Archie Miller to IU

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At this point, any program that is looking to replace a coach is pretty much limited to an up and coming guy. Williams, K, Izzo, Pitino aren't going anywhere until they retire (probably all within 5 years and who wants to rent a coach for such a short time). Cal and Self are probably the only two remaining tier one coaches that are young enough to consider another job and why would they? After that who ya got?

Who do you think will take over Duke, UNC, MSU in the next few years - where are these grand slam guys that will step in? Are Capel & Collins great options, because they're the names being mentioned at this point.

I believe IU reached out to Donovan and he declined. Alford's people initiated contact and when he found out he wasn't going to be the first choice for the job he felt entitled to, he pulled his name (and his candidacy was questionable anyway with a mediocre history, the Pierce fiasco, and a lot of people now in power at IU that witnessed the arrogance he displayed off the court when he played there).

A grand slam hire is a guy that is nearly guaranteed to put you at the top. Archie Miller does not fit that description, but may well be the next best thing IMO.

And finally, Coach Cal seems to be very supportive and enthusiastic about the hire according to this report: http://www.daytondailynews.com/spor...ill-great-job-indiana/BudvSabjeZ8igPLnRrvMgK/
 
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wtf? You have no earthly idea what you're talking about.

Tubby Smith won a national title, 5 conference titles, and went to the elite 8 FOUR times. You would build a statue for that right now. Maybe rename the state. You suck.

Pitino was not a gamble, he was coming back from the Knicks and sought UK out. HE wanted this job, something Indiana could never accomplish. A top coach wanting to coach there.

Cal had no wrap sheet at all. He was never implicated in anything, and since Cal was drug through the mud by idiots like you, here's the real story.

Indiana has been on probation
UNC was busted for institutional cheating at a high level
Louisville was paying recruits and parents with hookers and sex
Syracuse had a pedo scandal

Kentucky? Cal? Clean.

Deal with it and stfu. If you want to talk over here with your big brother, you need to know facts. You just hired a risk and as a once proud program, you're a damn joke. And for the record, Donovan was never interested in IU. It just made you feel good.
I have forgotten more than you will ever know, sporto.

Tubby won a championship with Pitino's players, kind of like Mike Davis going to the title game with RMK's players. Tubby went to a few Elite 8's, kind of like how Crean went to a few Sweet 16's. SEC titles, LOL. The SEC is a joke, football conference: something is wrong if UK doesn't win the SEC title every year.

Hiring a guy with a FF at a mid-major and getting a butt spanking from Jordan in the playoffs is an educated gamble, especially when you just got slapped by the NCAA due to another bum hire, Eddie Sutton. It is ok to admit: the gamble paid off!

Calipari got UMass and Memphis in trouble with the NCAA. He's, by far, the shadiest coach in the game. He was proven winner, but he was also a proven NCAA liability. There is major risk hiring a coach like Calipari: once again, if you're good with it, great. I am not and think he stands for everything wrong with the NCAA.

The IU job will always be the better job. Indiana is the state known for basketball, which is an intangible that no other state, including Kentucky, will ever have. Indiana has a recruiting base that UK never has had, never will. IU doesn't have UK's sordid history. You aren't big brother because you are too big of a puss to play IU at Assembly Hall and get your butts kicked by a Crean team on a neutral court.

Donovan rejected UK multiple times, LOL. Have some pride. Once again, Brad Stevens would never be UK's coach: literally one of the funniest, ignorant things I have ever heard.
 
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Tubby and Eddie are miles better than any coach you have had since Knight. And neither was fired for choking teenagers...
Eddie was canned for Emery packages exploding with cash: he about got UK the death penalty. Tubby is a bum that won with Pitino's players. Eddie wasn't a special coach. I'd argue Sampson and Archie are better than either.

You literally can't have a conversation on this site. Toxic site, toxic fan base, really weird inferiority complex.
 

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I have forgotten more than you will ever know, sporto.

Tubby won a championship with Pitino's players, kind of like Mike Davis going to the title game with RMK's players. Tubby went to a few Elite 8's, kind of like how Crean went to a few Sweet 16's. SEC titles, LOL. The SEC is a joke, football conference: something is wrong if UK doesn't win the SEC title every year.

