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Holloway: National COY?
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Correct. Fred Hoiberg might have something to say about it, as well as Dusty May A d the guy at Arizona — Lloyd? And Danny Hurley isn’t exactly on the outside looking in. But if Seton Hall winds up doing anything of significance, like a Sweet Sixteen, then Holloway will be a consideration.
I don’t need to see those links to know what I've seen. McDermott is a sensational coach, and his offenses are magnificent. I won’t say I’ve never watched his teams and thought that it would be nice to see our team move the ball that way.
But there is more than one way to skin a cat. I’ve also never seen Creighton play this kind of hellacious defense, even in years when it’s been very good. We’re winning and they’re (Creighton) are winning and I think both teams are going to be factors in March to some degree.
We have much better shooters this year than anytime year he has been here, and much better depth. Sha has said we are not playing well offensively. I'm sure he has made an emphasis on improving this, and will continue to do so.
At times, we have run some good looking offensive sets, but agree the defense is much better. Can't have everything at once, wish we could. Foul shooting and offensive rebounding is good. Our block and steal percentage & effective field goal defense elite.
At times, we have run some good looking offensive sets, but agree the defense is much better. Can't have everything at once, wish we could. Foul shooting and offensive rebounding is good. Our block and steal percentage & effective field goal defense elite.
I'm just so happy, where we stand, at this time of the year.
Exactly … and it’s absolutely entirely possible that tonight’s game doesn’t go well. But to this point, only a knucklehead could complain.
Exactly. it is remarkable. How we got here? idgas, we're here.
Rent free would constitute I think about you. I’m simply using your own words you’ve stated time and time again (and again and again)
And since November there aren’t that many (negative) posters on here
since SHU has only lost twice. Kinda easy to see when you post. It’s also easy to post what metrics prognosticate and then wait for a team to fail. You’re in the vast majority that aren’t SHU fans. You’re not going out on a limb.
I’m not saying SHU is destined to be a final four team, but to deny what they’ve done so far is just looking at numbers and not watching games.
All I was really saying in my post is why don’t you just wait until March to tell everyone you told them how SHU was going to fail and how bad Sha is? Seems logical to me.
Rent free would constitute I think about you. I’m simply using your own words you’ve stated time and time again (and again and again)
And since November there aren’t that many (negative) posters on here
It’s also easy to post what metrics prognosticate and then wait for a team to fail. You’re in the vast majority that aren’t SHU fans. You’re not going out on a limb.
I’m not saying SHU is destined to be a final four team, but to deny what they’ve done so far is just looking at numbers and not watching games.
All I was really saying in my post is why don’t you just wait until March to tell everyone you told them how SHU was going to fail and how bad Sha is? Seems logical to me.
Given that you always post about me, or in reply to me, it's clear you're thinking about me. As to your last statement of the post above, I'm just warning you that this might be as good as it gets right now. I'm not a fan boy who gets super excited or super down. I look at data, metrics, etc. and form my views based on what I see. And as far as Sha? We saw what he did last year. It was eye-opening. He's 0-for-3 in NCAA bids at SH - pretty bad if you ask me. Let's see if that changes in two months.
They're having a decent season so far. Still very light on quality wins. If they were to somehow win on Tuesday, that would probably change my mind.
Didn’t you recently admit that you haven’t been watching the games? I was so out on Sha. He has proven me and a few others here so wrong and I will never speak ill of him ever again.
Admittedly, and it was before my time on this board, but I was so out on Willard and when he turned it around, I never doubted him again. It’s a good thing I don’t run the program. But why not admit that something special is happening here right now? To say otherwise is clearly agenda driven and false.
Agree with SPK. He’s the favorite now for BE COY, but shouldn’t be in the running for national coach of the year
At least that is what you and some of the other posters who have forgotten how to post since late November hope.
No it wouldn't.
There's nothing special happening here. It's simply a good season so far, nothing more. Special would be winning the conference and making the Sweet 16.
