First and goal Duke...

[struggler]

should have been the call at the end of the UCF game after Zion lowers the shoulder (again and again) and plows over 2 defenders (Tacko well within the restricted area).

Crying over spilled milk now, I know, but no one on UCFs team or staff left that game a virgin cause they ALL got SCREWED.

Then the well planned hook and hold/push in the back was executed (and not called) to perfection.Inexcusable.

Sick of the crap. Zion is a freak - yes - highlight reel - yes - but bull on the floor - yes. If only PJ and Keldon could get similar calls... DAMN.

 

[struggler]

PS Tre Jones cannot shoot and that got exposed as well...

 

[BlueBlood66_rivals34314]

PS Tre Jones cannot shoot and that got exposed as well...

Has no one watched Duke or looked at any stats before yesterday?

 

[Fitch44]

If no one on UCF bench saw it, why the hell didn’t the UCF player tell
The ref that DeLaurier did a hook and hold so they could review it.
Would have been two shots to take the lead.
And they would have had the ball.
Crazy the luck puke has.
The no call on Zion Spin is what stands out as refs wanting puke to win. He ran him over and extended his arm. Easy call.
Either that was their one scare and they roll to the title or they have some bad karma coming their way in one of these next games.

 

[Shaudylo]

If no one on UCF bench saw it, why the hell didn’t the UCF player tell
The ref that DeLaurier did a hook and hold so they could review it.

They can’t review that

 

[Calsthebomb]

Has no one watched Duke or looked at any stats before yesterday?

Yeah they made 10 threes yesterday. 10/25 pretty efficient.

 

[Ugoff]

Some here will tell you that UCF deserved that screw job because Taylor missed a shot in the first half. They brought it on themselves and were just asking for it.

 

[STUCKNBIG10]

They can’t review that

Yes, they can. They've done it all year.

 

[Ugoff]

Yes, they can. They've done it all year.

No kidding. I think I've aged 5 years watching "hook and hold" reviews this season.

 

[docholiday51]

The thing that gets to me the most about yesterday is that it wasn't just one call but a series of calls that allowed Duke to win.
(1) Zion runs over the guard just inside the foul line,that was a call of some kind but was ignored.

(2 Tako was in the restricted area but off the floor(some announcers say that makes a difference) Zion initiated the contact.The only thing out of the officials control was that the ball happened to go in

(3) On the missed free throw the officials missed not one but two fouls on Duke which allowed a 4 point play

All this to ask 2 questions (1) how does all this work,is it premeditated?No one could anticipate the exact end game scenario but the officials seem to know when to take over a game.If Duke is up by 10 they play it straight, if they need help they get it

(2) When and from whom do the officials get their instructions?

 

[Shaudylo]

Yes, they can. They've done it all year.

Welp Guess I’m wrong

 

[TFCat11]

(2) When and from whom do the officials get their instructions?

Ultimately, TPTB, that control the $Money$ being wagered .

 

[59coop]

They can’t review that

You must be thinking of goal tending.

 

[docholiday51]

You must be thinking of goal tending.

If it helps Duke they can review how the other team walks into the arena,but if a duke player pulled a gun and shot 3 opposing players it wouldn't be reviewable

 

[JC CATS]

should have been the call at the end of the UCF game after Zion lowers the shoulder (again and again) and plows over 2 defenders (Tacko well within the restricted area).

Crying over spilled milk now, I know, but no one on UCFs team or staff left that game a virgin cause they ALL got SCREWED.

Then the well planned hook and hold/push in the back was executed (and not called) to perfection.Inexcusable.

Sick of the crap. Zion is a freak - yes - highlight reel - yes - but bull on the floor - yes. If only PJ and Keldon could get similar calls... DAMN.

Should have been a TD that was a good stiff arm Zion threw

 

[JC CATS]

The thing that gets to me the most about yesterday is that it wasn't just one call but a series of calls that allowed Duke to win.
(1) Zion runs over the guard just inside the foul line,that was a call of some kind but was ignored.

