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brianpoe

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Nailed it. Calipari needs to do what he was hired to do...win basketball games/championships at UK. On the surface he's done that but he's slipped in recent years, time to turn that around. As for the staff, keep KP and dump the rest.

Agree with this post and especially the staff portion.


The winning games part is simply not accurate.

Last few seasons:

2017 Elite Eight, record of 32-6 top 6 finish and a last second shot and screw job from another final four.

2016 2nd round 27-9

2015 Final Four 38-1

2014 Title Game 29-11


Winning games has been happening, we needed one shot to miss and win 2 more games to win it all in 17, win 2 more games in 15 for the title, and simply win one game in 14 to win the title.....
 
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Chapman123

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Exactly. How can you blame a family for wanting their kid to go to Harvard or Yale or Duke. Some of our fans are delusional.
Exactly my thoughts ..Duke is a damn good school and to be able to say you went there and/or put that on any resume or business venture says a lot. Dont let your fandom get in the way of reality.

Academically you have a spectrum. You can uses the Louisville-duke meter. UofL is the lowest and Duke is pretty damn high
 

jameslee32

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The winning games part is simply not accurate.

Last few seasons:

2017 Elite Eight, record of 32-6 top 6 finish and a last second shot and screw job from another final four.

2016 2nd round 27-9

2015 Final Four 38-1

2014 Title Game 29-11


Winning games has been happening, we needed one shot to miss and win 2 more games to win it all in 17, win 2 more games in 15 for the title, and simply win one game in 14 to win the title.....
Only at Kentucky is 14-5 Armageddon.
 
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brianpoe

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Duke ranks No. 9, nationally, in U. S. News & World Report's rankings of Best Colleges and Universities. U.K. ranks No. 133 on the same list.

Some kids and their families really care a lot about that.

Just sayin'.

Exactly. How can you blame a family for wanting their kid to go to Harvard or Yale or Duke. Some of our fans are delusional.


I do not discount the prestige of Duke one ounce, no matter how laughable it may be for those players who could not get eligibile at Morehead State that are suited up for the Blue Devils this season.
 

CHAMPCAT11

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it took 12 seconds to read a couple of your recent posts to learn that you are one of the stupid ones, good luck with that.

You’ve got 3000 posts and about 140 likes. If labeling me as stupid makes you feel good then good for you. Maybe someday you’ll learn how to post. From the things you post I doubt it. Pretty pathetic.
 

carolinacat

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Duke ranks No. 9, nationally, in U. S. News & World Report's rankings of Best Colleges and Universities. U.K. ranks No. 133 on the same list.

Some kids and their families really care a lot about that.

Just sayin'.
I seriously doubt that it matters if you're only attending school for one year.
 

efudexto

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First let's let go of the Calipari hot seat talk. There are only a handful of coaches today who can coach here, most of those are already at blue bloods or programs they aren't leaving. Anyone we hired would be a risk at this point, Cal is still one of the only sure bets. 8 years, 4 final fours, title. At the end of the day it is what it is. I think everyone should cool it on that and think. We aren't there yet.

This board has had this coming. For over two years there have been posters trying to say exactly what we are witnessing. I'm no insider, but I was hearing Cal is having trouble with these recruits for a while, and that was coming from the AAU circuit where I'm from. I am friends with a few coaches and participated on the circuit in a small role in the late 2000's. Not one are surprised with our position as of this morning.

Kentucky's gamble backfired, and for those that think these players do not care about college and winning, you just got your first shot to the gut. Not every recruit will look past success (Bamba), and it doesn't matter how good they are. Real winners want to win regardless of anything else. K is selling that, Kentucky is selling the Lakers. When it was evident that pitch was no longer working, we turned to insanity. Just keep doing it.