Please point out where I'm factually wrong. I'll wait. Just so we're clear, Grand Canyon has now moved to #90 as I'm writing this. So three teams in the top 90, two in the top 89, have worse offenses (Cincinnati & Memphis).
is it vaguely possible for you to just enjoy today’s win and our 14-2 record? Or is it absolutely required that you just continue this self-indulgent stream of BS?
I love what I’m seeing, and would never ever underestimate our coach. This is a guy who is a fierce competitor. PJ’s teams centered on defense early in the year and then jelled at both ends of the floor come March. Defense travels line is playing out right now. You beat better teams getting up close and physical, like a boxing match you need to be close to score punches. It’s too early for Coach of the year but dam give him credit for the kids he’s assembled, right now he looks like a master recruiter.
Something special coming on Tuesday
Seton Hall turns it's opponents over or blocks 20% 20% of its opponents possessions. And a healthy percentage of those are converted to SHU points.
Seton Hall generally makes more free throws than it's opponent attempts. That was always a PJ staple.
Seton Hall also takes 7 more FG attempts than it's opponents.
All of that adds up and makes up for less fluid offense and shooting.
If you have to wait until mid March to decide if this is a special season, you are missing or downgrading a really good season so far.
Coming off an embarrassingly awful season, restocking with supposed nobodies, picked to finish last - last by a mile. (And no one here was surprised or outraged.)
And now we are 14-2.
No awards are given out now. But the guy responsible for that turnaround has, so far, done something remarkable.
And now we are 14-2.
No awards are given out now. But the guy responsible for that turnaround has, so far, done something remarkable.
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Some people are glass half full guys others not so much. After seriously considering not renewing my seats this past offseason I’m certainly glad I renewed. The excitement this team has provided this year has been well worth the investment. Can’t say this team isn’t entertaining. Go Hall
a coaching taking this set of players to top 3 if he big east is a big deal. sorry. they were picked dead last. on paper this is a collection of bad players from bad teams in bad conferences.
Sha has them into an ncaa bid if the season ended today. that's all coach. sorry.
All of that is already factored in to the offensive efficiency rating.
I’m with shu09 in the sense that Shaheen and Willard’s style of basketball is not for me. I’d never watch SHU if I wasn’t a fan.
But I am a fan and at some point during the Willard years, it started to become fun watching kids that played harder than everyone else. It was never pretty, but the effort grew on me.
This current team has been awesome to watch.
But I am a fan and at some point during the Willard years, it started to become fun watching kids that played harder than everyone else. It was never pretty, but the effort grew on me.
This current team has been awesome to watch.
I think for Shaheen to get serious consideration for either COY, Hall has to get into the NCAA tournament. Realistically,
would 12-8 in this BE and 22-9 get us in? Do we have to get one or more wins vs. UCONN, St. John's, at Creighton and Villanova and avoid more than one loss to a bottom-half team?
would 12-8 in this BE and 22-9 get us in? Do we have to get one or more wins vs. UCONN, St. John's, at Creighton and Villanova and avoid more than one loss to a bottom-half team?
22-9 gets Seton Hall in and gets Sha zero consideration for National COY,
I think a leap from expectations is considered a fair amount. Mike Anderson won it in 21 after SJU was picked towards the bottom of the league but finished 4th. We didn't have a dominant team at the top though, so I think we need a few teams to beat UConn for anyone other than Hurley to really be considered.
If the season ended today, I'd give it to Shaheen. If UConn finishes 18-2 or better, they will be top 5 in the country at the end of the year. That's going to just be too dominant of a year to overcome in my opinion. If they ended up with a few losses and we end up being 2-3 games back of them, I'd think it will be Sha.
if they are #1 in the nation and we are at the top of the league, like too 4 and a tourney team, i think Sha wins easily. And, if we are a tourney team, i wont mind being wrong