Hesitate to post but concerning trend in journalism. We’ve handed everything to podcasters and bloggers.
FC/OT: WaPo shuttering sports section….
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Tom Boswell as well. The Post had announced that they were not going to send any reporters to cover the Nationals at spring training so this doesn’t come as much of a surprise.
#propernounsmatter. Mike Wilbon? He’s been gone for at least ten years. I just checked: he left in 2010. I didn’t like him at all, he was second rate.
What is the point in reading a print paper anymore, anyway? The news is old when the paper reaches you, and you can get news "for free" online.
Years ago, I used to buy and read the Sunday paper. One week, I bought it, and was so busy that the paper still sat on my couch, where I'd left it, untouched, after a week. Beyond that, other than the ads and TV Guide (remember those?), I wasn't interested in the content of the paper. I haven't bought the paper since (this was in the 1990s), and haven't looked back.
The local paper (Atlanta Urinal-Constipation as it's been known colloquially) has (my understanding) recently stopped publishing a physical paper and has gone to a completely online presence, with a paywall. I think this will result in its death sooner rather than later. There are many TV stations in town that provide free web access to their news, and we now have an independent "all-news" station.
Some may lament this, but it's where we're at. The newspaper is going the way of the telegraph, buggy whips, and dinosaurs.
Years ago, I used to buy and read the Sunday paper. One week, I bought it, and was so busy that the paper still sat on my couch, where I'd left it, untouched, after a week. Beyond that, other than the ads and TV Guide (remember those?), I wasn't interested in the content of the paper. I haven't bought the paper since (this was in the 1990s), and haven't looked back.
The local paper (Atlanta Urinal-Constipation as it's been known colloquially) has (my understanding) recently stopped publishing a physical paper and has gone to a completely online presence, with a paywall. I think this will result in its death sooner rather than later. There are many TV stations in town that provide free web access to their news, and we now have an independent "all-news" station.
Some may lament this, but it's where we're at. The newspaper is going the way of the telegraph, buggy whips, and dinosaurs.
Washington Post sports section readers are shuddering over the news that the paper is shuttering the department.
I stopped reading it around 10-12 years ago, either nothing of substance or something that was ideologically driven. They used to have a GREAT HS sports section when I moved here in 2001. Always had reporters cover local HS events in many MD counties. Had a portal we could upload game stats and scores and if something caught their eye they would call the coach later that evening for a quote or two.
Eventually they stopped coming to events and then wouldn't even take scores anymore. They basically stopped writing about anything in MD outside of a state gov't item or something in PG or Montgomery county and completely focused on driving the agenda of NOVA.
Would be better if they shuttered the entire paper but this is a start.
Apparently the Post is also pink-slipping a whole host of divisions. Middle East, Urkraine, etc.
10 Replies. And no mention of Sally Jenkins. Surprising.
Jenkins, of course, was perhaps the most scathing pretend-to-be "serious" journalist in the fallout post-Sandusky (I don't consider that guy - Bernstein? - from Chicago as even pretending to be "serious")
Aside from a few past, and current, members of Penn State "leadership", no one may have been more obliviously, ignorantly, and piously scathing than Ms Jenkins.
Quote from Jenkins piece of that time:
- The Washington Post
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"Joe Paterno was a liar, there’s no doubt about that now. He was also a cover-up artist......"
"The public Paterno of the last few years was a work of fiction. In his place is a hubristic, indictable hypocrite....."
"If Paterno knew about ’98, then he wasn’t some aging granddad who was deceived, but a canny and unfeeling power broker who put protecting his reputation ahead of protecting children.
If he knew about ’98, then he understood the import of graduate assistant Mike McQueary’s distraught account in 2001 that he witnessed Sandusky assaulting a boy in the Penn State showers.
If he knew about ’98, then he also perjured himself before a grand jury.
Guilty....."