Kentucky has more to offer than Duke, we have an entire state behind our program with vast resources and connections that is much deeper with a richer and older tradition. Why Cal decided he didn't need to use that, I don't know. We have promoted a very self centered environment and it's turned people off. Kids leave when they have no business leaving, our roster thinned out, top kids that wanted to win and be a part of something special didn't see it at UK. Others like Kennard were afraid they'd be pushed out early. We need a slight culture change, at least curve it.

I know it's hard for some to swallow that, we've got several who just simply couldn't comprehend a world where a kid would choose another option other than money and individual greed. They can both work together, equally. Just like skilled basketball players and talent. They can work together equally. Cal went all in toward one direction. Big mistake.

Recruit to UK, explain the history and what you want to accomplish for the program, they already know you won't hold them back if they're ready. The 20189 class wanted to win, they didn't need Cal to get them to the NBA. And if that's not important, Cal is useless compared to others right now. He spends little time recruiting "UK".

Nike is a huge problem, and again some have been expressing this for sometime. Our assistants have to go, or at least a total shakeup. I'm now on board with Barbee's exit. He cannot handle his position. Also It's my personal opinion that our compliance is and has been a problem. But that's a topic for another day.

Calipari is more than capable of becoming a college coach again, and I do say again because think he quit doing that when he came to Kentucky (somewhat). Cal was excellent at evaluation, and I think it's evident at this point that he's stopped evaluating as he once did. Throw away the top 25 rankings, pick up a note pad, and get out there recruiting. You can still sign top players.

I've people I consider friends on this board, and Im telling you guys, fans care more about the program than Cals record. They are beginning to look past the accomplishments because they feel that Kentucky has become an afterthought and that the program is becoming disrespected. There is a reason the fans appreciate and remember 1992 more than championship teams. I sometimes think Cal doesn't understand that, and I think a minority of our fans don't either.

Cal can get this right. He has a legacy at UK with a winning record to recruit with. Start recruiting Calipari, Kentucky, and family as much as the next level; the next level is just the next goal. Talk about the goal they are chasing today, college basketball.

That's what I got. I love Calipari and feel terrible for him right now. He needs our support more than he's ever needed it. I'm sure he's pissed at several issues surrounding the past few years, probably more than us. All great coaches ADJUST. All great coaches had bad stretches and made changes. If Cal is who we think he is, a GOAT, he will follow suit.

I don't think I've stopped drinking since yesterday at 5.
I absolutely agree. Time to stop being a glorified aau program and appreciate pur history and what it means to put on the uniform. Time to start playing to win, whats best for the team and not the possible draft position. That being said, i agree its not time, i think he adjusts and has another really good to great team, but i also feel like within 4 to years Cal will be finished at UK no matter what happens. Possibly as soon as 2 or 3. Its hard to say by that time who would come in next, but i think there are a few names that will be possible options by that time. yesterday sucked, but all bleed blue until the day I die and know we will be back.
 

kyjeff1

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Then what happens if Cal doesn't give you what you want?
Yes, what happens if Cal doesn't make changes to his coaching staff, continues to miss on all stud recruits and we still have a mass exodus every year? 10 loss seasons will be the norm if that happens.
We all know Cal is stubborn, so I don't hold out much hope for changes.
I don't know about you guys, but all these top recruits avoiding UK like the plague, is disturbing to me.
 

jameslee32

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Yes, what happens if Cal doesn't make changes to his coaching staff, continues to miss on all stud recruits and we still have a mass exodus every year? 10 loss seasons will be the norm if that happens.
We all know Cal is stubborn, so I don't hold out much hope for changes.
I don't know about you guys, but all these top recruits avoiding UK like the plague, is disturbing to me.
But he's had his team in contention in March also if that matters anymore. As much or more than K if you compare the results. When we lose to the Mercer's and Lehigh's, maybe he'll consider it. Otherwise I agree and don't expect much in the way of change in the big picture.
 

carolinacat

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I'm probably the worst guy to comment on recruiting because I just don't follow it much. I know our classes are rated highly, but I don't get excited or bummed out until I see them play a few games. Seems like we're still doing pretty well with the exception of Duke. Maybe Capel is outworking our guys...maybe it's the perceived "prestige" of the vaunted ACC vs. a football conference like the SEC (that's changing slowly though). Maybe Cal needs to change his tactics or up his game in terms of player evaluation. Maybe he needs to be less of a drama queen on the sidelines (I'm a little tired of that act). I think that's counter productive with some players and teams. Other the picking a few nits, I support Cal 100% and am glad he's our coach and hope he stays as long as he wants.

