Forde & Thamel: Is Zion Williamson the new Cam Newton? Why Duke's star could face eligibility issues

[anon_9qtxg60vqzy0y]

https://sports.yahoo.com/zion-willi...face-eligibility-issues-season-210307389.html

 

[Spanish Radio]

https://sports.yahoo.com/zion-willi...face-eligibility-issues-season-210307389.html

Duke will apply the Lance Thomas freeze defense. No one talks and this will just go away.

 

[MbergCat]

Duke and Kansas should be heavily investigated. There should be no arguments there.

 

[uky8unc5]

The storyline will be something like this:
It will take the NCAA a year to investigate.
They will conclude he should have been ineligible
But they will excuse Dook because K is the Golden Child

 

[flacat22]

Copy and paste, don’t give those douchetards clicks OP.

 

[KentuckyCat420]

Literally my two most hated writers team up to go after Zion and Duke. I’ll give credit where it’s due, but they’re both still douchebags.

 

[ObjectivelyModerate]

Kansas might go down but Duke will not as long as Coach K is there.

 

[ZakkW]

What's to investigate really, seems pretty simple. There is a taped conversation which says this guy's "representative/handler/whatever" is asking for illegal benefits. Per Cecil Newton rule, that makes ZW ineligible. Period.

 

[anon_9qtxg60vqzy0y]

Copy and paste, don’t give those douchetards clicks OP.

You think a few message board posters boycotting their articles is going to put them out of business? :chairshot:

 

[flacat22]

Loophole of “the athlete didn’t know” was closed. No way he should suit up for them but we know he will. The NCAA has no balls to stand up to dUKe

 

[flacat22]

You think a few message board posters boycotting their articles is going to put them out of business? :chairshot:

:stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

 

[ColonelCat_rivals376764]

Duke will apply the Lance Thomas freeze defense. No one talks and this will just go away.

so true,

 

[CatOfDaVille]

What's to investigate really, seems pretty simple. There is a taped conversation which says this guy's "representative/handler/whatever" is asking for illegal benefits. Per Cecil Newton rule, that makes ZW ineligible. Period.

I think the problem here is that there's no proof that Zion's stepfather asked for anything... at least that's what the NCAA would say.

That's why there needs to be an investigation...to try to find that proof. Will the be an investigation is the question.

I think that's the best we can hope for...an investigation that forces Duke to sit Zion or risk vacating games a la Billy Preston. Duke won't get punished, but it may be that they are without their best player for some games.

Probably wishful thinking on my part.

 

[Cardsstink]

I want them at full tilt Nov. 6. We are gonna beat dat a.....

After that, I hope they all burn.

 

[BBNinSCar]

Right. I want no Duke excuses.

 

[Bluesnky]

I doubt anything happens with Zion.

Kansas is going down.

This is probably why Zion went to Duke: no one will push too hard to prove what happened.

 

[wildcat1515]

Hell no they wont do anything to Duke or Coach ***-K! They will probably make up a new rule with this new G-league thing and Kansas and Duke will escape because the NCAA will grandfather them in, with some new thing. Heck why do you think they came out with this G-League thing today, right after the trail??? Yeah I know I could be stretching a bit, but who knows with them. Duke Sucks!!!

 

[nookam]

The excuse will be time ran out. He’s going to the NBA and we can’t make them talk. Same as Lance Thomas. D Rose left for the NBA and yet everything was vacated because he didn’t talk to them.

 

[wildcat1515]

Loophole of “the athlete didn’t know” was closed. No way he should suit up for them but we know he will. The NCAA has no balls to stand up to dUKe

Well if he went to Duke then there was no problems at all! Once again if he went to Duke then there are no problems, once again repeat after me..............

 

[SemperFiCat]

I wonder if Kansas goes down they'll give over evidence of Zion and take Duke with them.

 

[K_TIME]

I think the problem here is that there's no proof that Zion's stepfather asked for anything... at least that's what the NCAA would say.

That's why there needs to be an investigation...to try to find that proof. Will the be an investigation is the question..

But it doesn't take much to investigate where his family current lives and where they used to live before he got to Duke. If they are indeed living in a swank neighborhood along with testimony he was "up for sale"....then that is more than enough to punish. But like most...not holding my breath.

 

[flacat22]

Like Mike White said, “every athlete every summer has been thoroughly vetted,” ie the NCAA let us get away with this same **** last year with Bagley and his family now there’s just a silly wiretap recording.

 

[Ben101er]

Like Mike White said, “every athlete every summer has been thoroughly vetted,” ie the NCAA let us get away with this same **** last year with Bagley and his family now there’s just a silly wiretap recording.

Yep. If you were the NCAA who would you believe? Some silly FBI wiretapped conversations and sworn testimony, or Mike White's word that Puke's internal vetting showed everyone was eligible? Of course Duke is more trustworthy than evidence, everyone knows that.

 

[KYCAT78]

I think the problem here is that there's no proof that Zion's stepfather asked for anything... at least that's what the NCAA would say.

That's why there needs to be an investigation...to try to find that proof. Will the be an investigation is the question.

I think that's the best we can hope for...an investigation that forces Duke to sit Zion or risk vacating games a la Billy Preston. Duke won't get punished, but it may be that they are without their best player for some games.

Probably wishful thinking on my part.

Who cares if Zion plays we are going to beat Duke like a rented mule. Duke will be screaming NO MAS, NO MAS.

