Carey announcing Thursday

LineSkiCat14

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I MIGHT start to get concerned if they get a reclass to fill some holes. And while I was wrong about 3 SF's playing together (although, I'm still curious about Duke going forward), we're talking Centers.

As it stands now, Duke is not looking anywhere close as good as the last 3 seasons: teams that had returning talent and a great mix of recruiting.
 

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Carey and Wendell Moore do not make the Blue Devils the most talented team in the nation. Kentucky still has 1. a better class and 2. more talent coming back.

Duke still needs a PG, a SG, another wing (one barely 20th ranked recruit won't cut it by himself), and an inside presence that can shoot.

Step away from the ledge.

Wow... Im just F****** glad K and Duke arent known to fill out their elite classes with elite players or anything. All we have to do is pray that team usa and duke boosters forget to help them round out their team next year.
 

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The issue I have with this line of thinking is you have to believe there is a major conspriacy against UK , because more people believe we were screwed over VS UNCheat than Whisky ... so following that line of thought in our two biggest failures the past 5 years were not of our doing but simply referees, we were screwed out those games .. and while I think they do a pretty horrible job sometimes I dont think I accept the referee conspiracy theory as being the culprit . We did PLENTY on our own to cost us those two games . PLENTY .

I never mentioned conspiracy. All I said was that in response to a post, that Cal choked at the Wisconsin game was incorrect. Cal may not be the best bench coach whoever hung a whistle around their neck, but he is far from the worst, and the Wisconsin game was decided by the stripes, plain and simple. I don't believe there is a conspiracy. I do, however, think there are 2 or 3 refs that are biased and can affect the outcome of a game, and Higgins is their king. The game you mentioned, against UNCheat is an excellent example.
 
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Wow... Im just F****** glad K and Duke arent known to fill out their elite classes with elite players or anything. All we have to do is pray that team usa and duke boosters forget to help them round out their team next year.

Well, you're derailing a bit.. but that's kind of what I suspected months ago. FBI comes around, Capel bolts, and now they have Vernon Carey and... Wendell Moore? You're THAT worried about those two?
 

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Hurt has Kansas written all over him. I have zero confidence we’re even in the conversation. I’d gladly eat crow but don’t think that’s going to happen

Hurt is tight with Mike Miller at Memphis... we very well could just get owned by both Duke and Memphis .......... fun times indeed
 
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Well, you're derailing a bit.. but that's kind of what I suspected months ago. FBI comes around, Capel bolts, and now they have Vernon Carey and... Wendell Moore? You're THAT worried about those two?

Im that worried we've become Duke's beotch. our fan base doesnt even see that something is wrong in our own program to be losing all these guys when we have starting time available
 

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Im that worried we've become Duke's beotch. our fan base doesnt even see that something is wrong in our own program to be losing all these guys when we have starting time available

I think a lot of that is over. we wanted Small Forwards? We went and got the best one. We wanted in state talent? We got the best Kentucky guy (or arguably the best..). Kentucky is STILL the only school with two top10 guys next year.

If Duke somehow grabs McDaniels (not even sure that's in play), Stewart (also not likely with Carey, don't buy this), and an RJ Hampton reclass.. then I'll concede they are still getting help.

But as of now, still think a lot oft his has washed over.
 

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How is it not against NCAA rules to allow different academic standards for athletes but not the overall student body?
 

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Carey and Wendell Moore do not make the Blue Devils the most talented team in the nation. Kentucky still has 1. a better class and 2. more talent coming back.

Duke still needs a PG, a SG, another wing (one barely 20th ranked recruit won't cut it by himself), and an inside presence that can shoot.

Step away from the ledge.

You're wasting your time. Cal has fallen off completely and Coach K owns college basketball even though he hasn't been to the Final Four since the Wisconsin loss that destroyed our whole program.
 

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I thought Stewart did NOT want to play with Carey

I'm not buying the rumor that they want to play together. They aren't wings that can share the floor. What two centers want to split minutes? With Bolden and Carey at Duke, why would Stewart want to go there? Coach K doesn't even run much for his bigs, his system isn't predicted on the front court.

I said there's no way Duke (or any school) lands both of them. I stick by it.
 

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Interesting you chose to cut that off at 3 years........... what happened 4 years ago when they also had as much talent as UK in 2015?

That was not a OAD team in 2015 & had nowhere near the talent of Duke's last 3 teams.

If Cal had Duke's roster last 3 seasons & failed to make a final 4 you'd be ready to behead him. Duke NOT making final 4 last 3 seasons with the elite talent they had was a complete failure. Coach K has coached 40 seasons...he's not winning a championship every year.
 