I don't believe Duke is cheating as some on this board have stated....doubt that K would throw away his legacy for another final four or NC (See Rick Pitino). People that throw that shade without facts are no different from the legions of people who've accused Cal of the same thing (with no evidence).
 

Untouchables22

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Seriously, I always wondered how Duke got some of these players eligible with the high academic standards the university has. I know that Notre Dame had problems with the same issues regarding academics.
Notre Dame famously doesn't lower academic requirements for athletes at all...the same standards apply to everybody (it's easier to get in then a regular student but you must meet the same benchmarks)....Duke has far different standards for athletes then regular students for admittance.
 

gojvc

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Remember when the Cats fired Tubby? The media had a field day talking about how racist Kentucky fans are. Well, any talk of getting rid of Cal should prove one thing, our fans are not racist, they are just stupid.
UK did not fire Tubby.
 

Dr. H Lecter

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Apr 5, 2007
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Exactly, its all about athletics for these kids... thanks for making my point.

And see my post above regarding Duke's prestige.
Your point is one with which I disagree. You are broad brush saying that an athlete cannot care about academics. That is reckless.
 

Dr. H Lecter

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Notre Dame famously doesn't lower academic requirements for athletes at all...the same standards apply to everybody (it's easier to get in then a regular student but you must meet the same benchmarks)....Duke has far different standards for athletes then regular students for admittance.
Yep. The ACC is the standard setter.
 

Untouchables22

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First let's let go of the Calipari hot seat talk. There are only a handful of coaches today who can coach here, most of those are already at blue bloods or programs they aren't leaving. Anyone we hired would be a risk at this point, Cal is still one of the only sure bets. 8 years, 4 final fours, title. At the end of the day it is what it is. I think everyone should cool it on that and think. We aren't there yet.

This board has had this coming. For over two years there have been posters trying to say exactly what we are witnessing. I'm no insider, but I was hearing Cal is having trouble with these recruits for a while, and that was coming from the AAU circuit where I'm from. I am friends with a few coaches and participated on the circuit in a small role in the late 2000's. Not one are surprised with our position as of this morning.

Kentucky's gamble backfired, and for those that think these players do not care about college and winning, you just got your first shot to the gut. Not every recruit will look past success (Bamba), and it doesn't matter how good they are. Real winners want to win regardless of anything else. K is selling that, Kentucky is selling the Lakers. When it was evident that pitch was no longer working, we turned to insanity. Just keep doing it.

Kentucky has more to offer than Duke, we have an entire state behind our program with vast resources and connections that is much deeper with a richer and older tradition. Why Cal decided he didn't need to use that, I don't know. We have promoted a very self centered environment and it's turned people off. Kids leave when they have no business leaving, our roster thinned out, top kids that wanted to win and be a part of something special didn't see it at UK. Others like Kennard were afraid they'd be pushed out early. We need a slight culture change, at least curve it.

I know it's hard for some to swallow that, we've got several who just simply couldn't comprehend a world where a kid would choose another option other than money and individual greed. They can both work together, equally. Just like skilled basketball players and talent. They can work together equally. Cal went all in toward one direction. Big mistake.

Recruit to UK, explain the history and what you want to accomplish for the program, they already know you won't hold them back if they're ready. The 20189 class wanted to win, they didn't need Cal to get them to the NBA. And if that's not important, Cal is useless compared to others right now. He spends little time recruiting "UK".

