If UK and Cal is involved, I just don’t want to see the lame excuses we laughed at UL fans about. Rouge parents, rouge assistants. If UK is involved, fire everyone from AD to coach and start over. You know these coaches knew and you’re being blindly loyal if you aren’t even a little nervous with this report. I sure as hell hope we come out of this unscathed.
Corruption Scandal/FBI
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If people don't think that this isn't a direct correlation to all of the sudden last few years Cal cant get the top guys then I don't know what to tell you.
Cal changed nothing in his recruiting style or approach. Some other variable was in place......we now know why.
Hopefully at the end of all this when programs are shattered we are the one top dog still standing.
Cal changed nothing in his recruiting style or approach. Some other variable was in place......we now know why.
Hopefully at the end of all this when programs are shattered we are the one top dog still standing.
Duke being private or public has nothing to do with this situation. It only makes them immune to the open records laws used by the media to get sensitive documents. However, if this turns out to be what people are saying it is, the NCAA is not going to need to do a lot of investigation. They will have the smoking gun, who paid the player, who authorized it, etc.
Found the Vegas odds: Michigan State, Villanova, Virginia and Duke are the favorites to win this year’s title (of course I realize how unpredictable the tournament is).
https://www.sbnation.com/odds/2018/...s-2018-michigan-state-villanova-virginia-duke
https://www.sbnation.com/odds/2018/...s-2018-michigan-state-villanova-virginia-duke
The FBI's investigation is within the last year. If we are involved somehow, it's not a former player, it's a current player or commited recruit.
I think we know how this plays out. Duke and UNC escape with a slap on the wrist and the rest of college basketball gets hammered. Not sure why we are getting our hopes up. Duke is untouchable and UNC just got away with 20+ years of fake classes.
From the article -"As witnesses paint a picture of the depths of corruption in the basketball underworld, the feds need to make a decision whether they want to expose other sneaker companies, agents and coaches."
So from this statement it makes is sound like this is still confined to Adidas schools. Does this mean the rest are safe for now??
So from this statement it makes is sound like this is still confined to Adidas schools. Does this mean the rest are safe for now??
It almost has to be. They mention Hall Of Fame coaches and lottery picks. Yes, that could mean Calipari.. but our recruiting has been down and this article is talking about current lottery picks.
Who are these witnesses and what did they witness? Do the feds just walk away and say it is not worth our time? do the feds say "hey NCAA here is the evidence if you want it" or just put it in a filing cabinet somewhere. The more people who tell this story the for fragmented it becomes.
Totally surprised by your tone on this. A real shocker.
You do realize that there are many branches of the FBI and I am pretty sure there are offices in every state. not like this is a 6 man operation and everything else goes on hold.
Very good point.
Doesn't stop a "witness" from giving up the goods on transactions past the last year or so.
You can go argue with yourself....either they are competent or they are not. They couldnt even track the IP address of a kid who used his own name on a Youtube post threatening to shoot up his school. Apparently they are a 6 man operation if they couldnt find a kid who any 12-yo could have found with a fraction of the resources at their disposal. Maybe they should send the 6 men tracking shoe company involvement over to find school shooters.
I'm really not sure why but I think even FBI folks will be bias & not throw Duke Coach K under the bus if there's anyway not to....unless the lead investigator is not an ACC crony or even better a UK fan. 
Anymore, even if we are involved, then it’s not like we are an exception. If there are scores of other programs involved then the impact on us will be lessened. Sure there will be a ton of I told you so’s from our rivals but we can point the finger right back at them too. It wouldn’t be like we went rouge doing it. It just reveals the culture of a college basketball in general.
I would be lying if I said I weren't concerned! The prospect of Kentucky involved in something like this makes me queasy... I just hate that we are all three descriptors, blue blood, multiple lottery picks, and a HOF coach as well!
I have invested just like all of you have, so much emotion and time and effort into Kentucky Basketball and I truly hope that we come out of this unscathed. College Basketball is about to change forever, and I love to see Kentucky and Calipari finally make the haters and their allegations eat crow! My dream is for UNC and Duke to get stone aged, and us come out looking flawless.
I know with the NCAA there is about as much chance of that happening as their is for us to hit 10+ threes in a game this season, but hey I can dream right?
I have invested just like all of you have, so much emotion and time and effort into Kentucky Basketball and I truly hope that we come out of this unscathed. College Basketball is about to change forever, and I love to see Kentucky and Calipari finally make the haters and their allegations eat crow! My dream is for UNC and Duke to get stone aged, and us come out looking flawless.
