Large-scale college entrance exam cheating plot

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REALITY CHECK ... Per U.S. News and World Report, UK is unfortunately ranked rather low (#147 among 312 national universities). This tells me applicants don't NEED to cheat to become a Wildcat.
At UNC, though, you don’t even have to register. They’ll do it for you and just send you your grades. How about that!
 

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So I wonder what happens to the students who attended and have graduated. Maybe they did the college work BUT they cheated to get in .
And what happens to those currently enrolled . Expelled? Credit or no credit for courses which they passed ? A real nightmare.
Some of the kids apparently didn't even know (but some apparently actively participated).

I think this is a case where the colleges place all blame on the parents and let the kids slide. Status quo is easiest when it comes to that.

But there are A LOT of people involved with this who are going to have to answer A LOT of questions. This was 25 million dollars paid out to cheat on college boards and bribe college coaches. It's being reported that the Georgetown tennis coach alone took 2.7 million.
 

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Regular athletes got scholarships too, I don’t see a problem. Now if it was just the privileged kids too stupid to get in a school of their choice then it is a problem.
I see what you did and I wholeheartedly approve.

You got a nose snort out of me on that one. [thumb2]
 
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Say it ain't so Aunt Becky!!!!!
 
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They aren't cheating to make their sports teams better, they are cheating to make them worse. It's about bribing your way into some of the elite schools by getting an exemption for playing sports when they couldn't get in on their own.
So schools like Stanford actually lower their entrance for athletes, or in the this case pretend athletes.
So UK got multiple season postseason ban and scholarships pulled for mainly the Eric Manual ACT scores (1000 from Emory package was hardly evidence). So I'm expecting all those schools get the same?
The story said there is no indication that the schools were involved in any of the wrongdoing. It did say though some college coaches have been charged. I’m guessing in non revenue sports. Sounds like the schools were getting scammed. Is there just nothing left in this country that can’t be corrupted?
 

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So schools like Stanford actually lower their entrance for athletes, or in the this case pretend athletes.

The story said there is no indication that the schools were involved in any of the wrongdoing. It did say though some college coaches have been charged. I’m guessing in non revenue sports. Sounds like the schools were getting scammed. Is there just nothing left in this country that can’t be corrupted?
Mostly, but not completely. See the thread about the Auburn assistant who was part of this when it happened with the Penn basketball team.

2 separate stories, but they almost have to be related given the similarities. In fact, it makes me think (though I haven't seen verification of this) that the investigation into this might have started because of wiretaps on the father of a trying to be Penn basketball player, who was being investigated for defrauding Medicare and Medicaid of a billion dollars. The FBI got something on tape that showed he was offering Jerome Allen, the Penn coach, 300K to get his son admitted as a scholarship athlete.
 
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Mostly, but not completely. See the thread about the Auburn assistant who was part of this when it happened with the Penn basketball team.

2 separate stories, but they almost have to be related given the similarities. In fact, it makes me think (though I haven't seen verification of this) that the investigation into this might have started because of wiretaps on the father of a trying to be Penn basketball player, who was being investigated for defrauding Medicare and Medicaid of a billion dollars. The FBI got something on tape that showed he was offering Jerome Allen, the Penn coach, 300K to get his son admitted as a scholarship athlete.
SMH. I was not aware of that story involving Penn.

Isn’t it funny how we all, including myself still say tape? I have to believe the FBI is storing that stuff on a hard drive. Film is another example. Nobody films anything anymore. Just ask Kodak.
 

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So I wonder what happens to the students who attended and have graduated. Maybe they did the college work BUT they cheated to get in .
And what happens to those currently enrolled . Expelled? Credit or no credit for courses which they passed ? A real nightmare.