"Paterno didn’t always give lucid answers in his final interview conducted with the Washington Post three days before his death, but on this point he was categorical and clear as a bell. He pled total, lying ignorance of the ’98 investigation into a local mother’s claim Sandusky had groped her son in the shower at the football building. How could Paterno have no knowledge of this, I asked him?
“Nobody knew,” he said.
Everybody knew....."
"Paterno’s account of himself is flatly contradicted in damning detail by ex FBI-director Louis Freeh’s report....."
Jenkins, of course, was perhaps the most scathing pretend-to-be "serious" journalist in the fallout post-Sandusky (I don't consider that guy - Bernstein? - from Chicago as even pretending to be "serious")
Aside from a few past, and current, members of Penn State "leadership", no one may have been more obliviously, ignorantly, and piously scathing than Ms Jenkins.
Quote from Jenkins piece of that time:
- The Washington Post
Joe Paterno, at the end, showed more interest in his legacy than Sandusky’s victims
The exposure of Joe Paterno’s deceptions at Penn State call into question his legacy.
"Joe Paterno was a liar, there’s no doubt about that now. He was also a cover-up artist......"
"The public Paterno of the last few years was a work of fiction. In his place is a hubristic, indictable hypocrite....."
"If Paterno knew about ’98, then he wasn’t some aging granddad who was deceived, but a canny and unfeeling power broker who put protecting his reputation ahead of protecting children.
If he knew about ’98, then he understood the import of graduate assistant Mike McQueary’s distraught account in 2001 that he witnessed Sandusky assaulting a boy in the Penn State showers.
If he knew about ’98, then he also perjured himself before a grand jury.
Guilty....."
"Paterno didn’t always give lucid answers in his final interview conducted with the Washington Post three days before his death, but on this point he was categorical and clear as a bell. He pled total, lying ignorance of the ’98 investigation into a local mother’s claim Sandusky had groped her son in the shower at the football building. How could Paterno have no knowledge of this, I asked him?
“Nobody knew,” he said.
Everybody knew....."
"Paterno’s account of himself is flatly contradicted in damning detail by ex FBI-director Louis Freeh’s report....."
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Yeaaa you said it first, thank you.
What is a Sally Jenkins. Survived as a “sports writer” because of her father.10 Replies. And no mention of Sally Jenkins. Surprising.
Jenkins, of course, was perhaps the most scathing pretend-to-be "serious" journalist in the fallout post-Sandusky (I don't consider that guy - Bernstein? - from Chicago as even pretending to be "serious")
Aside from a few past, and current, members of Penn State "leadership", no one may have been more obliviously, ignorantly, and piously scathing than Ms Jenkins.
Quote from Jenkins piece of that time:
- The Washington Post
Joe Paterno, at the end, showed more interest in his legacy than Sandusky’s victims
The exposure of Joe Paterno’s deceptions at Penn State call into question his legacy.
"Joe Paterno was a liar, there’s no doubt about that now. He was also a cover-up artist......"
"The public Paterno of the last few years was a work of fiction. In his place is a hubristic, indictable hypocrite....."
"If Paterno knew about ’98, then he wasn’t some aging granddad who was deceived, but a canny and unfeeling power broker who put protecting his reputation ahead of protecting children.
If he knew about ’98, then he understood the import of graduate assistant Mike McQueary’s distraught account in 2001 that he witnessed Sandusky assaulting a boy in the Penn State showers.
If he knew about ’98, then he also perjured himself before a grand jury.
Guilty....."
"Paterno didn’t always give lucid answers in his final interview conducted with the Washington Post three days before his death, but on this point he was categorical and clear as a bell. He pled total, lying ignorance of the ’98 investigation into a local mother’s claim Sandusky had groped her son in the shower at the football building. How could Paterno have no knowledge of this, I asked him?
“Nobody knew,” he said.
Everybody knew....."
"Paterno’s account of himself is flatly contradicted in damning detail by ex FBI-director Louis Freeh’s report....."
