Needed change regarding players/draft/NCAA/NBA

[JonathanW_rivals]

It's not whether it should be OAD, or 2andDone, or straight out of HS. Those are all debatable. I don't think this one is.

It is to for the NCAA to allow players to return/join a school after either not being drafted (i.e. R.Morris), OR even if they were drafted and simply don't like how late they were taken or the team that drafted them. There is no reason not to let them come back, as long as they do so before the first day of fall classes. And this is really the only negotiation leverage the NCAA has with the NBA. Because teams like not having that as a risk.
Add that rule, and Teague probably returns in 2013 making that team much better, especially if Noel doesn't get hurt. There may have been others that might have returned over the past 9 years.

 

[bthaunert]

No way the NBA is going to agree to letting a team draft a kid, and the kid then decides he doesn't want to play for said team, and poof he's gone. No way.

 

[Rideordiewildcat]

What needs to change is a lot, but one obvious rule that needs to change is when a coach leaves to take another job or is fired his players shouldn't have to sit out a year if they want to go somewhere else. They signed up for a particular coach and that's the reason you hear as the main reason why players pick the schools they do. So when that coach is gone the players shouldn't be stuck or penalized.

 

[chroix]

This idea is not as well thought out as you might think OP.

 

[BigBlueEric]

No way the NBA is going to agree to letting a team draft a kid, and the kid then decides he doesn't want to play for said team, and poof he's gone. No way.

Doesn’t really matter if they agree or not. The NCAA is the one that makes that an eligibility killer. If the NCAA allows them to do it without losing eligibility, the NBA can go F themselves. Now having said that, I agree with you, no way it happens.

 

[BigBlueNole_rivals168901]

No way the NBA is going to agree to letting a team draft a kid, and the kid then decides he doesn't want to play for said team, and poof he's gone. No way.

The NBA has no say in whether teh NCAA lets them retain eligibility. they are not required to sign with any team that drafts them.

 

[zannmann]

The team who drafts them owns the rights to them.

 

[bthaunert]

Doesn’t really matter if they agree or not. The NCAA is the one that makes that an eligibility killer. If the NCAA allows them to do it without losing eligibility, the NBA can go F themselves. Now having said that, I agree with you, no way it happens.

It doesn't work that way. The NCAA can make any rule it wants, but the NBA doesn't have to follow it. The NBA has their own rules around being drafted, teams keeping your rights, etc.

 

[BigBlueEric]

The team who drafts them owns the rights to them.

Correct. I was just stating they have zero control over whether the NCAA allows them to return to college. But, like I said before, not happening.

 

[BigBlueEric]

It doesn't work that way. The NCAA can make any rule it wants, but the NBA doesn't have to follow it. The NBA has their own rules around being drafted, teams keeping your rights, etc.

Right. See above.

 

[BigBlueEric]

They do have to follow it in as far as if the ncaa allows the kid to go back to say, UK, the Boston Celtics cannot deny it.

 

[melvinm]

The issue is that many who declare for the draft, sign or accept $$$ from an agent. Ergo, bye bye eligibility.

 

[bthaunert]

They do have to follow it in as far as if the ncaa allows the kid to go back to say, UK, the Boston Celtics cannot deny it.

If the NCAA made a rule, of course they can't deny it, but it just doesn't make any sense. The kid cannot just re-enter the draft and in fact would be losing money by going back to school. He can't improve his draft status. Let's say the NCAA decided to make the rule the OP was talking about and Tyler Herro entered the draft this year and decided to come back to school because he didn't like who drafted him. That team keeps his rights until 2023. It literally doesn't make any sense.

 

[fabcat]

The team who drafts them owns the rights to them.

As they did with Larry Bird. The Celtics drafted him and owned the rights to him. They waited until he finished college. Not sure if they changed the rule after 78-79 or not.

 

[wildcatsboston1984_rivals]

It's not whether it should be OAD, or 2andDone, or straight out of HS. Those are all debatable. I don't think this one is.

It is to for the NCAA to allow players to return/join a school after either not being drafted (i.e. R.Morris), OR even if they were drafted and simply don't like how late they were taken or the team that drafted them. There is no reason not to let them come back, as long as they do so before the first day of fall classes. And this is really the only negotiation leverage the NCAA has with the NBA. Because teams like not having that as a risk.
Add that rule, and Teague probably returns in 2013 making that team much better, especially if Noel doesn't get hurt. There may have been others that might have returned over the past 9 years.

NBA teams maintain the draft rights to players they draft as long as they offer them a Required Tender so the player has to play for them if they want to play in the NBA or force a trade. The player doesn't even have to sign the tender, as long as an NBA team offers it they have their draft rights.

For seniors, the NBA team maintains their draft rights for a full calendar year.

For early entry players, the NBA team maintains their rights until one year after they would have been eligible to enter the draft as a non-early entry. So if Zion got drafted by the Cavs, decided he didn't want to play for the Cavs, the Cavs would have his draft rights until 2023. 2022 would be the year where he would be entering the draft as a senior + add on an additional draft rights year to get 2023.

So Zion, assuming the Cavs offered him a Required Tender which they would be insane not to, wouldn't be able to even sign a contract in the NBA (and probably not the G League either) up through 2023 unless he signed with Cleveland.

So even if them being able to come back was possible, they would still be stuck with the team that drafted them and stuck with where they were picked.

 

[ubtrapper_rivals103836]

It's not whether it should be OAD, or 2andDone, or straight out of HS. Those are all debatable. I don't think this one is.

It is to for the NCAA to allow players to return/join a school after either not being drafted (i.e. R.Morris), OR even if they were drafted and simply don't like how late they were taken or the team that drafted them. There is no reason not to let them come back, as long as they do so before the first day of fall classes. And this is really the only negotiation leverage the NCAA has with the NBA. Because teams like not having that as a risk.
Add that rule, and Teague probably returns in 2013 making that team much better, especially if Noel doesn't get hurt. There may have been others that might have returned over the past 9 years.

That's why they have the combine. The kids get evaluated and if they don't get good feedback they shouldn't be going. But if they go anyway, they shouldn't be able to come back IMO.

 

[TBCat]

A better solution is to let them get drafted and sign with a team. If they are ready to make roster then they can go. If not then let them play college ball while accepting an NBA paycheck.