(2 Tako was in the restricted area but off the floor(some announcers say that makes a difference) Zion initiated the contact.The only thing out of the officials control was that the ball happened to go in

(3) On the missed free throw the officials missed not one but two fouls on Duke which allowed a 4 point play

All this to ask 2 questions (1) how does all this work,is it premeditated?No one could anticipate the exact end game scenario but the officials seem to know when to take over a game.If Duke is up by 10 they play it straight, if they need help they get it

(2) When and from whom do the officials get their instructions?

#1 - you don't understand the rules, Zion gets all the calls

 

[JAC71]

Zion has been bulldozing players all season long and they didn't call him on it then they sure as hell won't now. Great player no doubt but most definitely gets the Lebron James treatment.

 

[Cats_2010]

The thing that gets to me the most about yesterday is that it wasn't just one call but a series of calls that allowed Duke to win.
(1) Zion runs over the guard just inside the foul line,that was a call of some kind but was ignored.

(2 Tako was in the restricted area but off the floor(some announcers say that makes a difference) Zion initiated the contact.The only thing out of the officials control was that the ball happened to go in

(3) On the missed free throw the officials missed not one but two fouls on Duke which allowed a 4 point play

All this to ask 2 questions (1) how does all this work,is it premeditated?No one could anticipate the exact end game scenario but the officials seem to know when to take over a game.If Duke is up by 10 they play it straight, if they need help they get it

(2) When and from whom do the officials get their instructions?

Definitely a missed charge call on Zion but I didn’t see a missed call on tacko. He left his feet and extended his arms outward not straight up to contest the shot and he barely got off the floor. No issue with the foul call there at all. Absolutely correct however on the two missed calls on the missed free throw. The push in the back is called 10 times out of 10 there. The player left his feet to grab the board and ends up well underneath the basket and there is only one way for that to happen.

For the hook and hold, yes if it was missed which many of them are the player should have indeed said something but seems like it needed to have been a dead ball for that to happen. I believe it was inbounded and taken to half court before a timeout was called and thus don’t think it can then be reviewed. Had they called a timeout immediately I think it could have then be reviewed but not entirely certain.

 

[docholiday51]

#1 - you don't understand the rules, Zion gets all the calls

I know it is nearly impossible to believe but this is bigger than Zion Zion was only a spectator to what went on in the lane after his missed free throw.The kind of help Duke got yesterday is off the charts even for them.

 

[docholiday51]

Definitely a missed charge call on Zion but I didn’t see a missed call on tacko. He left his feet and extended his arms outward not straight up to contest the shot and he barely got off the floor. No issue with the foul call there at all. Absolutely correct however on the two missed calls on the missed free throw. The push in the back is called 10 times out of 10 there. The player left his feet to grab the board and ends up well underneath the basket and there is only one way for that to happen.

For the hook and hold, yes if it was missed which many of them are the player should have indeed said something but seems like it needed to have been a dead ball for that to happen. I believe it was inbounded and taken to half court before a timeout was called and thus don’t think it can then be reviewed. Had they called a timeout immediately I think it could have then be reviewed but not entirely certain.

I don't disagree on the Tacko call but it should never have happened,the first missed call had to be something other than a no call.The 2 no calls on the rebound leave little doubt that the fix was in,Duke wasn't going to be allowed to lose.

 

[BlueBlood66_rivals34314]

I don't disagree on the Tacko call but it should never have happened,the first missed call had to be something other than a no call.The 2 no calls on the rebound leave little doubt that the fix was in,Duke wasn't going to be allowed to lose.

Weren’t going to be allowed to lose? They were down four with 15 seconds left. If Duke just jacks up a three and miss like Zion did 20 seconds earlier then they lose. If the refs wanted to really fix the game they just say shot clock violation with two minutes left. Would have been an easy call to overturn. Or why call the foul on Zion with 45 seconds left and Duke losing if they’re trying to fix the game?

