Doug Shows lives in a very nice home but no roofing business.
Rick Barnes says it out loud. Woah.
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It is and I wish more coaches had the balls to say it. I think schools should hire guys to monitor that stuff. I know it’s heavily monitored now anyway and casinos hate losing money so they really look for it but it’s a tough thing to stop especially for good players who can hide it well.
I’ve thought the same thing. How do you constantly get down 20 by half and come back and win?
I still 100% belive Hunter Dickenson threw the Arkansas tourney game last season. Just mind boggling stupid decisions that looked intentional to me.
Did you not see where the two Major League Baseball pitchers were intentionally throwing balls at certain times during games for $7500 a piece?
I tuned into the Tulane vs Memphis game today for literally 30 seconds. During that time Doug Shows called a technical. lol
Look at billionaires who hoard everything in the world these days. Always trying to make more money. It’s never enough.
That was so crazy to me dude. Like a couple million dollar deal gone and prison to make that chump change.
This - I thought that whole second half he was on the take...
Coaches also. Don’t let him fool you. I’ve always said Cal was throwing games his last few years here.
Reed and Rob coming off the bench behind a guy who now two years later sits the bench.
Reed and Rob coming off the bench behind a guy who now two years later sits the bench.
The problem with that theory is that they would have to be good enough to beat people bad in a 20 minute span at will.
They are not that good. Also, they were unable to mount a comeback at all against Gonzaga, MSU, 'bama, or Vandy.
Maybe that’s why we look so bad? Maybe they are as good as the preseason ranking
.Gambling should be illegal top to Bottom including lottery tickets. Anybody that says otherwise has not done the Dance with the Devil.
Sooner or later My Americans, we are gonna have to lockdown greed, gambling, Supply Side, and Economic Royalists..... AGAIN.
This time, it'll be for good.
You think your hiding Royalists huh?
FDR always sees you and he told Artificial Intelligence all about you and artificial intelligence has a big mouth and lots of wisdom.
The greed and the gambling is on borrowed time.
Lady Liberty is waking up. She is one mad b....h!
Sooner or later My Americans, we are gonna have to lockdown greed, gambling, Supply Side, and Economic Royalists..... AGAIN.
This time, it'll be for good.
You think your hiding Royalists huh?
FDR always sees you and he told Artificial Intelligence all about you and artificial intelligence has a big mouth and lots of wisdom.
The greed and the gambling is on borrowed time.
Lady Liberty is waking up. She is one mad b....h!
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His overall game was awesome. Just because somebody misses some free throws doesn't mean there is something fishy going on.
Yes it's easy to spot, but it's not a crime to bet and win big $$ on college sports. Where these dummies went wrong was leaving an electronic trail (email/phone/texts) that enabled to feds to nab them rather easily. You'd have to find a way to avoid trackable conversations with the players.
Calipari in the opinion of many has and will throw games. I’ve always said I believe he was losing intentionally so the boosters gave in to his demands. Calipari didn’t lose to teams like St. Peter’s and Oakland in tournaments sorry. Just doesn’t do it. He wanted that leverage, to me it was give me what I want or we’ll just go out here and suck.
And of course one that few debate around the Memphis program was his sweet 16 game against Missouri his last year at Memphis. Did things that were just bizarre. He was likely leaving Memphis with a parting gift. Then he took everything incuding the university secretary and a sno cone machine that didn’t belong to him. He wiped that place out
That Sno Cone machine is notorious. Didn’t belong to him, as asked to return it, and never let that thing go.
I got hooked at the end of the game he’s talking about.
Unfortunately you can’t help but wonder.
Unfortunately you can’t help but wonder.
What have I stumbled onto lol?Gambling should be illegal top to Bottom including lottery tickets. Anybody that says otherwise has not done the Dance with the Devil.
Sooner or later My Americans, we are gonna have to lockdown greed, gambling, Supply Side, and Economic Royalists..... AGAIN.
This time, it'll be for good.
You think your hiding Royalists huh?
FDR always sees you and he told Artificial Intelligence all about you and artificial intelligence has a big mouth and lots of wisdom.
The greed and the gambling is on borrowed time.
Lady Liberty is waking up. She is one mad b....h!
Back when bets used to be win/lose or margin of victory, it was hard enough to know if guys where guilty. Now, you can bet on just about anything, making it very, very easy for players to do things that are not going to cause their team to lose, or risk losing, but still fulfill a prop bet. And they don't have to risk making the bet themselves, they can have friends or family do it for them. Hey, Uncle Ted, I have a feeling I am going to foul out this next game. Just a hunch.
idk...i don't think he would say that publicly if he really thought his guys were gambling.
exactly. it's not moneyline or even spread bets...it's the prop bets that ruin all the fun.
IDK, once you reach a certain age/point in your career, you may lose your filter, or don't care what people think anymore, or about consequences for you personally. I could see Barnes being at that point in his career/life.