Once you graduated I think you are ok. Except a few years back there was that Walmart heiress who paid people to write reports, take exams, etc. throughout her college years at USC. The school ended up taking away her diploma. Also, the University of Missouri pressured her dad to get her name off the arena. The Mizzou arena naming was a birthday gift for her. But this was more was cheating while in school (probably cheated to get in too), while the case today appears to just be cheating to get into school.

The ones who are in school due to lying on their application and/or cheating on the college exam should be expelled if it could be proven that they knew about it.
 

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College education quality has been going to the ******* since the early 90’s on. This is just another confirmation that our educational system in the US needs considerable overhaul.
 

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Never cared for her, and one of those twin boys is suspect.
Well then you’re just weird. It’s universally known that she’s universally liked. She’s never done anything to not be liked.

What’s funny is I used to think she was like 30+ when she started on Full House but she was only 26 I believe.
 

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Well then you’re just weird. It’s universally known that she’s universally liked. She’s never done anything to not be liked.

What’s funny is I used to think she was like 30+ when she started on Full House but she was only 26 I believe.
Don't take everything so serious, you'll get the hypertension.
 

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Somewhere in there, I am SURE there has to be a UNC** and or Duke connection.... somewhere.... lol
 

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My neighbor is an investigator for ACT. He goes all over the country investigating cheating, usually athletes. I'll have to see if he's been to NC much.
 

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So I wonder what happens to the students who attended and have graduated. Maybe they did the college work BUT they cheated to get in .
And what happens to those currently enrolled . Expelled? Credit or no credit for courses which they passed ? A real nightmare.


OT, but this is the same FBI that couldn't locate Hillary's emails and is now involved in basketball scandals and politics?

Mark me as unfriggin impressed.
 

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Turns out it was all non revenue sports. Women’s soccer, volleyball, and crew. One of my those actresses is alleged to have paid a USC coach half a mil to get her daughters on their crew team. Neither had ever rowed in their lives.
 

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It's always nice to see Hollywood people have the skin ripped off their a$$.
All varieties of the wealthy are involved. Can't hurt to prosecute the frauds helping to keep the price of a college education so inflated. Not that it would stop the practice of course. If a college wants to hide money, there are a ton of ways to accomplish it.
 
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Sounds like a bunch of people with more money than they know what to do with and the ones taking the money are basically college admissions whores.
 
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Memphis and Cal vacated a Final Four and 38 wins for essentially the same offense. Wonder if the same will happen to the new offenders?

It really isn't the same situation. According to the NCAA Rose had someone take his test to gain entrance and then he played in games for Memphis helping them win. In this case these kids didn't have good enough grades to get into the schools due to higher standards so their parent either paid people to change scores to get them into school or in some cases paid coaches of lower sports such as soccer to give them a scholarship because athletes have lower standards to gain acceptance into a university. It wasn't to help the team win but was about getting their kids a degree from a Ivy League or other higher institution of learning and the coaches filling their pockets.

One instance was a parent giving a Yale soccer coach 1.2 million dollars to give his daughter, who didn't even play soccer, a scholarship because she couldn't get into Yale on her own merits but could get in as an athlete. In this case this girl never played in any games and didn't help the team in any shape, form or fashion.
 

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Minimum standards to play NCAA in Div 1 and II

Graduate high school
Make a 2.0 in 16 core courses
400 on SAT

The reason I know is because, believe it or not, my daughter who played Junior Golf in Taiwan was contacted by a college recruiter about playing in USA. She is only in the 7th grade. This guy makes a living placing girls and boys who play golf at American University’s. He goes all over Asia doing this. He told me that some American University’s only have Asians on their team. One team, Toledo University their entire team is from Thailand. Once this guy talked to my wife, me, and my daughter he realized that my daughter has both USA and Taiwanese Citizenship and is a true bilingual plus we were moving back to the states he could guarantee he a free ride because the requirements are so low.

This entire college athletics recruiting is full of low life’s, bribes, and uneducated parents in the process. It fits right in for rich Asians who think plying bribes to get what you want is part of doing good business.
 
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