You may not like him but l love this!! Call the refs out. Call out the commissioner.
Gottlieb goes nuclear on refs
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You may not like him but l love this!! Call the refs out. Call out the commissioner.
I’m basically a Luddite but if there’s one job I want robots to takeover, it’s college basketball officiating
Refs need some noise canceling headphones. Some are so sensitive and some are so influenced by the home crowd.
Surprised he didn’t wait til his next on air show to boost ratings at the expense of his actual job.
Exactly what I told my wife the other day. I agree wholeheartedly! It affects outcomes of soooo many basketball games and not in a positive way.
At one point in the 2nd half, the foul total was 11-4 in Fla favor……like really??? I know it’s not the reason we lost but just because someone falls down doesn’t mean it’s the other teams fault. Then, Mo with his jersey pulled down gets the foul after a stupid review…….there’s zero accountability for the refs and it’s like watching a middle school game being officiated. These are major D1 athletes, every play doesn’t need a whistle or stop bailing out guys that are out of control and throw themselves into the defender.
Respect to the man for speaking some actual truth.
Some will say he wasn't professional. I disagree. I think the truth is the one thing every profession actually needs in this nation right now.
Some will say he wasn't professional. I disagree. I think the truth is the one thing every profession actually needs in this nation right now.
Need some clips of the actual plays he's referencing.
Live footage of me in my living room literally every UK game
I love what DG did there. I wish more coaches would do that. He's probably going to get fined, but something needs to he done, these college refs are so bad sometimes.
Then, they aren't held accountable. They just walk out of the arena, get into their cars and go home, after they just totally affected the outcome of a game.
In today's world, where gambling in sports is a problem, these refs should have to answer for their work.
Then, they aren't held accountable. They just walk out of the arena, get into their cars and go home, after they just totally affected the outcome of a game.
In today's world, where gambling in sports is a problem, these refs should have to answer for their work.
You can still deliver truth without being an ***. Not saying Gottlieb is/was but so many people think, "Well, since I'm speaking the truth I can say it however the hell I want." That's just now how human psychology works. When you're a giant Richard to people, it doesn't matter how right you are per se, ,because no one wants to give you the satisfaction at that point. That's why humans constantly choose sweet lies over rigid truth. With that being said, you can still be tactful and deliver truth.
I can speak from a practicality stand point. Imagine a boss walking in, start yelling about something that needs to be done, that you've already noted you will either do or have started on. Yeah, your boss is right, but because he's acting like the rear end of a donkey, now not only do you not want to finish the issue, no one else does either.
The art of learning how to tactfully tell someone to get **** done it is a well treasured gem.
The problem is no oversight, no accountability, no questions to refs, and corruption/incompetence.
Simply let it be known that the officiating issue appears to be unsolvable using humans to solely perform the task and that you are left with no choice but to develop an AI solution. You dont prefer that but one way or another the quality of college officiating is going to improve. The fans and players deserve consistency and a total lack of apparent bias. It is our hope that we never need an AI solution but one will be developed just in case it's needed.
One thing is certain, all D1 coaches/AD's/commissioners need to say the same thing. Follow thru and see what happens. The total officiating budget must be around 20M so an AI budget may even save a lot of money.
That can be said better, I'm half asleep.
One thing is certain, all D1 coaches/AD's/commissioners need to say the same thing. Follow thru and see what happens. The total officiating budget must be around 20M so an AI budget may even save a lot of money.
That can be said better, I'm half asleep.
On Dec 22, 2002 UK played IU and with the score 65 to 64, In the final seconds, Camara blocked a shot by Bracey Wright and Wright fell to the floor. It appeared, at the time, that Camara had made contact but no foul was called. Mike Davis stormed the court to protest the no-call. The ref tried walking away but Davis continued to follow him loudly protesting. Reading the ref's lips, he kept saying, "Walk away, coach! Walk away coach!" Davis persisted and received 2 T's. UK won the game 70 to 64. Replay, IMO, conclusively showed there was no contact. Jerry Tipton said it was "inconclusive" for what is is worth.
My point in posting this is to say that I loved this officiating in a highly charged rivalry game. The ref held his composure, gave every benefit and of the doubt and finally called a T when he was forced to do so by Davis. Imagine the ref doing that in the infamous Texas A&M game in which Humphries slammed the ball in celebration?
I think Doug's complaints are valid. He is owed an explanation and so are the fans. T's are too often called when some degree of restraint should be exercised. Games should not be decided by a T unless it is egregious as in the case of Mike Davis!
My point in posting this is to say that I loved this officiating in a highly charged rivalry game. The ref held his composure, gave every benefit and of the doubt and finally called a T when he was forced to do so by Davis. Imagine the ref doing that in the infamous Texas A&M game in which Humphries slammed the ball in celebration?
I think Doug's complaints are valid. He is owed an explanation and so are the fans. T's are too often called when some degree of restraint should be exercised. Games should not be decided by a T unless it is egregious as in the case of Mike Davis!