Nike is a huge problem, and again some have been expressing this for sometime. Our assistants have to go, or at least a total shakeup. I'm now on board with Barbee's exit. He cannot handle his position. Also It's my personal opinion that our compliance is and has been a problem. But that's a topic for another day.

Calipari is more than capable of becoming a college coach again, and I do say again because think he quit doing that when he came to Kentucky (somewhat). Cal was excellent at evaluation, and I think it's evident at this point that he's stopped evaluating as he once did. Throw away the top 25 rankings, pick up a note pad, and get out there recruiting. You can still sign top players.

I've people I consider friends on this board, and Im telling you guys, fans care more about the program than Cals record. They are beginning to look past the accomplishments because they feel that Kentucky has become an afterthought and that the program is becoming disrespected. There is a reason the fans appreciate and remember 1992 more than championship teams. I sometimes think Cal doesn't understand that, and I think a minority of our fans don't either.

Cal can get this right. He has a legacy at UK with a winning record to recruit with. Start recruiting Calipari, Kentucky, and family as much as the next level; the next level is just the next goal. Talk about the goal they are chasing today, college basketball.

That's what I got. I love Calipari and feel terrible for him right now. He needs our support more than he's ever needed it. I'm sure he's pissed at several issues surrounding the past few years, probably more than us. All great coaches ADJUST. All great coaches had bad stretches and made changes. If Cal is who we think he is, a GOAT, he will follow suit.

I don't think I've stopped drinking since yesterday at 5.
The infuriating thing is Zion said "brotherhood" 15 times in that press conference...but if you actually read articles about the NBA it's the Kentucky guys who always get together after games and support each other. They mentor each other, come back to UK in the summers and play with each other and even go to each other wedding's. It's clear NBA players that went to UK have an actual brotherhood and the Duke players not so much. Just read the Liggins interview about his time in New Orleans with the other UK guys once he got there. And if you want to talk about teams while they are in college I'm pretty sure Duke had "team turmoil" behind the scenes all of last year and everybody hated each other.
 
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UKCAT5FAN

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First let's let go of the Calipari hot seat talk. There are only a handful of coaches today who can coach here, most of those are already at blue bloods or programs they aren't leaving. Anyone we hired would be a risk at this point, Cal is still one of the only sure bets. 8 years, 4 final fours, title. At the end of the day it is what it is. I think everyone should cool it on that and think. We aren't there yet.

This board has had this coming. For over two years there have been posters trying to say exactly what we are witnessing. I'm no insider, but I was hearing Cal is having trouble with these recruits for a while, and that was coming from the AAU circuit where I'm from. I am friends with a few coaches and participated on the circuit in a small role in the late 2000's. Not one are surprised with our position as of this morning.

Kentucky's gamble backfired, and for those that think these players do not care about college and winning, you just got your first shot to the gut. Not every recruit will look past success (Bamba), and it doesn't matter how good they are. Real winners want to win regardless of anything else. K is selling that, Kentucky is selling the Lakers. When it was evident that pitch was no longer working, we turned to insanity. Just keep doing it.

Kentucky has more to offer than Duke, we have an entire state behind our program with vast resources and connections that is much deeper with a richer and older tradition. Why Cal decided he didn't need to use that, I don't know. We have promoted a very self centered environment and it's turned people off. Kids leave when they have no business leaving, our roster thinned out, top kids that wanted to win and be a part of something special didn't see it at UK. Others like Kennard were afraid they'd be pushed out early. We need a slight culture change, at least curve it.

I know it's hard for some to swallow that, we've got several who just simply couldn't comprehend a world where a kid would choose another option other than money and individual greed. They can both work together, equally. Just like skilled basketball players and talent. They can work together equally. Cal went all in toward one direction. Big mistake.

Recruit to UK, explain the history and what you want to accomplish for the program, they already know you won't hold them back if they're ready. The 20189 class wanted to win, they didn't need Cal to get them to the NBA. And if that's not important, Cal is useless compared to others right now. He spends little time recruiting "UK".