Hiring a guy with a FF at a mid-major and getting a butt spanking from Jordan in the playoffs is an educated gamble, especially when you just got slapped by the NCAA due to another bum hire, Eddie Sutton. It is ok to admit: the gamble paid off!

Calipari got UMass and Memphis in trouble with the NCAA. He's, by far, the shadiest coach in the game. He was proven winner, but he was also a proven NCAA liability. There is major risk hiring a coach like Calipari: once again, if you're good with it, great. I am not and think he stands for everything wrong with the NCAA.

The IU job will always be the better job. Indiana is the state known for basketball, which is an intangible that no other state, including Kentucky, will ever have. Indiana has a recruiting base that UK never has had, never will. IU doesn't have UK's sordid history. You aren't big brother because you are too big of a puss to play IU at Assembly Hall and get your butts kicked by a Crean team on a neutral court.

Donovan rejected UK multiple times, LOL. Have some pride. Once again, Brad Stevens would never be UK's coach: literally one of the funniest, ignorant things I have ever heard.

if you read that and it makes sense, we've got diagnosis for it. Ether that or you're old AF and need a nap.
 
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morgousky

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Eddie was canned for Emery packages exploding with cash: he about got UK the death penalty. Tubby is a bum that won with Pitino's players. Eddie wasn't a special coach. I'd argue Sampson and Archie are better than either.

You literally can't have a conversation on this site. Toxic site, toxic fan base, really weird inferiority complex.

You realize almost everything you're saying is incoherent and ridiculous? You ok old champ ( and I do mean old, old Indiana champ)
 
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Aike

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I have forgotten more than you will ever know, sporto.

Tubby won a championship with Pitino's players, kind of like Mike Davis going to the title game with RMK's players. Tubby went to a few Elite 8's, kind of like how Crean went to a few Sweet 16's. SEC titles, LOL. The SEC is a joke, football conference: something is wrong if UK doesn't win the SEC title every year.

Hiring a guy with a FF at a mid-major and getting a butt spanking from Jordan in the playoffs is an educated gamble, especially when you just got slapped by the NCAA due to another bum hire, Eddie Sutton. It is ok to admit: the gamble paid off!

Calipari got UMass and Memphis in trouble with the NCAA. He's, by far, the shadiest coach in the game. He was proven winner, but he was also a proven NCAA liability. There is major risk hiring a coach like Calipari: once again, if you're good with it, great. I am not and think he stands for everything wrong with the NCAA.

The IU job will always be the better job. Indiana is the state known for basketball, which is an intangible that no other state, including Kentucky, will ever have. Indiana has a recruiting base that UK never has had, never will. IU doesn't have UK's sordid history. You aren't big brother because you are too big of a puss to play IU at Assembly Hall and get your butts kicked by a Crean team on a neutral court.

Donovan rejected UK multiple times, LOL. Have some pride. Once again, Brad Stevens would never be UK's coach: literally one of the funniest, ignorant things I have ever heard.

Congratulations. You might possibly be the most delusional poster on the internet.
 

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Eddie was canned for Emery packages exploding with cash: he about got UK the death penalty. Tubby is a bum that won with Pitino's players. Eddie wasn't a special coach. I'd argue Sampson and Archie are better than either.

You literally can't have a conversation on this site. Toxic site, toxic fan base, really weird inferiority complex.

We have an Elite 8 game in 75 minutes. Go away.

You saying we have an inferiority complex is like the Egyptian Navy saying the American Navy has an inferiority complex.
 

Aike

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Wtf was all that? Mid major hire? Brad Stevens will never be at UK?

Time for a gofundme for this one. Hope Indiana treats their elderly better than they treat their visitors.

Whatever you say, sporto.
 

brianpoe

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Eddie was canned for Emery packages exploding with cash: he about got UK the death penalty. Tubby is a bum that won with Pitino's players. Eddie wasn't a special coach. I'd argue Sampson and Archie are better than either.

You literally can't have a conversation on this site. Toxic site, toxic fan base, really weird inferiority complex.


Please compare 1 title, 4 final fours, a dozen league titles and 4 National Coach of the Year awards to your coaches...

Sampson: 1 FF, 1 COY and 14 NCAA appearances - lost in the first weekend 11 times. Not to mention multiple violations.

