or jobs are being lost when they have more time to work.
 

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I think that a 2 win season should qualify a team for the playoffs

who are we to think that a team in that position can’t make a deep run???
This is the exact argument that the Indiana State Association makes for including everyone in the playoffs. A team that has struggled all year might get it together in week 10!
 

Colin2299

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The 2023 state championship Roadrunners started 0-4 and finished the regular season 4-5. I expect some 2-7 team to set a new precedent.
IC will be in the hunt every year in 3A no matter their record.

This is why this change is going to push the pendulum even more in favor of the CCL

Can already hear the uproar coming out of Antioch when their 9-0 team loses 42-7 to 2-7 Providence in round 2.
 

SiuCubFan8

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IC will be in the hunt every year in 3A no matter their record.

This is why this change is going to push the pendulum even more in favor of the CCL

Can already hear the uproar coming out of Antioch when their 9-0 team loses 42-7 to 2-7 Providence in round 2.
Here is your list of non-playoff teams from 2025 in CCL that would be in playoffs for 2026. Quick glance, might have missed one.
Leo
Marmion
Benet
DePaul
ND
Marist
Iggy

There are a few teams that certainly "could" win a Rd2 game with the right match up. I am not seeing any team going to quarters or Semis let alone state.
Maybe one year there will be a total one off but these teams listed were not very good for the most part.
 
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At $15 an hour minimum wage, $600. But they also might not get hired at all since many seasonal jobs require a commitment of 10-12 weeks .
Not if you're getting cash from the pickup truck at weeks end after putting in another pool. Corporate jobs in your teens is the literal death of your soul before it ever got to live.

That said, some kids really do need that money. Some families really need that money. And not just in Chicago...
 

HuskieFan2020

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That's pre tax and assuming 40 hours per week. I also haven't ever heard of a part time summer job requiring a 10-12 week contract.
Some jobs, especially those that are part time will only hire high school students now if they're able to commit to a minimum number of hours a week. For example, if they work at Jewel or Marianos, they have to be able to commit to at least 15 hours a week.

I know it sounds unfair but companies just cannot keep a steady labor force and have to resort to this tactic.
 

HuskieFan2020

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Do you think the new playoff proposals will go back to the current setup, or be something different all together?
If the member schools are smart, they will come up with a new system entirely. It'd be bad to go back to the way things were because then that likely means the publics and privates are together and we all know how that will go.
 

mc140

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Here is your list of non-playoff teams from 2025 in CCL that would be in playoffs for 2026. Quick glance, might have missed one.
Leo
Marmion
Benet
DePaul
ND
Marist
Iggy

There are a few teams that certainly "could" win a Rd2 game with the right match up. I am not seeing any team going to quarters or Semis let alone state.
Maybe one year there will be a total one off but these teams listed were not very good for the most part.
Its gonna take 4a and lower for a 2-7 ccl team to make a run. At some point they will run into a good CCL team in the upper classes.
 

4Afan

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If the member schools are smart, they will come up with a new system entirely. It'd be bad to go back to the way things were because then that likely means the publics and privates are together and we all know how that will go.
They're together now.
 

HuskieFan2020

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They're together now.
That is what I am saying. As an extension point, if coaches want to blow up the current format with the expanded playoffs and have something new, next year is the perfect year to start thinking about separating public and private schools.
 

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Lost in all these discussions (and in the proposal itself) is the financial fairness aspect of it relative to schools increasing their coaching stipends to reflect the additional week's worth of work. Not only are all coaches beginning a week earlier than in the past, but now many more coaches will be coaching an extra week because of the increased number of playoff qualifiers.

I'd love to know how many (if any) schools will increase their coaching stipends because of the extra week of coaching at the front end.

I suspect the answer will be even fewer than the number that have increased it proportionately when their schools have had their seasons extended in the past through playoff participation.

:rolleyes:
 
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PowerI66

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Lost in all these discussions (and in the proposal itself) is the financial fairness aspect of it relative to schools increasing their coaching stipends to reflect the additional week's worth of work. Not only are all coaches beginning a week earlier than in the past, but now many more coaches will be coaching an extra week because of the increased number of playoff qualifiers.

I'd love to know how many (if any) schools will increase their coaching stipends because of the extra week of coaching at the front end.

I suspect the answer will be even fewer than the number that have increased it proportionately when their schools have had their seasons extended in the past through playoff participation.

:rolleyes:
Most were already coaching during that time, and most schools don't give extra playoff pay...it's "built in". I'm betting schools won't change anything at all.
 
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Most were already coaching during that time, and most schools don't give extra playoff pay...it's "built in". I'm betting schools won't change anything at all.
Completely understood and agreed.

It just sems to me that the IHSA took for granted that coaches would be all in for the extra required week on the front end without being paid more for it. It's great that the coaches all are seemingly happy to do it, but wouldn't it have been nicer if they had been asked instead of told?
 
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4Afan

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Completely understood and agreed.

It just sems to me that the IHSA took for granted that coaches would be all in for the extra required week on the front end without being paid more for it. It's great that the coaches all are seemingly happy to do it, but wouldn't it have been nicer if they had been asked instead of told?
It truly is amazing what people are concerned about with the season starting a whole week earlier. First it was summer jobs and vacations, now it's coaches stipends and being paid a few more pennies for an extra week.