Nike is a huge problem, and again some have been expressing this for sometime. Our assistants have to go, or at least a total shakeup. I'm now on board with Barbee's exit. He cannot handle his position. Also It's my personal opinion that our compliance is and has been a problem. But that's a topic for another day.

Calipari is more than capable of becoming a college coach again, and I do say again because think he quit doing that when he came to Kentucky (somewhat). Cal was excellent at evaluation, and I think it's evident at this point that he's stopped evaluating as he once did. Throw away the top 25 rankings, pick up a note pad, and get out there recruiting. You can still sign top players.

I've people I consider friends on this board, and Im telling you guys, fans care more about the program than Cals record. They are beginning to look past the accomplishments because they feel that Kentucky has become an afterthought and that the program is becoming disrespected. There is a reason the fans appreciate and remember 1992 more than championship teams. I sometimes think Cal doesn't understand that, and I think a minority of our fans don't either.

Cal can get this right. He has a legacy at UK with a winning record to recruit with. Start recruiting Calipari, Kentucky, and family as much as the next level; the next level is just the next goal. Talk about the goal they are chasing today, college basketball.

That's what I got. I love Calipari and feel terrible for him right now. He needs our support more than he's ever needed it. I'm sure he's pissed at several issues surrounding the past few years, probably more than us. All great coaches ADJUST. All great coaches had bad stretches and made changes. If Cal is who we think he is, a GOAT, he will follow suit.

I don't think I've stopped drinking since yesterday at 5.

Well said! What do you think the issue is with our compliance? Just curious. Too strict? You think they're not going after some recruits because of it? I know they're strict because of Cal's past and the knowledge that many would love to hang us up. What do you think the issue Is?
 

FrankUnderwood

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I think I part that is why Tubby struggled to recruit besides being lazy. Player came because of Cal. Players go to NBA because of Cal....but suddenly the flow of players is slowing down....has the Cal-effect worn Off?

Well, I mean Cal is still th 2nd best recruiter in the nation so he may not be killing it like he once was it’s a bit ridiculous to use terms like “players came” (past tense ?) or insinuate he can’t recruit anymore
 
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kyjeff1

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But he's had his team in contention in March also if that matters anymore. As much or more than K if you compare the results. When we lose to the Mercer's and Lehigh's, maybe he'll consider it. Otherwise I agree and don't expect much in the way of change in the big picture.
This feels different. All the final fours and the 2012 title all had 1 thing in common, studs. We aren't getting those studs now.
 

UKWildcatT

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Well said! What do you think the issue is with our compliance? Just curious. Too strict? You think they're not going after some recruits because of it? I know they're strict because of Cal's past and the knowledge that many would love to hang us up. What do you think the issue Is?

I’ve seen morgousky say she’s wayyyyy too strict. It does become a liability when a school like dUKe is CLEARY playing in the grey area now
 
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UKWildcatT

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This feels different. All the final fours and the 2012 title all had 1 thing in common, studs. We aren't getting those studs now.

There’s definitely a shift in momentum now. You have to have serious blue tint glassss if you think it hasn’t.

Like others have said: if you play the one and done game, you HAVE to get studs in that “get it” pretty quickly
 
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Notre Dame famously doesn't lower academic requirements for athletes at all...the same standards apply to everybody (it's easier to get in then a regular student but you must meet the same benchmarks)....Duke has far different standards for athletes then regular students for admittance.
I knew that Notre Dame didn't lower standards but was wondering about Duke.
 

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First let's let go of the Calipari hot seat talk. There are only a handful of coaches today who can coach here, most of those are already at blue bloods or programs they aren't leaving. Anyone we hired would be a risk at this point, Cal is still one of the only sure bets. 8 years, 4 final fours, title. At the end of the day it is what it is. I think everyone should cool it on that and think. We aren't there yet.

