It means that unless guys are trying to get Willis open shots or the ball in transition, he shouldn't be on the floor. He's a rotation player, which is perfectly fine.
Cal Has Accepted Willis' Limitations
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James Young consistently got torched on D, maybe the worst ever I've seen at UK. That's what I dont get, why did he get a pass? Was his inconsistent shooting, low basketball IQ, and refusal to pass the ball enough to make up for his defensive liabilities?
We were about to get blown out by UL in the tournament because freaking Luke Hamcock was torching him off the bounce, until he fouled out and we immediately erased a 10 point deficit. The whole time he was getting destroyed in a tournament game he was allowed to play thru it. Its just weird.
We were about to get blown out by UL in the tournament because freaking Luke Hamcock was torching him off the bounce, until he fouled out and we immediately erased a 10 point deficit. The whole time he was getting destroyed in a tournament game he was allowed to play thru it. Its just weird.
Not even sure why you brought Witljer into this thread, if you think he is in anyway comparable to Willis your lost. That said the highlights of Wiltjer's career came at Kentucky, not Gonzaga. He won a national championship here and when his playing days were over it was Kentucky that he came back to and did his autograph tour.
Willis is who he is and no matter how many want to second guess his coach, or suggest he woulda coulda been something else if he had not came here he was never going to be anything different that what he is.
You really need to look at both players again because obviously you don't recall Young's game. He was a better shooter, rebounder, and passer than Willis. Yea, that is true.
In his one season he hit 9 less three pointers than Willis has in almost four seasons. Young, in his one season had 67 assist compared to 38 for Willis' entire career. Willis will most likely graduate with fewer career points scored than Young put up as a freshman. I could go on but there is no need and the only reason you don't understand why a five star recruit played more (other than the obvious production) has to because you don't want to understand it.
was he an All-American here? Did he average 20 here? Yes he loved KY, but he knew his career would be better somewhere else, and it was. If you can't see that then you are blind.
You bent him over john. Spank his behind as you own him with facts.
would it have anything to do with opportunity? Compare Young to Wiltjers years at Gonzaga. You just don't like Willis, many people do.
He very well could have. He didn't do there until his senior season, he was he starter here when he left and really didn't play anymore at Gonzaga than he did here until his senior season. I'm sure the easier games helped his stats too so maybe he wouldn't have put up 20ppg but he could have came close.
LOL, he averaged 16.8 ppg his junior year. Averaged 27.6 minutes per game his JUNIOR year. Try blowing your smoke up someone elses butt!
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Welcome to the real world. You get what you earn, not what what a few fans think you should get. No one wants him to succeed more than the guy that recruited and coaches him. You're not doing Willis any favors by making up half baked excuses. I like Willis too, just like I have all UK players. You didn't see me bringing past players into the thread to try and trash them.
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Willis reminds me of a lot of guys who go to Wisconsin. I'm pretty sure he would be excelling there by now
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JY 35% from 3, 171 rebounds
DW 41% from3, 268 rebounds
Willis is a better shooter and rebounder, you are entitled to your opinion but not your facts
Willis finishing on a high note would greatly increase UK's chances of finishing on a high note
you'll get smoked. I'm going to watch John destroy you in response in a minute. lol
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You left out the stat that would have put your thots in perspective. Career minutes played.
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If he doesn't think DW is reliable then why hasn't he recruited a 5-star to take all those minutes? Oh wait ...
you mean he has, but the 5 star isn't reliable either. There's always next year.
you mean he has, but the 5 star isn't reliable either. There's always next year.
Fact is like I said, Young hit 9 less 3's in one season than Willis has in four. I count shots that go through the hoop when I'm judging a shooter. If you want to use only percentage we could find some walk-on's over the years that would have amazing stats. You also compared the rebound totals of one year to four year.
Moderator deleted your cuss words and mine.
anyways..you should LOOK harder when you start having an argument.
(He's a redshirt Junior) Give him 5 years at UK. Imagine if Ulis had Wiltjer here...last year.
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He averaged 23.8 min's/game his last year here. So less than four min's per game, as I said he didn't play much more at Gonzaga until his senior year (33.6 min's/game)
Those are earned, am I supposed to hold it against the player that earned more?
DW 3pt 91 made in 223 attempts, JY 82 made in 235 attempts WOW that's some difference, he could miss the next 12 and still beat your boy.
Yep, Willis has 97 more rebounds in 60 less minutes
I remember Youngs game perfectly fine. What you're leaving out is James Young played more minutes in his one year than Derek Willis has played in his entire career here. Young played 1296 minutes, Willis played 1233 so far. So comparing 1 year to 4 years aint exactly fair.
Young may finish his career with more points because he took so many more shots. James Young took 450 shots in his 1 season, Willis has taken 334 in 4 years. Young shot 40% from the field, Willis 47%. Young was 82-235 from 3, Willis is 91-223, so yeah, Young hit 9 less 3's on 12 more attempts. Young 34% from 3, Willis 40% from 3. The only reason that 5 star recruit played more was because he was a 5 star recruit, it had nothing to do with production. The only thing Young had on Willis was an opportunity to play.
young isn't my boy. Nor is Willis or anyone else on UK team. I look at every one equally.
Willis is a senior... at a 4 position. Of course he'll have more rebound. But relative to each position he is much weaker than the expectation.
I'm not trying to turn this into a your boy vs my boy thing, they're both our boys, I'm just saying Willis deserved more of an opportunity than he got.
No problem, I agree with you, Blue was trying to twist stats to fit his need and the stats just aren't there. Young also made about 50% more TO' s in about the same amount of time which fits in more with your argument than John's
A guy that if you put in and he’s really on, you leave him in there. And if he’s really not, you’ll know right away and, ‘You’re out,’ ” Calipari said. “Like, yesterday (in practice) he did some stuff and I’m like, ‘You can’t do this to your team. They have to know they can count on you. You cannot do what you’re doing over here.’ So sometimes he goes in and out.
“You know, I’d like him to be more consistent, but at some point you gotta say, ‘Here’s who he is. Now, how do we do this? How do we get the best out of him, being this is who he is?’
You interpret this at Cal hates him?
and some act like he is throwing him under the bus... he has said much worse to and about other players
geez, lots of snowflakes this winter
Naw, you are ignoring team mates, competition, a year's maturity, etc. Basketball players aren't quarters. You don't get 25 cents every place you use them.
If Willis couldn't manage to get more playing time in 4yrs that is on him.
Yup, he should've transfered. He was too good to be wasting away on a bench, so is SKJ.
Skj isn't healthy you goof.
And it's hilarious that we actually have fans that think Willis is better than James Young