Forde, Thamel say FBI has Andy Miller wiretaps and documentation of payments to player families

[akaukswoosh]

https://sports.yahoo.com/sources-sp...t-scheme-hoops-corruption-case-001618078.html

Sources familiar with the probe told Yahoo Sports that there’s a surprising level of specificity in the documents, bank records and wiretaps involving Miller’s business. They include exact dollar figures and intricate documentation of payments to the families of college players. There are also conversations brokering deals between Dawkins and the clients he was recruiting.

“There are spreadsheets detailing who got paid, how much they got paid and how much more they were planning to pay,” said a source familiar with the investigation. “The feds got everything they wanted and much more. Don’t think it will only be players who ended up signing with ASM that got paid. Those spreadsheets cast a wide net throughout college basketball. If your school produced a first-round pick in the past three years, be worried.”

 

[fisherscat]

Comforting thing for UK fans is that it only seems to go back 3 years. Will be interesting if the NCAA even deals with any of this.

 

[senonesy]

Comforting thing for UK fans is that it only seems to go back 3 years. Will be interesting if the NCAA even deals with any of this.

I’m not overly worried, but why would only going back 3 years comfort anyone. UK has had a lot of first round picks in the last 3 years

 

[Fannin12]

Didn't you hear the press conference today? Coach 2 is innocent!

 

[SilentsAreGolden]

The guy, Andy Miller and Cal hate each other, so pretty much zero chance we are involved. Besides, if we were paying players, we wouldn't be getting outbid.

 

[fisherscat]

I’m not overly worried, but why would only going back 3 years comfort anyone. UK has had a lot of first round picks in the last 3 years

Theres not a title that can be taken away. Only the 2015 FF would be an issue.

 

[akaukswoosh]

Fwiw, I looked at a list of Andy Miller's NBA clients. Only UK name I saw was Keith Bogans and for all I know Bogans has gone through many agents over the years.

 

[TheDude73]

Comforting thing for UK fans is that it only seems to go back 3 years. Will be interesting if the NCAA even deals with any of this.

If they (NCAA) see anything at all tied to UK, you can bet your *** they’ll do something about it.

 

[EmCats3]

I’m not overly worried, but why would only going back 3 years comfort anyone. UK has had a lot of first round picks in the last 3 years

Because it leaves out 2012, and depending on what you consider the last 3 years possibly 2015 as well

 

[senonesy]

Fwiw, I looked at a list of Andy Miller's NBA clients. Only UK name I saw was Keith Bogans and for all I know Bogans has gone through many agents.

Noel?

 

[weatherbird]

I’m not overly worried, but why would only going back 3 years comfort anyone. UK has had a lot of first round picks in the last 3 years

If my memory serves correctly, the 3 years are 2016, 2017, and this year. Which means only Murray, Skal, Fox, Monk, and Bam would be part of that. As has been stated before, Cal and this Andy Miller hate each other, so I wouldn't be overly concerned just yet.

 

[FiveStarCat]

When are we going to find out the details? Or is Thamel just going to milk this as long as he can?

 

[SilentsAreGolden]

Noel?

Yes, but Noel dropped him after one year. Likely couldn't stand the stench.

 

[SilentsAreGolden]

If my memory serves correctly, the 3 years are 2016, 2017, and this year. Which means only Murray, Skal, Fox, Monk, and Bam would be part of that. As has been stated before, Cal and this Andy Miller hate each other, so I wouldn't be overly concerned just yet.

And there is nobody on that list who I would suspect of being involved in a pay for play scandal.

 

[Cardsstink]

And there is nobody on that list who I would suspect of being involved in a pay for play scandal.

Anybody got a list of this agent’s NBA clients?

 

[Aike]

Yes, but Noel dropped him after one year. Likely couldn't stand the stench.

Noel was with Miller until the end of 2016. I think Marquis Teague signed with Miller too. Not positive.

 

[Aike]

Anybody got a list of this agent’s NBA clients?

https://basketball.realgm.com/info/agent-client-list/Andy-Miller/14

 

[SilentsAreGolden]

Noel was with Miller until the end of 2016. I think Marquis Teague signed with Miller too. Not positive.

Oh, I heard that on MJ today. Facts are optional on that show.

 

[SilentsAreGolden]

https://basketball.realgm.com/info/agent-client-list/Andy-Miller/14

I just skimmed it, but I didn't see any Chokehawks. Saw a UL, Dukie, Arizona, LSU, Florida, Alabama, Syracuse, Villanova, UConn.

 

[CatPhight_rivals65113]

 

[SilentsAreGolden]

Ricky P is not in Cal's Circle of Trust.

 

[Rideordiewildcat]

USC guard ensnared in FBI investigation withdraws from school to prepare for pro career

Jeff Eisenberg
The DaggerFeb 21, 2018, 1:15 PM

The suspended USC guard ensnared in the FBI investigation is done with college basketball.

Prized sophomore De’Anthony Melton announced Wednesday that he is withdrawing from USC and focusing on preparing for next June’s NBA draft.