This board has had this coming. For over two years there have been posters trying to say exactly what we are witnessing. I'm no insider, but I was hearing Cal is having trouble with these recruits for a while, and that was coming from the AAU circuit where I'm from. I am friends with a few coaches and participated on the circuit in a small role in the late 2000's. Not one are surprised with our position as of this morning.

Kentucky's gamble backfired, and for those that think these players do not care about college and winning, you just got your first shot to the gut. Not every recruit will look past success (Bamba), and it doesn't matter how good they are. Real winners want to win regardless of anything else. K is selling that, Kentucky is selling the Lakers. When it was evident that pitch was no longer working, we turned to insanity. Just keep doing it.

Kentucky has more to offer than Duke, we have an entire state behind our program with vast resources and connections that is much deeper with a richer and older tradition. Why Cal decided he didn't need to use that, I don't know. We have promoted a very self centered environment and it's turned people off. Kids leave when they have no business leaving, our roster thinned out, top kids that wanted to win and be a part of something special didn't see it at UK. Others like Kennard were afraid they'd be pushed out early. We need a slight culture change, at least curve it.

I know it's hard for some to swallow that, we've got several who just simply couldn't comprehend a world where a kid would choose another option other than money and individual greed. They can both work together, equally. Just like skilled basketball players and talent. They can work together equally. Cal went all in toward one direction. Big mistake.

Recruit to UK, explain the history and what you want to accomplish for the program, they already know you won't hold them back if they're ready. The 20189 class wanted to win, they didn't need Cal to get them to the NBA. And if that's not important, Cal is useless compared to others right now. He spends little time recruiting "UK".

Nike is a huge problem, and again some have been expressing this for sometime. Our assistants have to go, or at least a total shakeup. I'm now on board with Barbee's exit. He cannot handle his position. Also It's my personal opinion that our compliance is and has been a problem. But that's a topic for another day.

Calipari is more than capable of becoming a college coach again, and I do say again because think he quit doing that when he came to Kentucky (somewhat). Cal was excellent at evaluation, and I think it's evident at this point that he's stopped evaluating as he once did. Throw away the top 25 rankings, pick up a note pad, and get out there recruiting. You can still sign top players.

I've people I consider friends on this board, and Im telling you guys, fans care more about the program than Cals record. They are beginning to look past the accomplishments because they feel that Kentucky has become an afterthought and that the program is becoming disrespected. There is a reason the fans appreciate and remember 1992 more than championship teams. I sometimes think Cal doesn't understand that, and I think a minority of our fans don't either.

Cal can get this right. He has a legacy at UK with a winning record to recruit with. Start recruiting Calipari, Kentucky, and family as much as the next level; the next level is just the next goal. Talk about the goal they are chasing today, college basketball.

That's what I got. I love Calipari and feel terrible for him right now. He needs our support more than he's ever needed it. I'm sure he's pissed at several issues surrounding the past few years, probably more than us. All great coaches ADJUST. All great coaches had bad stretches and made changes. If Cal is who we think he is, a GOAT, he will follow suit.

I don't think I've stopped drinking since yesterday at 5.

Very unbiased, thought out, shot from the hip post. I hope all this will compel Cal to take a short walk to a mirror where he'll see the man who will make or break him. His perception of the man will determine the outcome. The man is the mirror is the messenger of his destiny.
 

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Keep living in that fantastic land.

I bet you and the Ashley Judd dude would get along fairly well.

Obviously didn't read the post. You all are still not quite understanding what was being said. Farthest from a liberal, just stating what I have observed and know
 

