P_SS on duke university...(Get the capitalization correct gty...)
Carey announcing Thursday
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P_SS on duke university...(Get the capitalization correct gty...)
Carey's coming to UK. this is more dark horse than Knox considering we're not even in the top 3. write it down its happening.....
really though......... why care at this point?
really though......... why care at this point?
It's going to be awesome the next few years watching everyone write how UK's not getting guys because we don't cheat.
That's great. It doesn't solve the problem, but it's a wonderful foundation to creating a complete culture of losers.
That's great. It doesn't solve the problem, but it's a wonderful foundation to creating a complete culture of losers.
Other teams are negatively recruiting against our style/coaching and rightly so. If I was recruiting against Cal I'd certainly be spinning the he can't coach, doesn't know how to use players skill's correctly, and runs no offense argument. All of those things have merit and can be proven on tape. If Cal doesn't start changing he's done winning titles.
Not like Izzo's style is an exciting offense. Also, last time I checked, Duke hasn't made a Final 4 the past 3 years either with all the freshmen talent they've had. Can easily point out coaching flaws in those teams too.
Izzo has never gotten elite talent and doesn't try to present himself as NBA University like Kentucky/Cal does. K doesn't have anything to prove to anyone he's universally lauded as the greatest college basketball coach of all time whether you agree with that or not. My point more is less is that if we plan on continuing the selling focus being NBA U we better start to play a style that looks anything like NBA basketball
Thanks, I have thought about changing my name because that idiot's name was so close to mine, and others have got us mixed up before, but I did not want to lose my post count. So here i be.
He eliminated us so why even mention his name in here
Thanks you son of a Saginaw Fisherman. I can't get that song out of my head now. I never listened to the link either.
I'm gonna throw out my theory, maybe it'll stick. Cal has a vengeance plan for Duke after the way Zion played UK. He will commit to the Cats today out of the blue when many had him penciled in as a Dukie. It's been Cal's plan this whole time. Carey will reach down under the table and pull out a UK hat.
I have no sources but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night.
I have no sources but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night.
Your tongue-in-cheek humour sure beats " we lost another recruit" that was never ours in the first place.
K likely gets another top 5 guy:
Top 5 players destinations since 2015 (from 247 composite rankings):
Duke - 8
Kansas - 2
UK - 1 (Skal)
UCLA - 1
Washington - 1
Mizzou - 1
Texas - 1
Arizona - 1
Alabama - 1
Oregon - 1
UNC - 1
LSU - 1
Cal - 1
Memphis - 1
Top 5 players destinations since 2015 (from 247 composite rankings):
Duke - 8
Kansas - 2
UK - 1 (Skal)
UCLA - 1
Washington - 1
Mizzou - 1
Texas - 1
Arizona - 1
Alabama - 1
Oregon - 1
UNC - 1
LSU - 1
Cal - 1
Memphis - 1
That choke job Cal put on against Wisky hurt him badly, I have felt that ever since.
Interesting that UK and Duke have been to the same number of Final Fours since then....wonder who does less with more...
Kids are now looking at NBA bigs and seeing all the different places they have gone yet still succeeding. I don’t think Nick Richards has helped things either
I think that when I glance across it as well. Sucks but don’t change just for that loser.
That's just absurd. Good news is it can only go one direction from here for Dukes recruiting
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Jay Wright must be Jesus then because he made 2 Nattys out of 5 loaves and 2 fish.
I remember the days when we would get excited about players decisions that were in the top 5.
Fffaaaarrr ccccaaaalllll!!!!!!
Get rid of barnfart
Fffaaaarrr ccccaaaalllll!!!!!!
Get rid of barnfart
That will be the first and last like I’ll probably ever give you congrats on saying something funny
I don't think Nick matters one way or the other. Cal has too many to point to that will also give Cal the credit....