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Your Cal negativity knows no bounds. No way that game was Cal's fault. Officiating was the cause of the outcome of that game, plain and simple. There is no argument for this.
Hate to be the one to break it to you, Ben but there is an argument for it
 
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I honestly wish some of you would stop being UK fans because you're a cancer to BBN & this forum. The overreaction here is off the charts.

We've known for over a week Carey wasn't coming to UK, he cut us from consideration; yet some of you morons are still having a meltdown...lol
 

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But as everyone says, you want the most talent. It does not however, guarantee a championship.

Well it did guarantee championships when Cal was the only one getting all the players. We've griped & complained all through 4 final 4's & a Naty that if Coach K had the talent Cal was pulling he'd win every year. Well...welcome to reality.
 

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Your Cal negativity knows no bounds. No way that game was Cal's fault. Officiating was the cause of the outcome of that game, plain and simple. There is no argument for this.
Officiating the reason Cal would not change defenses all night? Officials the reason we had 3 straight shot clocks? Officials the reason that KAT didn’t touch the ball in all three of those violations? To blame the officials is just lame.
 

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He might have to be an impact player.

.. and that usually doesn't go too well. If he can slide over to the point, that would be a huge help.. otherwise a 6-2 shooting guard is more of a luxury, and not something you rely on.

Carey is a good get for Duke, I'm not down playing that. I'm just saying, they have a lot.. a LOT more work to do if they want to compete for a title next year. Jones could return, but I don't see it. His brother was 1AD and his best chance to show out is alongside Zion and RJ. I think he's gone.
 

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That was not a OAD team in 2015 & had nowhere near the talent of Duke's last 3 teams.

If Cal had Duke's roster last 3 seasons & failed to make a final 4 you'd be ready to behead him. Duke NOT making final 4 last 3 seasons with the elite talent they had was a complete failure. Coach K has coached 40 seasons...he's not winning a championship every year.

It was as much one and done as our title team... 3 freshmen and the rest returning players.
 

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.. and that usually doesn't go too well. If he can slide over to the point, that would be a huge help.. otherwise a 6-2 shooting guard is more of a luxury, and not something you rely on.

Carey is a good get for Duke, I'm not down playing that. I'm just saying, they have a lot.. a LOT more work to do if they want to compete for a title next year. Jones could return, but I don't see it. His brother was 1AD and his best chance to show out is alongside Zion and RJ. I think he's gone.

I think he’s gone too, that’s why I said Ellis might have to be an impact player. If Jones returns Ellis is more of a luxury. Definitely can use his shooting though. Can never have too many shooter you know.
 

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It was as much one and done as our title team... 3 freshmen and the rest returning players.

I never said ours was OAD. You're acting like Coach K is winning a championship every year. He has not & will not. Be a little more objective & not so emotional & knee jerk reactions.
 
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I never mentioned conspiracy. All I said was that in response to a post, that Cal choked at the Wisconsin game was incorrect. Cal may not be the best bench coach whoever hung a whistle around their neck, but he is far from the worst, and the Wisconsin game was decided by the stripes, plain and simple. I don't believe there is a conspiracy. I do, however, think there are 2 or 3 refs that are biased and can affect the outcome of a game, and Higgins is their king. The game you mentioned, against UNCheat is an excellent example.

Hard to believe these are isolated incidents , both deep in the tourney , both with a potential Championship on the line , both times the same team got screwed by different ref's ? But theres no conspiracy ? ( I dont think there is but many many on here do)
 

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I never said ours was OAD. You're acting like Coach K is winning a championship every year. He has not & will not. Be a little more objective & not so emotional & knee jerk reactions.

He's keeping us from national championships and thats what I care about.. Proven fact that Cal needs top 5 players to win a title... and we're losing them all and Duke is prime culprit #1
 
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I think he’s gone too, that’s why I said Ellis might have to be an impact player. If Jones returns Ellis is more of a luxury. Definitely can use his shooting though. Can never have too many shooter you know.

Duke always does well with that. Althought a 6-2 shooter.. I think that's why he can't crack the top35.. which could be a good thing if he can prove his height isn't a problem.

So you have:

G - Ellis
G - O'Connell
G/SF - Moore
PF - Bolden
C - Carey

Reserves: White and Javin

There's a lot more needed to be a contender. And FWIW, those pieces don't really fit together. Bolden as a PF? O'Connell starting? Like I said, Duke needs to make serious moves.
 

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Duke always does well with that. Althought a 6-2 shooter.. I think that's why he can't crack the top35.. which could be a good thing if he can prove his height isn't a problem.

So you have:

G - Ellis
G - O'Connell
G/SF - Moore
PF - Bolden
C - Carey

Reserves: White and Javin

There's a lot more needed to be a contender. And FWIW, those pieces don't really fit together. Bolden as a PF? O'Connell starting? Like I said, Duke needs to make serious moves.

Agree they need to sigh someone else. Especially if Jones is gone. They have Baker as well though.