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The recent coup of recruits going to pUKe is Capel...he is more relatable to this recent group of Kids. Face it, UK has a huge negative, fanbase. Parents of these kids want two things, security and success.
A lot of these kid's parents are savvy and tech friendly. Our fans still live in the past while the rest of the country is up to date.
Recent snafus reveal a very small part of our fanbase, but their actions speak louder than our collective cheers.
This is a program that Rupp built. As great as he was, he still have some negatively associated with him. Our fanbase cannibalized one of our own, Ashley Judd. The remarks that were made about her we're not only horrible, racist, and downright sexist. For a lot of these parents who are aware of social justice as well as being apart of said movements, we still have a fanbase that proudly stands by Confederate flags. People may say that parents, recruits never check out the msg boards but if my child's future is involved...
I've been coming to this site for years, it's steadily progressed to one of negativity. Everyday in posts you see language that is questionable, use of monikers in place of racist terms, ie thugs..and now shitholes. Is a perfect example.
The most telling response from ZION, was 'joining a Brotherhood'...if you can't see what that really says, well, I see now what Capel is doing behind closed doors.
Food for thought. This is taking into events in the past year and the current state of America.
Ashley judd cannibalized her self with here liberal insanity
 

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Exactly my thoughts ..Duke is a damn good school and to be able to say you went there and/or put that on any resume or business venture says a lot. Dont let your fandom get in the way of reality.

Academically you have a spectrum. You can uses the Louisville-duke meter. UofL is the lowest and Duke is pretty damn high
And going there for one year is meaningless
 

UKCAT5FAN

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I’ve seen morgousky say she’s wayyyyy too strict. It does become a liability when a school like dUKe is CLEARY playing in the grey area now


Yeah, I can see that being a problem. I think she is very "thorough" and can see how that could be an issue but with the hounds put that would love to hang Cal, I'm somewhat ok with it Maybe not as strict but she's got to be somewhat strict with everyone out to get us.
 

jameslee32

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This feels different. All the final fours and the 2012 title all had 1 thing in common, studs. We aren't getting those studs now.
Well that's part of it but I would contend it's having studs play defense and play smart. We have had more than enough studs when compared to the eventual champions. Here's it's a matter of them getting it in 1 or 2 years because otherwise, they're outta here even if it's a Goodwin, Ulis, Skal or Briscoe.
 

kevcat

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Ashley judd cannibalized her self with here liberal insanity
 
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Need a coach that is into winning titles. Not one interested in draft titles. He has hypnotized a faction of our fan base to listen to his sales schtick. Gig is up.

Spot on. Several in this very thread are under said hyptonization. I call it brainwashed.

OP's post discussed how Cal himself got carried away with "getting kids to the pros" and this being the main focus. He discussed how Cal drifted from citing UK's illustrious history while recruiting and instead made it all about NBA. OP himself said that this has backfired royally. Yet we still have posters in this very thread, brainwashed poster of course, wanting to thrust the blame on the assistants. "Fire all the assistants" they are saying.

OP nailed it in both giving Cal credit for his successes and also putting blame on Cal for the state of affairs as it stands today. NO ONE wants Cal fired. He is THE MAN for the job. But he is in part to blame. Some of you brainwashed fans need to realize this and accept it. Cal made UK an NBA factory. I don't care if God himself says otherwise, Cal put "getting kids into the pros" over UK. He did. It was with good intentions but it backfired. Time to revamp. We'll see how much Cal cares about winning and being the best.
 
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Spot on. Several in this very thread are under said hyptonization. I call it brainwashed.

OP's post discussed how Cal himself got carried away with "getting kids to the pros" and this being the main focus. He discussed how Cal drifted from citing UK's illustrious history while recruiting and instead made it all about NBA. OP himself said that this has backfired royally. Yet we still have posters in this very thread, brainwashed poster of course, wanting to thrust the blame on the assistants. "Fire all the assistants" they are saying.

OP nailed it in both giving Cal credit for his successes and also putting blame on Cal for the state of affairs as it stands today. NO ONE wants Cal fired. He is THE MAN for the job. But he is in part to blame. Some of you brainwashed fans need to realize this and accept it. Cal made UK an NBA factory. I don't care if God himself says otherwise, Cal put "getting kids into the pros" over UK. He did. It was with good intentions but it backfired. Time to revamp. We'll see how much Cal cares about winning and being the best.



Agreeing with a known troll like Kodak will get you a ton of credibility...

By the way what was your last username?
 
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