 

[docholiday51]

Weren’t going to be allowed to lose? They were down four with 15 seconds left. If Duke just jacks up a three and miss like Zion did 20 seconds earlier then they lose. If the refs wanted to really fix the game they just say shot clock violation with two minutes left. Would have been an easy call to overturn. Or why call the foul on Zion with 45 seconds left and Duke losing if they’re trying to fix the game?

Were any of the calls you refer to as blatantly wrong as the three that decided the game?

 

[Rideordiewildcat]

One analyst said yesterday, what we learned from the UCF game. That Zion is amazing, but Dook without Zion is not really that good. Duh, I think everyone knew that by now after watching Wake almost beat them without him.

 

[BlueBlood66_rivals34314]

Were any of the calls you refer to as blatantly wrong as the three that decided the game?

The shot clock violation was about as blatant as you can get. The shot from above the backboard showed it didn’t hit the rim as clear as day.

Also the person I was responding to said “Duke wasn’t going to be allowed to lose” when Duke could have very easily lost that game even with the refs supposedly swallowing their whistle.

 

[Duke Bluu]

Tacko should have fouled out well before that last one. It was an egregious foul on Zion at that. It was clear. Of course nobody talks about that because it doesn’t fit the narrative. As it should be because this is a UK board. So I have to do it.

 

[Swimcat76]

I've hated Duke before but not like now. We've got to make to the final 4. We've got beat those ba$tard$ and set thing right again.

 

[Blueaz]

The thing that gets to me the most about yesterday is that it wasn't just one call but a series of calls that allowed Duke to win.
(1) Zion runs over the guard just inside the foul line,that was a call of some kind but was ignored.

(2 Tako was in the restricted area but off the floor(some announcers say that makes a difference) Zion initiated the contact.The only thing out of the officials control was that the ball happened to go in

(3) On the missed free throw the officials missed not one but two fouls on Duke which allowed a 4 point play

All this to ask 2 questions (1) how does all this work,is it premeditated?No one could anticipate the exact end game scenario but the officials seem to know when to take over a game.If Duke is up by 10 they play it straight, if they need help they get it

(2) When and from whom do the officials get their instructions?

I think, with all the backlash; this could help us. Seth Greenburg was adamant those refs should be done for the tourney.
If, If NCAA does that and puts the other refs on notice, they may get scared enough to call it straight the rest of the way.

 

[docholiday51]

The shot clock violation was about as blatant as you can get. The shot from above the backboard showed it didn’t hit the rim as clear as day.

Also the person I was responding to said “Duke wasn’t going to be allowed to lose” when Duke could have very easily lost that game even with the refs supposedly swallowing their whistle.

You were responding to my post, the only ones who didn't see the Duke bias yesterday and who don't see it on a regular basis are those who make a concerted effort not to see it

 

[docholiday51]

Tacko should have fouled out well before that last one. It was an egregious foul on Zion at that. It was clear. Of course nobody talks about that because it doesn’t fit the narrative. As it should be because this is a UK board. So I have to do it.

Duke could have every close call possible go against them for the next 5 years and it wouldn't even the score for the favorable calls they have gotten in the past.I would be embarrassed to be a Duke fan

 

[BlueBlood66_rivals34314]

You were responding to my post, the only ones who didn't see the Duke bias yesterday and who don't see it on a regular basis are those who make a concerted effort not to see it

But you can clearly see that saying they weren’t going to allow Duke to lose is ridiculous when you watch the second half of that game. If that were really true there were plenty of times the refs could have stopped UCF runs or called obvious fouls on Tacko that they ignored.

 

[TFCat11]

But you can clearly see that saying they weren’t going to allow Duke to lose is ridiculous when you watch the second half of that game. If that were really true there were plenty of times the refs could have stopped UCF runs or called obvious fouls on Tacko that they ignored.

