Jerry Eaves radio comments

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I did not know much about him until today . Very honest and courageous guy.
He just rode UL the riot act. Said they were lucky the NCAA did not give them the death penalty because of a very obvious case of LOIC.
Said Jurich was not doing his job. That Jurich had given UL a "thug lite" image that if I Understood the word right. That Jurich would never criticize a coach who was winning and what would u have to do to be fired at UL?

I can't r call all of it but stronger words could not have come from a UK Fan . And he played for them.

One other thing he said was the appeal was a joke and a very bad mistake. Keeping the story alive, throwing good money after bad and risking further penalties.
 

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No the first time he's been outspokenly critical of the current UL athletics regime.

I may not be entirely correct on this, but I think there's a sizeable portion of Denny's former players who are not enamored at all with Jurich and how he treated Denny. I think JE is in this camp.
 

wildcatdon

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Jurich is nothing but a criminal and deserves to be in jail next to Ramsey..How he still has a job is a testament to the morally bankrupt ******** that run that institution..
Students paying higher tuition and teachers not getting raises and Jurich and Ramsey are stealing from the endowment to line their own pockets and business goes on as usual at ******** U. Just unreal.
 

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Jurich has never done his job except to be a mobster style ruler of Louisville. He thought he was untouchable like most mobsters believe.

That's why I think he has supported Pitino so much. I have a feeling Rick knows more about the foundation, or has benefited from their corrupt Foundation Scheme and is too much of a liability to ever get rid of. They will go down in flames together.
 

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Many of your younger fans don't even know who Denny Crum was. Only that his name is on the court. Crum built that program. Crum left UCLA to come to UL to be their head coach. Won two NCAAT titles there at UL, which is two more now than Porntino did for UL. UCLA tried to get Crum to come back more than once but he said no. Denny has more class in his little finger than Porntino has in his whole body.
 

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Interesting as unlike many here I am not off the deep-end typically regarding RP or UL. I never will respect RP for what he did in going to UL and love when we beat them, but I don't have quite the emotions some have about them. So, at first without reading the details of the recruit testimony, I felt the punishment made sense. However, now I don't. They should have gotten the death penalty and to appeal anything that the NCAA actually gifted them with I think should result in even harsher penalties. The NCAA gave them no more other season bans,they get to move on this upcoming season, etc?
I know we have a double standard with teenage boys versus girls involving sex. But, to put the young recruits into the compromising and peer pressure situations they faced is disgusting. Some of these kids might have held or been taught religious values, or had someone even at that age they wanted to be faithful toward, or even perhaps not ready or with no experience (and at that age none of us ever wanted to admit to that) and be put into that pressured situation to convince them to come to UL actually seems criminal.
 

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I have been wondering if the NCAA is allowed to levy harsher penalties as UL goes through the appeals process.

Is anyone sure about how this works?
 

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That question was asked at their press conference and the answer is no they cannot levy worse pro
 
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I have been wondering if the NCAA is allowed to levy harsher penalties as UL goes through the appeals process.

Is anyone sure about how this works?
Here is (I think) the relevant bylaw - part (b) in particular. I suppose the committee could be incensed by this, even more offended than the COI (which did say it was "light" on Louisville, meaning went easy on them) and remand this back to the COI with instructions that make it hard for them to do anything but come down even harder. But my guess is the vast majority of the time, they either affirm or reverse.


19.4.5 Authority of Committee. The Infractions Appeals Committee shall: (Adopted: 1/16/93, Revised:

1/10/95, 1/14/97, 11/1/07 effective 8/1/08, 10/30/12 effective 8/1/13)

(a) Consider appeals from decisions of a hearing panel of the Committee on Infractions involving Level I or Level II violations;

(b) Affirm, reverse, or vacate and/or remand the panel’s findings, conclusions, penalties, corrective actions, requirements, and/or other conditions and obligations of membership prescribed for violations of the NCAA constitution and bylaws; and

(c) Formulate and revise its operating procedures. Committee amendments to the procedures shall be effective immediately and subject to review and approval by the Board of Directors. The procedures shall include guidance on the conduct of appeal hearings.
 
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The first time I listened to his show was the afternoon the audit findings came out. Everyone should go back and listen to the podcasts of his shows this week, he and his group have just been lighting UofL up everyday. Gotta hurt card fans hearing it from one of their own, but JE has been completely reasonable and makes a perfectly clear argument to anyone who looks at their situation without red stained glasses.

He has essentially called for everyone in a leadership role heads from the athletics department to the board, to start cleaning the place up, and he has been vocal about telling everyone to shut up infront of the cameras and just take the punishment. All UofL is doing is making themselves look worse and worse.
 

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I have been wondering if the NCAA is allowed to levy harsher penalties as UL goes through the appeals process.

Is anyone sure about how this works?

The appeals committee cannot. They can only rule on the evidence and the penalty already handed down. They are basically just making sure the punishment fits by the rules, which it does. For more penalties there would need to be another investigation after new evidence.
 