Will never forget that game.
I was like 8th row for that game! It was awesome. IU side because that’s where I could find tickets with my IU buddy. Great times. I was surrounded by hate. Hate hate hate Hoosiers lol. Back when they still believed they were ok.
The moment our country publicly decided that sports gambling was our national pastime, the notion of a fairly referred college basketball game went away. It isn't coming back.
Yes, I went to the game in the RCA dome Knight's last season, and was right beside the IU bench in the endzone. Surrounded by hate exactly. So I was 0% surprised at what went down in *** hall in 2011.
I agree. Tone matters. But sometimes tone needs to be amplified. We live in a feminized society where men think passive stoicism is the way to go. I've seen it from preachers. I've seen it from political leaders. There is a time to flip tables. That's what men in our society are lacking. We don't get riled up about anything anymore, and the only emotion left is either unmitigated masculine rage, or femininized toxicity. Finding a firm tone between those two worlds is precisely what is needed in the rare moments where blatant corruption is visible (as it was in the case of DG's game).
Am I wrong about this final sequence or did this happen?
The clock was messed up. GB fouled at 2.1 seconds. Clock not stopped until 1.6. After free throws GB inbounded the ball, Milwaukee committed a foul. GB should have gone to FT line with ,6 seonds left. Plenty of time to make a FT and then miss the 2nd one and try for a tip-in. ****** refs didn't make the call. Even if clock wasn't adjusted, there was still the foul on that inbounds with .1 seconds left.
The clock was messed up. GB fouled at 2.1 seconds. Clock not stopped until 1.6. After free throws GB inbounded the ball, Milwaukee committed a foul. GB should have gone to FT line with ,6 seonds left. Plenty of time to make a FT and then miss the 2nd one and try for a tip-in. ****** refs didn't make the call. Even if clock wasn't adjusted, there was still the foul on that inbounds with .1 seconds left.
They're betting on the games players and officials both
I like it any time a coach calls out officiating.
Love this! Bout time someone had these kinda balls. Fkn tired of the bullsht
I wish we had ANYONE with the courage to call this sht out!!
Unfortunately the people at the top will still be setting the programming... while we get the same ole sht
I believe that game was at Freedom Hall and I was there . If not I remember another time Davis stormed the court . In the paper the week before that game they said Mike Davis child had asked him “ Daddy are we ever going to beat Kentucky “
I really miss those UK v IU games at so called neutral sites where each team got half of the tickets . Those were the best .
I agree with most but also want to provide a counterview.
Most on this board think the SEC officials suck. They make $3000 a game. Horizon League officials make half that. Where are the good officials then? Shouldn't they also be in the SEC? Fans are obviously too hard on officials most of the time (sometimes it is warranted).
Being a ref is hard. The players are faster and more athletic than ever. It is hard to catch everything. Not to mention every hates officials and all they get is abuse. Why sign up for that?
There is accountability within conferences, it may just not be public. Again, it is hard enough to be an official, do you want the League to publish a list of every mistake they made in every game? There wouldn't be officials.
Most conference coordinators take feedback from coaches, address issues, and reprimand officials. The public just doesn't see that.
Most on this board think the SEC officials suck. They make $3000 a game. Horizon League officials make half that. Where are the good officials then? Shouldn't they also be in the SEC? Fans are obviously too hard on officials most of the time (sometimes it is warranted).
Being a ref is hard. The players are faster and more athletic than ever. It is hard to catch everything. Not to mention every hates officials and all they get is abuse. Why sign up for that?
There is accountability within conferences, it may just not be public. Again, it is hard enough to be an official, do you want the League to publish a list of every mistake they made in every game? There wouldn't be officials.
Most conference coordinators take feedback from coaches, address issues, and reprimand officials. The public just doesn't see that.
He's not wrong. His guy is first to the ball. Milwaukee is late.
Since you didn't put it in the form of a question, you don't win Final Jeopardy but you are correct. It was in Freedom Hall.
35,000 people will claim to have been there; however, I was NOT there.
The announcer: "Energy was rewarded there." Unbelievable call and take.
Well I was in fact there. One of the handful of Louisville games o I have been fortunate enough to attend over the years. I’ve only been to about 15 games in my life. It’s getting so expensive now it’s tough to go.
I had student tickets for a couple years, so I have been to a few (maybe 30 total?), but never to a Louisville game. We went to the lottery for Pitino's first year, and we sat in Memorial Coliseum for three hours and they ran out of tickets right before our group got called up. People were PISSED. I went to the Indiana game at Rupp in 2010-11. The last game (regular season) that I've been to was the Gonzaga game in 2024. Yes, I booed when we lost.
That was me when they called the hook and hold a foul on us.
That clip needs to be framed and played in relate when anyone thinks they can say “UK gets calls at Rupp”.