Agreed! But instead, just ignore the obvious fouls on T. Jones, RJ, and the Blue Devil Bull.
The lipstick on the pig was calling fouls on Reddish, so they don’t make it too obvious lol. FAIL!

 

[docholiday51]

But you can clearly see that saying they weren’t going to allow Duke to lose is ridiculous when you watch the second half of that game. If that were really true there were plenty of times the refs could have stopped UCF runs or called obvious fouls on Tacko that they ignored.

But Duke didn't lose and the reason they didn't was either the officials were incompetent or crooked,take your pick.If you choose the former than Duke has had incompetent officials for years.

 

[CastleRubric]

Has no one watched Duke or looked at any stats before yesterday?

Has Kentucky played Georgetown since that 1984 final four “event”?

 

[TFCat11]

But Duke didn't lose and the reason they didn't was either the officials were incompetent or crooked,take your pick.If you choose the former than Duke has had incompetent officials for years.

Doc, there’s nothing “incompetent” about the Refs, quite the contrary. Carefully selected, make no mistake.

 

[ORCAT10]

The thing that gets to me the most about yesterday is that it wasn't just one call but a series of calls that allowed Duke to win.
(1) Zion runs over the guard just inside the foul line,that was a call of some kind but was ignored.

(2 Tako was in the restricted area but off the floor(some announcers say that makes a difference) Zion initiated the contact.The only thing out of the officials control was that the ball happened to go in

(3) On the missed free throw the officials missed not one but two fouls on Duke which allowed a 4 point play

All this to ask 2 questions (1) how does all this work,is it premeditated?No one could anticipate the exact end game scenario but the officials seem to know when to take over a game.If Duke is up by 10 they play it straight, if they need help they get it

(2) When and from whom do the officials get their instructions?

And why does tv NEVER show any repay that might expose favoritism towards Duke. If PJ or RT lowered their shoulder, like Zion did, and there was no call, replay and the talking heads would have hammered a questionable no call relentlessly. TV never questions calls in duke's favor.

 

[BlueBlood66_rivals34314]

But Duke didn't lose and the reason they didn't was either the officials were incompetent or crooked,take your pick.If you choose the former than Duke has had incompetent officials for years.

The UCF players were doing their best Grant Williams impersonation when guarding Zion.

We’re the refs crooked when Duke lost to Mercer, Lehigh, South Carolina or other games in the tournament? Would have been nice for K if the refs could have helped him out there.

 

[docholiday51]

The UCF players were doing their best Grant Williams impersonation when guarding Zion.

We’re the refs crooked when Duke lost to Mercer, Lehigh, South Carolina or other games in the tournament? Would have been nice for K if the refs could have helped him out there.

They did help just not enough,Duke is treated differently by the media,the NCAA and the officials maybe because of K or who knows why but they are.Maybe if we could go back to '66 and change the outcome of the UK/Duke game things would be different but we can't. I despise Duke and everything about their program.I will rejoice when K is gone,it would bring me satisfaction if for some reason he left in disgrace greater than that of Joe Paterno. That is my feeling on the matter of Duke and it isn't going to change.

 

[BlueBlood66_rivals34314]

They did help just not enough,Duke is treated differently by the media,the NCAA and the officials maybe because of K or who knows why but they are.Maybe if we could go back to '66 and change the outcome of the UK/Duke game things would be different but we can't. I despise Duke and everything about their program.I will rejoice when K is gone,it would bring me satisfaction if for some reason he left in disgrace greater than that of Joe Paterno. That is my feeling on the matter of Duke and it isn't going to change.

Lol

 

[Fitch44]

Tacko should have fouled out well before that last one. It was an egregious foul on Zion at that. It was clear. Of course nobody talks about that because it doesn’t fit the narrative. As it should be because this is a UK board. So I have to do it.

Ok dipshit, how many fouls could Zion have been called for? Be honest.

 

[jameslee32]