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In 1.9 seconds, they threw it in received it, walked, called timeout. Threw it in again, it was intercepted by U.K., they fell down, called a walk, threw it in again, caught it and shot a three pointer. Lol
They said maybe he held his pivot foot.....hehe. That's hard to do when your hopping like a rabbit.
Well, I had to watch it several times slowing it down and there is no doubt he walked as he establishes his left foot as the pivot foot and then slides it establishing the right. But, it happened pretty quick so a missed call that fortunately didn't cost us the game. But, it was walking absolutely non-debatable UNC fans.
It was simply refs doing what refs do best. They were going to call the TO and that was all they were looking for.
Surprised when the ball got stuck that Ayers did not add 1.0 back to clock, and award UNC the ball.
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It was astounding the amount of play that went on in 1.9 seconds .
I wasn't sure until I went frame by frame and realized the UNC player was facing the ball when he caught it and then turned looked to see who or what was in front of him and then looks at the ref. The travel clearly was before he called timeout, IMO. But, either way, we still win. UNC had multiple chances.
I'm not convinced that he got the timeout before the walk because he didn't look at the ref until AFTER he looked down court. By then, he was traveling. Clearly, IMO, it was a blown call.
Well the refs tried their best but UNC just couldn't pull it out. I know Coach Roy and his minions of UNC fans are thankful to the referee and will count on them to intervene in future close games. The ref gave them a gift but it ended up in a stuck ball at the rim and backboard. Fitting way to end this.
Yeah, I wouldn't call it black or white, that's for sure. There's a gray area of 'intent' there. We can point to better examples of blown calls in the game, both ways. In this case, I think benefit of the doubt went to the player. So not saying you are wrong, just saw it bit different.
Or another double foul, where UNC gets 4 free throws by some screw up where they shot 2 of the free throws that were meant for us.
"Oops, we screwed it, but now you f'n kids will learn that everyone is here to see Roger The Man Ayers, and not you jabronis!"
Is that you, Rick?
Come on guys! After going to all that effort to let them skate on basically cheating all of college basketball for decades you think they'll bat an eye at fudging the time keeping at the end of one game?
Especially against UK, who everyone knows are the real cheats! I mean all of you believe in commonly repeated heresay more than an actual preponderance of proof don't you??
Especially against UK, who everyone knows are the real cheats! I mean all of you believe in commonly repeated heresay more than an actual preponderance of proof don't you??
True but when did he call the timeout? According to the ref, he had to have called the TO as soon as he touched the ball. That would explain the amount of time put back on the clock and no traveling call. However, as I said, I saw him look down court and then at the ref. Clearly, UNC got the complete benefit of any doubt.
The refs tried giving them the game. Adding on seconds at the end but NC didn't want their help. [winking]
He's calling timeout as he's doing it. No official is going to call a walk in that situation. Has no effect on the game.
As preacher noted, it's a fair assessment. I'd imagine during the previous TO, Coach Roy (or an assistant) had indicated to the officials they were going to call TO as soon as the player touched the ball. Hence, it was what the ref had his eyes on, and was looking for. I've seen much worse, questionable calls occur right in front of an official.
More importantly, this young team responded to being "punched in the mouth" for the final minutes during a tight game against a more experienced roster who was the National Runner-up from last year.
There is zero chance the NCAA is going to give UNC the loss on a walk. Not gonna happen.
The fact that they got an extra half second TWICE is ridiculous. We won, so it doesn't matter, but imagine if we lost cause of that? The outcome of the game shouldn't excuse the gift officiating that UNC got.
1. Hawkins intentional. Ok they are calling it tight, I guess but,
2. No intentional on launching your body into the hot shooter.
3. Removing fouls on Meeks is fishy.
4. The walk.
5. Added clock time once.
6. Added clock time twice.
These aren't ticky tack fouls that I'm sure both sides can point out.. These are blatantly obvious. An attempt to help UNC get the win.
The fact that they got an extra half second TWICE is ridiculous. We won, so it doesn't matter, but imagine if we lost cause of that? The outcome of the game shouldn't excuse the gift officiating that UNC got.
1. Hawkins intentional. Ok they are calling it tight, I guess but,
2. No intentional on launching your body into the hot shooter.
3. Removing fouls on Meeks is fishy.
4. The walk.
5. Added clock time once.
6. Added clock time twice.
These aren't ticky tack fouls that I'm sure both sides can point out.. These are blatantly obvious. An attempt to help UNC get the win.
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No, you can't call a timeout while walking.
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Look man, the guy dragged his damn foot before he even attempted to call timeout. The evidence is in the video. Are.you blind?
OMG, it's so damn obvious too. Why are ppl being stupid about this? Hell, if he was verbally calling the timeout, he wasn't even looking at the official. Dude had already turned his head and was headed toward the other end without even dribbling the ball. Then turns and verbals the TO and subsequently motions for it. Textbook travel.
Way more blatant than half the travels they call on a head fake at the top of the key.
LOL. No, I'm just not one to deny what I saw so I fit in with the crowd. I've watch the video 20 - 30 times. Slow mo. Frame by frame. I saw a player making gestures just before and during the hop that a referee might reasonably assume was a call for time out before his feet hit the floor.
We do agree on one thing, the evidence is in the video.
Does it say that you must be looking right at the official when calling the TO? I've never read that.
The problem isn't the call. I get the other side. End of game situation. Hard to tell.
The problem is that if it were Kentucky.. That's a walk and game over. If it's maybe any team OTHER than UNC or Duke.. It's game over.
But no, let's give them as many chances we can to win this game.
The problem is that if it were Kentucky.. That's a walk and game over. If it's maybe any team OTHER than UNC or Duke.. It's game over.
But no, let's give them as many chances we can to win this game.
So the explanation from the ref must go something like this " I knew he needed a timeout and really wanted one , so as he walked 3000 miles I saw him GESTURE and thought , there - time out "
No but it's a safe assumption that if he were talking to the ref he would be looking at him, right? Plus, the replay doesn't show him saying anything until AFTER he traveled and then turning back to look at the ref to call the timeout.
UNC got away with travels the whole game. It was like the refs thought they were officiating a 3rd grade game at the local Y.