Archie: 1 Elite Eight, 1 A10 COY

The stupidity of Hoosier fans knows no bounds.
 

morgousky

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Please compare 1 title, 4 final fours, a dozen league titles and 4 National Coach of the Year awards to your coaches...

Sampson: 1 FF, 1 COY and 14 NCAA appearances - lost in the first weekend 11 times. Not to mention multiple violations.

Archie: 1 Elite Eight, 1 A10 COY

The stupidity of Hoosier fans knows no bounds.
Damn didn't rememeber how bad Sampson sucked as a college HC. they've been completely garbage since the 90's when they were mildly garbage.
 

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Indiana fans are the 50 year olds in the bar wearing a lettermen jacket talking about what they did in high school and thinking they're going to get some snatch.

Delusional.
 

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I like the guy and he has good teams at Dayton year after year. Don't know and really don't care how he will do at IU. Cannot stand the fan base, team, school, players, players families, etc...... Think you get my point!
 
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irishcat1965

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What the bloody he'll are you talking about? ********? Rupp arena is a plastic boring funeral home full of blue hairs.
Assembly Hall- a total ********. The damn ceiling tiles are falling down in that old worthless gym. There are high school gyms better than Assembly Hall. It's a total joke- just like IU basketball.
 
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brianpoe

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I have forgotten more than you will ever know, sporto.

The SEC is a joke, football conference: something is wrong if UK doesn't win the SEC title every year.


Calipari got UMass and Memphis in trouble with the NCAA. He's, by far, the shadiest coach in the game. He was proven winner, but he was also a proven NCAA liability. There is major risk hiring a coach like Calipari: once again, if you're good with it, great. I am not and think he stands for everything wrong with the NCAA.

The IU job will always be the better job. Indiana is the state known for basketball, which is an intangible that no other state, including Kentucky, will ever have. Indiana has a recruiting base that UK never has had, never will. IU doesn't have UK's sordid history. You aren't big brother because you are too big of a puss to play IU at Assembly Hall and get your butts kicked by a Crean team on a neutral court.

You literally can't have a conversation on this site. Toxic site, toxic fan base, really weird inferiority complex.


It is difficult to have a conversation with a complete and total dumbass who thinks he knows everything.

SEC had 3 out of 6 of the remaining Elite Eight this year.

30 years since you sniffed an EE.


How did Cal get UMass in trouble? Did he tell an agent to give Camby impermissible benefits as a junior in COLLEGE? Or did Cal report Camby to the NCAA and found to have no fault?

How did Cal get Memphis in trouble? Because he played a kid the NCAA approved, until after the season due to an ACT taken in high school? Did Cal take his ACT for him? Again NCAA found him at no fault.

You say Sutton and his 3 FF's and COY awards suck because of an emory package that was later found to be a UCLA fan hoax - keep in mind that happened the same time you guys last won a title.

Tubby's title is worthless? His EE's are the same as your sweet 16's? You hang banners for S16's you mid major POS. Tubby's COY awards are worthless as well?

Since then IU has been in trouble a dozen times.

IU most definitley has a sordid history, check out the NCAA violations, not to mention the shady AAU dealings.

Indiana does have a solid recruiting base, we are happy about that because it is close for our coaches and the kids see a lot of UK - we take almost all of the best talent from your state.

You literally can't have a conversation on this site with IU fans. Toxic, entitled people, lying fan base, really weird inferiority complex.

Face it, you guys have SUCKED for 30 years.

Violations, no traction in NCAA tournament, players involved in drugs and alcohol, coaches cheating, fans attacking visiting fans resulting in written apologies from your AD, overshadowed by 3 other schools in your home state.

You are the flag ship school of Indiana in name only - ND, Purdue and Butler have surpassed you - yet you come to the message board of the winningest program in history?

 
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irishcat1965

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Eddie was canned for Emery packages exploding with cash: he about got UK the death penalty. Tubby is a bum that won with Pitino's players. Eddie wasn't a special coach. I'd argue Sampson and Archie are better than either.

You literally can't have a conversation on this site. Toxic site, toxic fan base, really weird inferiority complex.
You are one ignorant meth head. IU is a has been, mid major basketball program. Notre Dame, Butler and Purdue has passed by your joke program in Indiana. UK recruits nationally and we take the players in Indiana we want and leave you has beens our sloppy seconds. You are truly delusional. Put down the pipe and get some help little girl.
 
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