It’s been said already. I don’t think it’s necessary to splatter it around any more. It’s been said by a few and you’d probably be able to guess who it is by the play.
And again not accusing him, have no proof. Could be wrong so it’s just something I’ve noticed around his play, seems abnormal.
no way, 0% chance Calipari would do that,
Nah man there’s no way he didn’t say that intentional. He didn’t even back away from it, kept giving reasons why he thinks it lol. Barnes is old and media savvy as they come, he wouldn’t say anything close to that unless he wanted to. It wasn’t a slip up you can tell how he finished it he was legit saying it. Blew my mind.
And Tennessee fans have been saying for a very long time Gillispie seems to be gambling. They said it during our game too. It’s all over X and their boards.
My guess is Barnes believes it might be happening and he’s saying it to shine a light on it in hopes if he is doing it, Gillispie will stop. But this was definitely intentional.
100% I also think this is an indicator Barnes is done. Could easily hurt him recruiting too, what player wants to play for a guy that might call him out for gambling to the media?
Barnes is done and he doesn’t give a sht, he’s not getting back to the final four, he missed his window, and he’s throwing it out there to see if it is happening get it to stop. Might as well, this is it for him anyway, might as well get them playing as good as can if they are gambling.
And look it’s Tennessee. They are by far the nastiest ****** in all of college sports. If anyone is gambling it’s them.
that just blurred out S k a n k s?
Some one who works for on3 made sure it would catch that word?
I hate gambling and will hate it even more if it ruins the one sport I care about. **** is detrimental to society and we let greedy politicians cash in and sell us all out for what?
Dude....this is scary because I texted a good friend of mine during the game about this very thing. I said "he's gotta be shaving". The front end of the free throws was definitely eye-opening. But if you'll recall, late in the game, like very close to the end, he got switched and basically "acted" like he got lost and the guy he was supposed to be guarding went in for a completely uncontested finger roll at the front of the rim. I mean he didn't even attempt to challenge. Would be exactly what it would look like to let someone score without trying to make it look like that. I get it, the counter to that is we were up by enough that you don't want to risk fouling and it being an and-1, but we were actually up like 8 at the time, it wouldn't have made a difference. This REALLY REALLY stood out to me to the point I was checking lines and trying to figure out what range he might have been trying to keep it close. Felt like 6 was the number, but we were 6.5 point dogs, so wouldn't make sense
This article entitled “Cashing all day’: The Instagram star accused of corrupting NCAA hoops” is insightful
An excerpt,
“GETTING AN ILLICIT EDGE in NBA betting means persuading one of 450 multimillionaire athletes to risk their livelihoods. College basketball, on the other hand, offers thousands more players who have much less to lose.
To recruit players, prosecutors say, Fairley worked with Blakeney and Jalen Smith, a basketball coach who trained players preparing for the NBA draft….
The recruiters reached out to players on social media or through mutual connections in the basketball community. They offered players $10,000 or more to ensure their team lost by more than expected and failed to cover the first-half or full-game ‘spread’ set by oddsmakers….
The bets rolled in: $100,000 wagered against Nicholls State, $140,000 against Tulane, $150,000 against New Orleans, $242,000 against Saint Louis, $458,000 against North Carolina A&T.
‘Too easy,’ a Robert Morris player texted Smith after a game on which the bettors had wagered $256,000. ‘Might as well do the next one too.’…”
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www.washingtonpost.com
An excerpt,
“GETTING AN ILLICIT EDGE in NBA betting means persuading one of 450 multimillionaire athletes to risk their livelihoods. College basketball, on the other hand, offers thousands more players who have much less to lose.
To recruit players, prosecutors say, Fairley worked with Blakeney and Jalen Smith, a basketball coach who trained players preparing for the NBA draft….
The recruiters reached out to players on social media or through mutual connections in the basketball community. They offered players $10,000 or more to ensure their team lost by more than expected and failed to cover the first-half or full-game ‘spread’ set by oddsmakers….
The bets rolled in: $100,000 wagered against Nicholls State, $140,000 against Tulane, $150,000 against New Orleans, $242,000 against Saint Louis, $458,000 against North Carolina A&T.
‘Too easy,’ a Robert Morris player texted Smith after a game on which the bettors had wagered $256,000. ‘Might as well do the next one too.’…”
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You guys don't know what you're talking about. Barnes did say that but immediately said that he shouldn't have said that . AND that that he hope they wouldn't print what he said , as well as said that he knew his players were not doing it ( throwing points/ games) but that it seemed the way they were lackkaidasical and careless in their play. Lastly, being a Vol fan and being on Volquest everyday, I have not seen one thread about our players throwing the ky game. Yes, there x were some threads about stupid turnovers and such but not throwing points or games, as some on here have suggested.
@lturnervols21 I’d encourage you to read the entire Thread; isn’t completely about UT. UK fans do appreciate Coach Barnes bringing up a touchy subject—even if diffused with humor—that frequently piques our interest….