Aike

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The appeals committee cannot. They can only rule on the evidence and the penalty already handed down. They are basically just making sure the punishment fits by the rules, which it does. For more penalties there would need to be another investigation after new evidence.

That's what I thought, thanks.
 
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jc2010

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No the first time he's been outspokenly critical of the current UL athletics regime.

I may not be entirely correct on this, but I think there's a sizeable portion of Denny's former players who are not enamored at all with Jurich and how he treated Denny. I think JE is in this camp.
TJ dropped Crum like a used condom, I think Denny's former players would have preferred he got to go out on his own terms.
 

morgousky

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That's what I thought, thanks.

Also, out of around 100 appeals cases over the last decade or so, I believe around 1/3 of them were reversed. And those cases were nowhere near as cut and dry as louisvilles.
 
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Aike

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Here is (I think) the relevant bylaw - part (b) in particular. I suppose the committee could be incensed by this, even more offended than the COI (which did say it was "light" on Louisville, meaning went easy on them) and remand this back to the COI with instructions that make it hard for them to do anything but come down even harder. But my guess is the vast majority of the time, they either affirm or reverse.


19.4.5 Authority of Committee. The Infractions Appeals Committee shall: (Adopted: 1/16/93, Revised:

1/10/95, 1/14/97, 11/1/07 effective 8/1/08, 10/30/12 effective 8/1/13)

(a) Consider appeals from decisions of a hearing panel of the Committee on Infractions involving Level I or Level II violations;

(b) Affirm, reverse, or vacate and/or remand the panel’s findings, conclusions, penalties, corrective actions, requirements, and/or other conditions and obligations of membership prescribed for violations of the NCAA constitution and bylaws; and

(c) Formulate and revise its operating procedures. Committee amendments to the procedures shall be effective immediately and subject to review and approval by the Board of Directors. The procedures shall include guidance on the conduct of appeal hearings.

Thanks.
 

Mike-D

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Does Eaves do a podcast? I'd love to go back and listen. Anyone know?
 

El Gato Calvo

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I did not know much about him until today . Very honest and courageous guy.
He just rode UL the riot act. Said they were lucky the NCAA did not give them the death penalty because of a very obvious case of LOIC.
Said Jurich was not doing his job. That Jurich had given UL a "thug lite" image that if I Understood the word right. That Jurich would never criticize a coach who was winning and what would u have to do to be fired at UL?

I can't r call all of it but stronger words could not have come from a UK Fan . And he played for them.

One other thing he said was the appeal was a joke and a very bad mistake. Keeping the story alive, throwing good money after bad and risking further penalties.


The man has Rick Pitino and Bobby Petrino as his two marquee sport coaches.

Does anything else need said?
 

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if UofL had even a shred of morality they would clean house and start trying to rebuild their program. But if they keep jurich and pitino they continue to look like the sleaziest program in the nation
 
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bigbluegrog

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That's why I think he has supported Pitino so much. I have a feeling Rick knows more about the foundation, or has benefited from their corrupt Foundation Scheme and is too much of a liability to ever get rid of. They will go down in flames together.
That is the problem with the entire program. Everyone knows where the bones are buried and it affects them all. So for one person to step up would mean they would have to also incriminate themselves. If you think about it - it is a brilliant strategy that has worked perfectly until Katina spilled the beans.
 
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Ugoff

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That is the problem with the entire program. Everyone knows where the bones are buried and it affects them all. So for one person to step up would mean they would have to also incriminate themselves. If you think about it - it is a brilliant strategy that has worked perfectly until Katina spilled the beans.
This is what I've been saying, although I don't know about calling it a brilliant strategy. I think it's just a giant pile of mutual corruption. I can hear Pitino just daring them to fire him. Jurich's track-stained drawers would be flapping in the breeze.
 
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ArtSmass

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This is not about allegiance to D. Crum. Jerry Eaves is a UofL guy, through and through. However, he is NOT for UofL over his principles. He has the character to separate his school loyalty and what is just plain right. Man was raised by parents who taught him that and he has stayed true to how he was raised.

I'd hope I'd be the same were the situation reversed. Winning is great...but it's not greater than your principles.
 

Chuck79

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I listen to his show on the way to work every day. Both he and Butch Beard(another UL great) have repeatedly stated that the UL athletic program currently has ZERO integrity. If UL fans really want to hear an unbiased opinion of what's going on there they need to listen to his show.
 
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Many of your younger fans don't even know who Denny Crum was. Only that his name is on the court. Crum built that program. Crum left UCLA to come to UL to be their head coach. Won two NCAAT titles there at UL, which is two more now than Porntino did for UL. UCLA tried to get Crum to come back more than once but he said no. Denny has more class in his little finger than Porntino has in his whole body.


Crum is clearly better than Jurich & Co but to say he was classy is ridiculous. He was involved in multiple NCAA investigations at UL and landed UL on at least 2 NCAA probations to my memory, Samaki Walker's cars & Nate Johnson's hotel bills, He was also caught redhanded meeting with a recruit (I can't remember his name but UK wanted him tooo) and buying him lunch during a no contact period. It was reported by the apparently unaware CJ I believe.