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Melton has not played for the Trojans this season due to eligibility concerns stemming from the FBI investigation into bribery and corruption in college basketball. USC announced last month that it is holding Melton out of competition for at least the rest of the 2017-18 season after the school’s internal investigation corroborated that would-be agent Christian Dawkins paid a family friend of Melton’s $5,000 in exchange for advising the prospect to hire Dawkins and financial advisor Munish Sood when he turned pro.

USC allowed Melton to remain on scholarship and practice with the team. The school did not rule out the possibility that he could potentially compete for the Trojans next season had he chosen to remain in school for another year.

Melton is considered a potential late first-round pick this June even though he has not had a chance to show off his development this season. The dynamic wing needs to demonstrate during workouts that his outside shooting has improved, but he was USC’s most disruptive perimeter defender as a freshman and he showed a knack for guarding multiple positions, making plays in the open court and finishing in transition.

The absence of Melton is a big reason USC has not lived up to expectations this season.

USC began the season in the top 15 of the AP poll thanks to the return of a handful of key players from last year’s NCAA tournament team and the arrival of a talented freshman class. With Melton sidelined, forward Bennie Boatwright now out for the season due to injury and the FBI investigation hanging over the program, the Trojans (19-9, 10-5) are on the NCAA tournament bubble.

 

[kyhunter88]

I would not think Marquis would be in this. Jeff Teague was already making big money in NBA while Marquis was at UK. I'm not concerned yet either. But it will be very interesting to see who is involved when this stuff is released.

 

[AnarchoNeoLuddite_rivals]

Amazing that Bagley was in on USC and Zona both schools that are facing trouble. Might say something, eh?

 

[Blueblood410]

Bill Self about to sweat his toupee off.

 

[Aike]

I just skimmed it, but I didn't see any Chokehawks. Saw a UL, Dukie, Arizona, LSU, Florida, Alabama, Syracuse, Villanova, UConn.

The other part is what kids was he paying who ultimately signed elsewhere?

 

[Bluesbrother]

Bill Self about to sweat his toupee off.

Bill Self about to sweat his toupee off.

Kansas is in big trouble, IMO. Self may be gone. UK clean. Wouldn't matter if Duke, UNC were dirty...they would skate.

 

[Wildcats1st]

UK and KU will vacate wins and uncheat will be all time wins leader. That’s how the NCAA will play it in the end.

 

[Rideordiewildcat]

Bill Self about to sweat his toupee off.

Especially since it's been said he's good friends with Gatto. (Or was LOL-probably not taking his calls from jail.)

 

[preacherfan]

I honestly hate this stuff being released like this. They tell us nothing but gossip and innuendo. To me, Thamel and Forde are just nothing more than National Inquirer reporters just trying to get attention.

 

[Bkocats]

I’m not worried about us. Just don’t believe we have enough breathing room to engage in something like that. However, I could be wrong. If so, I’d like to think we would accept that it happened, accept any penalties with class and dignity and without making excuses or flat out lying.
In the meantime, what’s the use in worrying over what may or may not be?
But damn I sure hope certain other programs get their asses handed to them :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

 

[Rideordiewildcat]

Not sure how we get caught up in this. That's why we hired the NCAA lady to overview everything. Plus if it's true the main FBI guy and Cal hate each other and the fact we have been missing on so many Ky leans past couple years. Little odd isn't it? We are getting all top 5 guys and big time recruits and then we start missing left and right and guys that start out as down deal to KY go elsewhere past couple years. Just saying.

 

[kyups01]

If my memory serves correctly, the 3 years are 2016, 2017, and this year. Which means only Murray, Skal, Fox, Monk, and Bam would be part of that. As has been stated before, Cal and this Andy Miller hate each other, so I wouldn't be overly concerned just yet.

Why and how do you know they hate each other?

 

[*Bleedingblue*]

I just skimmed it, but I didn't see any Chokehawks. Saw a UL, Dukie, Arizona, LSU, Florida, Alabama, Syracuse, Villanova, UConn.

Nothing would please me more than to see UConn, Duke, Syracuse also get their wins taken away.

 

[Ukbrassowtipin]

Yawn. Would be hilarious tho if every school fell except UK and and all other teams fans were still calling UK a cheater

 

[rick64]

One thing is for sure, if Thamel or Forde had any kind of hint that UK and Cal were named in the probe we’d have heard it already. Let’s hope it stays that way.

 

[anon_q409idbs5m40a]

Nothing would please me more than to see UConn, Duke, Syracuse also get their wins taken away.

I could see LSU being involved with the "remarkable" recruiting class under Johnny Jones.

 

[Col. Angus]

Is that former Kansas Jayhawk Wayne Selden with Jim Gatto, the Adidas executive implicated in the scandal?

That's Derrick Rose.

 

[anon_dge1vx8o0wnm7]

Wake me up when there are names listed

 

[anon_9qtxg60vqzy0y]

That's Derrick Rose.

Yep.