I remember back when I lived in DC and hated the Redskins. It was glorious during the L’il Danny Snyder era as they failed in epic fashion again and again. When I knew I was leaving DC to move to Austin and leave my big law sweatshop behind, I had no more concern to bill hours - or look for work to keep my billings up. I’ve never felt more free in my professional life. The partners - including this massive **** of a female partner I worked for - could suck it. Once I hit my 5 years in practice, I could move to another jurisdiction without taking their Bar Exam. So for 6 weeks - between when I hit 5 years and planned to move - I was in quiet quit mode.
One of the great joys I took during those 6 weeks was to grab the sports sections of the Post and the Washington Times, take a 2 hour lunch at my favorite Persian food joint, and cackle at the Redskins. Good times!
One of the great joys I took during those 6 weeks was to grab the sports sections of the Post and the Washington Times, take a 2 hour lunch at my favorite Persian food joint, and cackle at the Redskins. Good times!
Didn't one of the posters on here 'win' a free lunch with Sally and then wrote about it on here?10 Replies. And no mention of Sally Jenkins. Surprising.
Jenkins, of course, was perhaps the most scathing pretend-to-be "serious" journalist in the fallout post-Sandusky (I don't consider that guy - Bernstein? - from Chicago as even pretending to be "serious")
Aside from a few past, and current, members of Penn State "leadership", no one may have been more obliviously, ignorantly, and piously scathing than Ms Jenkins.
Quote from Jenkins piece of that time:
- The Washington Post
Joe Paterno, at the end, showed more interest in his legacy than Sandusky’s victims
The exposure of Joe Paterno’s deceptions at Penn State call into question his legacy.
"Joe Paterno was a liar, there’s no doubt about that now. He was also a cover-up artist......"
"The public Paterno of the last few years was a work of fiction. In his place is a hubristic, indictable hypocrite....."
"If Paterno knew about ’98, then he wasn’t some aging granddad who was deceived, but a canny and unfeeling power broker who put protecting his reputation ahead of protecting children.
If he knew about ’98, then he understood the import of graduate assistant Mike McQueary’s distraught account in 2001 that he witnessed Sandusky assaulting a boy in the Penn State showers.
If he knew about ’98, then he also perjured himself before a grand jury.
Guilty....."
"Paterno didn’t always give lucid answers in his final interview conducted with the Washington Post three days before his death, but on this point he was categorical and clear as a bell. He pled total, lying ignorance of the ’98 investigation into a local mother’s claim Sandusky had groped her son in the shower at the football building. How could Paterno have no knowledge of this, I asked him?
“Nobody knew,” he said.
Everybody knew....."
"Paterno’s account of himself is flatly contradicted in damning detail by ex FBI-director Louis Freeh’s report....."
Oh ****, dude, they do any kind of kebabs right. Get some kebabs, rice, broiled tomatoes and their amazing bread and you’re set. Sprinkle the meat with sumac powder or dip in yogurt sauce. There’s a lot more, but that’s my go to. I don’t have a good place down in Austin, but I’d go all the time in DC. Miss it.
Here’s a kebab rundown:
7 types of Iranian kebab types (Persian Kabab)
Let’s explore some of the most popular types of Iranian kebab types. In this extended article, we’ll explore the art of Persian kabobs, from the sizzling grills to the vibrant dining tables.
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Growing up where I grew up, the radio and the newspaper were the only places to get sports scores. This was pre-ESPN days and I couldn't get cable where I lived even after the creation of ESPN. I used to love going to the mailbox and getting the paper in the morning to see if the Yankees won the night before!
On a somewhat related note . . . even as a kid I used to say that the Monday after the NCAA brackets were revealed had to be the day with the largest circulation of newspapers for the entire year. That was pre-internet, of course. Now, I doubt anyone gets their bracket out of the newspaper.
