We will find out in a few weeks. The Gonzaga debate happens every years on here and always an interesting one.
This is where you're being wildly unrealistic and unfair.
Ok St Marys is the highest ranked and 1-5 in Quad 1 and has 3 losses in Quad 3. SF who is next is 0-4 in Quad 1 and 2 losses in Quad 3. Quad 1 games some aren't even that great for example Penn St counts as a Quad 1 win for Mich St. So the next best 2 teams in the Zags conference have 1 Quad 1 win total. I too have heard it is up this year I guess from beating up on the dismal Pac 12, but I don't see it as those teams are not very good.
The only teams that were really good in their nonconference were Dook, UNC, and TN and they went 1-2. In our nonconference, we played Dook, UNC, KU, and U6. But like I said ok. We will see soon enough. I'm not sure a team that didn't go undefeated has ever had an entire season with 1 Top 25 win and been a 1 seed. I just feel like the Dook win counts a little more than it should, but again we are close and will find out soon.
OK. Then let's test the resolve on this.
I gotcha. I'm not really speaking about regions or with who they should be matched. I just think when you look at the entire resume, SOS and quality wins they don't scream 1 seed and sure in the hell not overall 1 seed. Let's face it. If we played their same schedule with NET rankings and only beat 1 Top 25 team all year we wouldn't even be in the talk for a 1 or 2 seed. It is what it is, but I feel like there are more than 4 teams pushing for a 1 seed and that have great resumes and if they wanted to move UNC to the 1 line I just don't see how we would be the team to fall out with what we have done. They're a good team. It's just crazy to me that after back to back losses they will not play a good team for 3 months. I guess that is hard for me to get my head around.
And Houston's non-conference SOS (the part they have the most control over) was, per KenPom, 295, and their overall SOS is 114 vs Gonzaga's 83. Not to mention they have 0 games against top 10 teams, to Gonzaga's 3.
Fiddling with numbers.
Why does it matter if you play them when you lost 2 of the 3? So now just playing someone good even if you lose should count in your favor?
Well, first of all, there is the one huge win there. Second, because the higher on the food chain you go, the easier it is to discern worth.
I feel the same as you. Bottom line is the HOU has beaten 3 TOP 25 NET teams and can make it 4 if they beat Cinny again. The Zags have beaten 1. I feel like Virginia should be the overall 1 seed. They have lost to 1 team and have the same number of losses as the Zags do yet play in a much harder conference. I have lost interest in this myself. It is my opinion and you have yours.
The Zags have actually beaten 2 teams in the current top 25.
You're right. I forgot Washington moved in last week at 25th in the polls and 29th in the NET. So HOU 3 with a shot at 4 coming up and the Zags at 2.
We barely beat a 14-14 Arkansas team at Rupp with a favorable whistle for us on the end.
Yeah, but we also play teams like TN, FL, Miss ST twice along with Ole Miss and LSU who are all tourney teams. A little tougher night in and night out than SF, Santa Clara Barbara, Pacific, Pepperdine, Portland, and BYU.
Are you seriously comparing some teams In Gonzaga’s conference to Arkansas lol, who at like 12 in our league would prob be Min second in whatever league Gonzaga plays in. Arkansas has a fringe lottery pick lol and beat LSU on the road.
Why are you here is a better question. Zaggie.
But the two ideas are not mutually exclusive. You can be the best team and play in a weak conference. You seem to not be able to grasp that fact.
Look-you’re on the largest basketball message board in the Rivals network. We discuss college basketball. We analyze several teams throughout the course of a season. So don’t get the idea that Gonzaga is inside our minds simply because we’re talking about them. The truth is, Gonzaga isn’t even a blip on our radar now or in the past. You’re just a small little school who year in and year out plays a cupcake schedule and when the NCAA Tournament rolls around, you get humbled real fast. In short, Kentucky is the winningest team in college basketball with 8 National Championships. We don’t give 2 sh*ts about some private, Catholic school that has never won anything on a national level.
If we are not a “blip on your radar” why have four dedicated threads about us in the past 10 days? And your analysis about us in the tournament is completely false, in fact it’s the exact opposite, We are the only team in the nation to have made the Sweet 16 the last four years straight and have played to our seed something like eight out of the last nine years. But that’s OK, think what you want.
I tried to be nice the first time but you’re still bumping those gums. Do you see the irony in your claim that you’re in our head? We’re not on your board (do you even have one?) You’re on OUR board for at least the last 10 days so who’s in who’s head? Once again, we give zero f*cks about any mid major, non blue blood school. Don’t flatter yourself.
And you’ve won exactly how many titles during that span?
Gonzaga is to good a team to have you make excuses for those losses. I think you guys are legit, but you must understand why Kentucky fans are questioning why you deserve a one seed based on your resume alone. Having said that, if we don't win the tourney, I and probably every UK fan will be pulling for Gonzaga. Good luck you you guys as well.
This is the problem....it’s so untrue. Gonzaga has a better track record than any school over the past 10 years playing to or exceeding their seed.
The same amount as Kentucky. But in that span we have played in the championship game; one more than Kentucky.