I know with the NCAA there is about as much chance of that happening as their is for us to hit 10+ threes in a game this season, but hey I can dream right?
The nba created this fiasco by forcing kids to college for a year
Kicked this post up to show people how you need to watch whose posts that you like and commend. This guy is a troll that bashes our fans and is currently harrassing one of the best posters on our board. All of the people that commended this clown needs to delete what they posted. Embarrassing to let a troll have 70 likes on a thread degrading our team.
I meant what I typed actually. People were praising that guy for his post. Replying with "post of the year" and crap like that.
Nah started with UCLA in the 60s. I think though the massive fraud that the fbi is investigating is different than just paying players and started more recently.
Congrats you just "nominated" a post by an admitted UNC troll degrading our team.
Thats funny and well spoken. We stink. I can only laugh at this point.
He’s a self admitted UNC troll, just so ya know.
I nominated gspot for making me laugh shut up. I do want a refund if we paid any of these guys.
All those UNC fans who have been bitching about Roy not landing the elite recruits might soon be thanking him for not landing the elite recruits.
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Absolutely right. Hell, the FBI couldn't even figure out if Hilary Clinton was guilty or just swamp ooze stupid.
Spica Orbit
No. This was their deal with the devil to keep kids from going the overseas route.
Yes I think it goes that high. That's why kids like Ayton and Bagley were cleared with no issue when there's no way either should be eligible.
Nike. Duke. NCAA. They're all in this.
Sorry if someone has already said it......
Was listening to Matt Jones yesterday. Twice recently he’s said something and I thought, “good point”. Maybe I’m getting old. Anyway, according to him Andy Miller and Cal don’t like each other and don’t do business together. Cal thinks Miller steers kids to other schools. Jones said Nerlens is the only UK kid to sign with Miller, and he dropped Miller after a year. So, felt better after hearing that. That just leaves the other direct evidence the FBI has, the 4,000 intercepted calls. My guess is those calls were to and from the same group of people, the people surrounding Miller - in which case we should feel as good as you could in this situation, for the same reason.....
Was listening to Matt Jones yesterday. Twice recently he’s said something and I thought, “good point”. Maybe I’m getting old. Anyway, according to him Andy Miller and Cal don’t like each other and don’t do business together. Cal thinks Miller steers kids to other schools. Jones said Nerlens is the only UK kid to sign with Miller, and he dropped Miller after a year. So, felt better after hearing that. That just leaves the other direct evidence the FBI has, the 4,000 intercepted calls. My guess is those calls were to and from the same group of people, the people surrounding Miller - in which case we should feel as good as you could in this situation, for the same reason.....
Not shocking. Compared to about the first forty years of my life, we've become a lawless society bent on doing our own thing. Me. Me. Me. Anyone from judges to politicians to local governments who don't follow federal laws, etc, etc. I'm not so cynical as I am pretty good at seeing the differences in today as opposed to what happened only a few years ago. People cannot drive the speed limit. They can't signal. They can't even do something as simple as stopping for a red light. People will steal you blind without a moment's consideration for the business owner. Today, at Costco, I witnessed a pet peave...a woman pitched an unwanted garment on top of the items in the bakery. She proved she had no respect for fellow patrons, and certainly no respect for Costco. She was simply too damn lazy to walk her fat *** 10 yards to put the item back where she originally got it. I see almost every visit to the YMCA people leaving a slime trail of bottles, towels, shorts dropped in the locker room floor while they shower (PIGS), and mega amounts of curly hair also in the locker room floor. It's sickening to see what pigs we have become and how society has been degraded by subhuman behavior. Then, to beat all, you have this resistance movement by these butthurt, crying-*** babies who can't get over the election. People like Lindsey Vonn who makes unsolicited disparaging comments about the president. All the while she and her ilk are disrespecting the office, the election result, and our president. Julie Foudy wonders how we can be so vile to root against her--hell, that's easy, and vile and violent is what she and others have done throughout since the election. How can Julie Foudy lecture anyone on violence and hatred for not rooting for Lindsey Vonn when the far left has been doing that since November 2016? Makes no sense except that their heads are not screwed on toght enough--brains don't work when you're biased, bigoted, and affected by an outcome that YOU LOST. Many in our world--and I'm not down on dems because not all are bad and some republicans ARE bad...many in our world are not thinking of others and doing whatever they please. It's a contributor to these shootings. No discipline in schools. Sanctuary cities? What a joke. But, I speak Spanish (major at UK) and have great respect for our Mexican neighbors--they deserve a strong US partnership and a fair and humane solution to immigration. Teachers disrespected. Shameful behavior. I challenge all to be better citizens.