And good God he was a key player in UCLA's decade long paying recruits, paying for players GF's abortions, and everything else that they got by with. Anyone old enough to have been around knows that Crum was as crooked as UCLA.

Was Denny a great coach? Absolutely. Was he a cheater? Absolutely
 

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Crum is clearly better than Jurich & Co but to say he was classy is ridiculous. He was involved in multiple NCAA investigations at UL and landed UL on at least 2 NCAA probations to my memory, Samaki Walker's cars & Nate Johnson's hotel bills, He was also caught redhanded meeting with a recruit (I can't remember his name but UK wanted him tooo) and buying him lunch during a no contact period. It was reported by the apparently unaware CJ I believe.

And good God he was a key player in UCLA's decade long paying recruits, paying for players GF's abortions, and everything else that they got by with. Anyone old enough to have been around knows that Crum was as crooked as UCLA.

Was Denny a great coach? Absolutely. Was he a cheater? Absolutely
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Crum is clearly better than Jurich & Co but to say he was classy is ridiculous. He was involved in multiple NCAA investigations at UL and landed UL on at least 2 NCAA probations to my memory, Samaki Walker's cars & Nate Johnson's hotel bills, He was also caught redhanded meeting with a recruit (I can't remember his name but UK wanted him tooo) and buying him lunch during a no contact period. It was reported by the apparently unaware CJ I believe.

And good God he was a key player in UCLA's decade long paying recruits, paying for players GF's abortions, and everything else that they got by with. Anyone old enough to have been around knows that Crum was as crooked as UCLA.

Was Denny a great coach? Absolutely. Was he a cheater? Absolutely
Thank you. When he came over from UCLA he immediately started bad mouthing UK and kept it up for years. Class and Denny Crum are not to be used in the same sentence.
 

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Denny Crum has more integrity in his pinky finger than Pitino and Jurich combined.

I have listened to JE for quite some time. He is honest and gives a fair assessment of the, shall we say activity out there. They have been very critical of the shenanigans going on at UL and of Pitino.
 

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Crum is clearly better than Jurich & Co but to say he was classy is ridiculous. He was involved in multiple NCAA investigations at UL and landed UL on at least 2 NCAA probations to my memory, Samaki Walker's cars & Nate Johnson's hotel bills, He was also caught redhanded meeting with a recruit (I can't remember his name but UK wanted him tooo) and buying him lunch during a no contact period. It was reported by the apparently unaware CJ I believe.

And good God he was a key player in UCLA's decade long paying recruits, paying for players GF's abortions, and everything else that they got by with. Anyone old enough to have been around knows that Crum was as crooked as UCLA.

Was Denny a great coach? Absolutely. Was he a cheater? Absolutely

Dwayne Morton. It was Pitino's first recruiting cycle at UK and he was livid about it. Lol, he's fallen a long way since then.
 

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Crum is clearly better than Jurich & Co but to say he was classy is ridiculous. He was involved in multiple NCAA investigations at UL and landed UL on at least 2 NCAA probations to my memory, Samaki Walker's cars & Nate Johnson's hotel bills, He was also caught redhanded meeting with a recruit (I can't remember his name but UK wanted him tooo) and buying him lunch during a no contact period. It was reported by the apparently unaware CJ I believe.

And good God he was a key player in UCLA's decade long paying recruits, paying for players GF's abortions, and everything else that they got by with. Anyone old enough to have been around knows that Crum was as crooked as UCLA.

Was Denny a great coach? Absolutely. Was he a cheater? Absolutely
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Dwayne Morton. It was Pitino's first recruiting cycle at UK and he was livid about it. Lol, he's fallen a long way since then.
Fred Cowgill spotted Morton and Crum in Masterson's Restaurant during a dead period and harmlessly reported it on the air it set Pitino into a dither over the recruiting violation Fred had no idea what a dead period was at the time
 
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Jurich is nothing but a criminal and deserves to be in jail next to Ramsey..How he still has a job is a testament to the morally bankrupt ******** that run that institution..
Students paying higher tuition and teachers not getting raises and Jurich and Ramsey are stealing from the endowment to line their own pockets and business goes on as usual at ******** U. Just unreal.
I was wondering the same about Jurich. It's hard to imagine that he's still the AD at what is arguably the most decadent athletic program in NCAA history. The smug look he has on his face reminds me of some Mafia movie characters.
 

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Jurich has never done his job except to be a mobster style ruler of Louisville. He thought he was untouchable like most mobsters believe.
You are right. But Jurich isn't untouchable. Some people just have to keep testing the limit until they get nailed.
 
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uky8unc5

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I have been wondering if the NCAA is allowed to levy harsher penalties as UL goes through the appeals process.

Is anyone sure about how this works?
Logic says the NCAA can't penalize a school for taking advantage of the appeals process spelled out in their rules.
 
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