Obviously cal has changed something with his recruiting pitch. It also doesn’t help having less than mediocre recruiters. We need a guy like coach o back. Barbee needs to go and Justus isn’t of much use either. The payne train is good along with robic because his hair comes close to matching cals. I think cal is taking the first commits rather than playing it out. No offense to guys like Richards but they are ready and willing to commit on the spot it kind of sends away the top 5 guys that could take his spot. I do enjoy that he’s getting guys that can shoot the ball atleast they have shown they can. Cal will get it back on track we just need to get someone in there that can sell these kids cause the staff now is not getting it done. This year on paper we all thought a2015 type season. We could still make a deep run, but some things gotta change.
Since he's been at Kentucky:
first in wins
first in winning percentage
first in NCAA tournament wins
most final fours
first ballot hall of famer
but "he can't coach, doesn't know how to use players skill's correctly (sic), and runs no offense."
Moronic take.
Maybe because it corresponds with the end of the run that sent UK to 4 Final Fours in 5 years - those 5 years each featuring an elite player and the only year without a Final Four during that run was when one of the elite players tore his ACL?
Do we need a 20 year sample size before we acknowledge how this thing works best under Calipari? Cal's the best OAD coach in the land. He went to 5 Final Fours from '08 to '15. Each of those Final Fours featured an elite freshman. It's not really a stretch to lay a claim to Cal's system working best when he has elite freshmen.
Can he do it with multiple guys in the 6-15 range? Yes. Right now, we have two locked up for next year. Gonna need a third guy like McDaniels or Hurt.
No doubt Cal is superior OAD coach. Which is the point many of us are making. We want to start landing those guys again. Comparing him to K is fun, but it can also serve as deflection. It really comes down to what works best for Cal.
But it doesn't correspond to anything. We were a shot away from the Final Four in 17 and I think we're one of a handful of teams with a chance this year. If you mean that the Skal team wasn't very good and last year's team lost a game they shouldn't have in the tournament, sure.
But this game is too macro to use individual seasons as indicators of anything, and it's just as dumb to use a three year sample as it is to arbitrarily cut off the rankings at top 5. It's like when Louisville fans used to argue that they had as many titles as we did since 1980. It's cherrypicked nonsense.
You don't think a 5 year sample size is sufficient? Keep your head buried in the sand if you want but starting in 2015 is when (according to everyone- fans, media, etc...) when Cal started losing top guys and struggled to land the top tier talent he was bringing in previously.
Maybe top 5 shouldn't be the cutoff, I'm not sure. But, if you don't agree that Cal has missed on a crazy amount of top guys and hasn't landed the best of the best (which he himself said is what he does at UK) than I am not sure what to tell you.
5 years is more than plenty to form an opinion on.
I think Whitney is a top five type sort of player, maybe even top three. I sort of think Matthew Hurt is a top five player as well.
Some classes have ten or twelve players who can step in and contribute at an all-conference level immediately. Others, like last year, have maybe just five or six total. This current class is strong and that's good for Kentucky, because it means we still have a chance to get top five talent without getting actual top five rated guys (though Whitney might be in there before it's all said and done, and of course there's McDaniels in there).
So the ranking isn't the most worrying thing. The most worrying thing is that Cal has coveted guys the last two or three years he's missed on. In Cal's defense, two of those guys--Young and Wiseman--ended up at their hometown schools. And when Cal has moved off of those top guys he's wanted more than anybody, it's been too late.
You've got to get your main target at a place like Kentucky. And that will still be true after Cal leaves here.
Some classes have ten or twelve players who can step in and contribute at an all-conference level immediately. Others, like last year, have maybe just five or six total. This current class is strong and that's good for Kentucky, because it means we still have a chance to get top five talent without getting actual top five rated guys (though Whitney might be in there before it's all said and done, and of course there's McDaniels in there).
So the ranking isn't the most worrying thing. The most worrying thing is that Cal has coveted guys the last two or three years he's missed on. In Cal's defense, two of those guys--Young and Wiseman--ended up at their hometown schools. And when Cal has moved off of those top guys he's wanted more than anybody, it's been too late.
You've got to get your main target at a place like Kentucky. And that will still be true after Cal leaves here.
Your Cal negativity knows no bounds. No way that game was Cal's fault. Officiating was the cause of the outcome of that game, plain and simple. There is no argument for this.