 

[yoshukai]

Duke will apply the Lance Stephenson freeze defense. No one talks and this will just go away.

Lance Thomas ?

 

[Cardsstink]

Yep. If you were the NCAA who would you believe? Some silly FBI wiretapped conversations and sworn testimony, or Mike White's word that Puke's internal vetting showed everyone was eligible? Of course Duke is more trustworthy than evidence, everyone knows that.

Like Saudi Arabia investigating it's own murder, haha.

 

[Wallins Creek cat]

NCAA has no jurisdiction on Tobacco road. Too many folks in very high places.

 

[sambowieshin_rivals]

Mark my words. Zion will not miss a minute of game time..... unless his buffett is moved to Cameron Indoor and within a fork reach. Duke will absolutely not cooperate and, just like UNCheat, they are skillful, meticulous and sophisticated cheaters. They are untouchable until K is gone.
Cheatin Fu#@er$.

 

[kevcat]

Penis Thameltoe, Patty Ford, and the NCAA are all pathetic losers with zero credibility.

 

[Bogansistheman]

I mean obviously he’s clean. What could Duke possibly have to gain by cheating?

 

[flacat22]

Yep. If you were the NCAA who would you believe? Some silly FBI wiretapped conversations and sworn testimony, or Mike White's word that Puke's internal vetting showed everyone was eligible? Of course Duke is more trustworthy than evidence, everyone knows that.

But, but, White’s son is the AD at 2017 NCAA undefeated football National Champ UCF. That family can claim ANYTHING they want!!

 

[Spanish Radio]

Lance Thomas ?

Oops...i will fix it. Too many Lances.

 

[Wildcats1st]

Tired of hearing “duke isn’t touchable”. If rules were broken and the media stays on it and digs digs digs and puts pressure on ncaa the ncaa will cave

OR it will have such a negative impact that it will screw dukes season. Ratface ends up with a back injury

 

[Mojocat_rivals48469]

zeit·geist
/ˈtsītˌɡīst,ˈzītˌɡīst/
noun
the defining spirit or mood of a particular period of history as shown by the ideas and beliefs of the time.

Word of the day. All of you that are cock-sure Duke and Kansas are gong to get off scot free...that’s fear, and disgust, and honestly a deserved lack of faith in the NCAA. But I’m telling you, we are in the middle of a cultural moment. Politics, sports, all of it. The idea that elites should somehow get away with something others would not, doesn’t match the zeitgeist of this era. Plus the NCAA genuinely fears extinction, coming out of this my bet is it will correctly understand it’s under a microscope and that it has something to prove. Letting either Duke or KU “get away” with something just won’t do. I think KU is in real danger, and Duke is in some trouble too.....

 

[GonzoCat90]

If a shady shoe guy talking to someone at Kansas constitutes proof then we're in trouble too because they named us in a text with Self.

Let's wait and see what else comes out.

 

[westerncat]

zeit·geist
/ˈtsītˌɡīst,ˈzītˌɡīst/
noun
the defining spirit or mood of a particular period of history as shown by the ideas and beliefs of the time.

Word of the day. All of you that are cock-sure Duke and Kansas are gong to get off scot free...that’s fear, and disgust, and honestly a deserved lack of faith in the NCAA. But I’m telling you, we are in the middle of a cultural moment. Politics, sports, all of it. The idea that elites should somehow get away with something others would not, doesn’t match the zeitgeist of this era. Plus the NCAA genuinely fears extinction, coming out of this my bet is it will correctly understand it’s under a microscope and that it has something to prove. Letting either Duke or KU “get away” with something just won’t do. I think KU is in real danger, and Duke is in some trouble too.....

I will believe that when pigs fly !

 

[jrpross_rivals]

Oops...i will fix it. Too many Lances.

That’s ok. Typical pretentious Duke first name like Grayson.

 

[3kidsandme]

If a shady shoe guy talking to someone at Kansas constitutes proof then we're in trouble too because they named us in a text with Self.

Let's wait and see what else comes out.

You don't see the difference? He named us with no actual contact with anybody from UK. Self actually texted with these people.

 

[GonzoCat90]

You don't see the difference? He named us with no actual contact with anybody from UK. Self actually texted with these people.

This is a conversation with an assistant. The bag man himself named us in a text to Self.

If we're believing the texts of crooks and cheaters let's go see what Rick Pitino thinks while we're at it.

I'm not saying Zion is clean. I'm saying I'm going to need more than a text from a scumbag before I start crying about how the NCAA never punishes Duke and saying it's cut and dry that Zion should be ineligible or that it's exactly like the Cam Newton situation.

But nobody reads anymore. Just take the headline and get real mad in whatever direction it takes you. Everyone make sure you vote in two weeks.

 

[Spanish Radio]

This is a conversation with an assistant. The bag man himself named us in a text to Self.

If we're believing the texts of crooks and cheaters let's go see what Rick Pitino thinks while we're at it.

I'm not saying Zion is clean. I'm saying I'm going to need more than a text from a scumbag before I start crying about how the NCAA never punishes Duke and saying it's cut and dry that Zion should be ineligible or that it's exactly like the Cam Newton situation.

But nobody reads anymore. Just take the headline and get real mad in whatever direction it takes you. Everyone make sure you vote in two weeks.

Is it enough to launch an investigation into Duke?