Incredible piece of fiction right there. Almost impressive in its total lack of facts.10 Replies. And no mention of Sally Jenkins. Surprising.
Jenkins, of course, was perhaps the most scathing pretend-to-be "serious" journalist in the fallout post-Sandusky (I don't consider that guy - Bernstein? - from Chicago as even pretending to be "serious")
Aside from a few past, and current, members of Penn State "leadership", no one may have been more obliviously, ignorantly, and piously scathing than Ms Jenkins.
Quote from Jenkins piece of that time:
- The Washington Post
Joe Paterno, at the end, showed more interest in his legacy than Sandusky’s victims
The exposure of Joe Paterno’s deceptions at Penn State call into question his legacy.
"Joe Paterno was a liar, there’s no doubt about that now. He was also a cover-up artist......"
"The public Paterno of the last few years was a work of fiction. In his place is a hubristic, indictable hypocrite....."
"If Paterno knew about ’98, then he wasn’t some aging granddad who was deceived, but a canny and unfeeling power broker who put protecting his reputation ahead of protecting children.
If he knew about ’98, then he understood the import of graduate assistant Mike McQueary’s distraught account in 2001 that he witnessed Sandusky assaulting a boy in the Penn State showers.
If he knew about ’98, then he also perjured himself before a grand jury.
Guilty....."
"Paterno didn’t always give lucid answers in his final interview conducted with the Washington Post three days before his death, but on this point he was categorical and clear as a bell. He pled total, lying ignorance of the ’98 investigation into a local mother’s claim Sandusky had groped her son in the shower at the football building. How could Paterno have no knowledge of this, I asked him?
“Nobody knew,” he said.
Everybody knew....."
"Paterno’s account of himself is flatly contradicted in damning detail by ex FBI-director Louis Freeh’s report....."
Need to change the thread title to 'shuttering sports and literally almost everything else sections....'.
Can't remember the last time I read a newspaper. I used to enjoy it. Then it became nothing but op-ed, true journalism died decades ago and reporters claimed to be non bias showed their colors in everything they wrote. Newspapers will be gone soon and very few will notice. New young generation has no idea what a newspaper is and how it was delivered to door or driveway. To them the newspaper will be like a rotary phone. Something on display in the Smithsonian.
And living near DC, you could be sure the Post was a propaganda machine, even in the sports articles. My least favorite sports writer, Heather Dinich. was an intern there before going to the CDT (where she claims Joe asked for her to have her credentials removed) before going to the Balt Sun and then ESPN. She rarely wrote fair articles even for HS sports
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Dinich was/ is a cheese ball, who employed "unique" investigative methods.
Yep like texting 16 YO HS boys to meet her at 11 pm to do an interview for a story she was doing
Sietsema took an earlier package and left the WaPo last October.
Not sure what you mean by the agenda of NOVA. Coverage of NOVA HS sports has been abysmal for a long time. They only seem to be interested in Paul VI.
I came close to convincing the sports editor last year to do an in-depth profile of the Cael Sanderson phenomenon at PSU. He agreed that it was a great story but claimed he didn't have the "resources" for it.
Bezos has done a great job of running the Post into the ground. Have lost hundereds of thousands of subscribers in the past year and a half.
Bezos has done a great job of running the Post into the ground. Have lost hundereds of thousands of subscribers in the past year and a half.
Put me in the camp that more news reporting is better. I don't need a fainting couch because a source like the Post may be slanted one way or the other politically. Just this morning one can read about a scientific shift on global warming, a story about a legal immigrant detained for a month for a $25.00 bad check, the growing relationship between India and Europe, what a cardiologist eats during his days, new trains for Amtrack, and FDA review, or lack thereof, for a new Flu vaccine. I listened to a former Post reporter this morning on a radio show and he revealed that newspaper purchased increased by 100,000 on days after a Commanders win. Retrospective reporting and articles addressing a wide spectrum of interests still has a place. Unfortunately, such sources of info are suffering.