i think it looked worse than it was because all of MSU player were in a line with hands over their hearts, but my facebook feed blowing up with posts of U.K. Players not showing respect during the playing of the national anthem. Great win and not to take away but it did t look good for the school during the Anthem
National Anthem issue
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I knew someone would bring this up. I just thought it would be UMM after Willis gave him no material.
I didn't see it....but it's generally respectful to either have one hand over heart or both hands behind back...both of which signify respect so non-issue
I noticed cause monk just had his arms folded, but I'm not letting it get me down. Hey they watch media and do what they see sometimes too.
I didn't see them do anything inappropriate.It's not required to put your hand over your heart. Our guys were just standing there looking at the colorguard. Complete non-issue.
Besides, when I go watch games at Rupp there's UK fans who don't take off their hats, check their phones or keep talking during the anthem. I find it a bit rude, but don't care enough to say anything to them.
Besides, when I go watch games at Rupp there's UK fans who don't take off their hats, check their phones or keep talking during the anthem. I find it a bit rude, but don't care enough to say anything to them.
No issue whatsoever. Our players were fine. Let's not flake out over our kids not in lockstep with MSU...they were respectful and our kids were also. End of story.
I am, however, boycotting the NFL and am enjoying not having watched one second of it thanks to Colin and his ilk. Add that goof from our women's soccer team...not watching them either. Spoiled. Disrespectful. Morons.
A flag is not an engraven image..the American flag was never meant to be worshipped. There is no requirement how you direct towards it.
Go spend some time in Arlington.
What do you expect when thugs like Cap glorified disrespect in the name of saying something important. About the like the punks that protest the results of an election.
I know what your saying but the growing disrespect for the nation we live in is just getting ridiculous!!
They stood up. They didn't kneel. No problem.
Protesting an election is almost as stupid as getting mad about how 18 year old kids stand during the national anthem.
Did you mean the kind of disrespect you showed in this post or are you exempt for some reason and allowed to disrespect those you disagree with?
This is a very complex issue and I am a Vet, and can say for the first time in my life, I am embarrassed about the way WE are portraying ourselves to the rest of the world. Republican, Democrat, Independent...the last 18 months has not been the way the World leader should be acting and it is not going to get better anytime soon. One mans opinion!
Actually, it's not. Etiquette is your only supposed to put your hand over your heart for Pledge of Allegiance and not the National Anthem, unless you are military or ex-military.
I noticed that Zipp and Kerry Rhodes liked what you said, You also said engraven and worshipped.
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If you can't show some respect for the two minutes it takes to play the National Anthem then you don't need to be playing sports.
I resepectfully disagree...
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/36/301
36 U.S. Code § 301 - National anthem
b) Conduct During Playing.—
During a rendition of the national anthem—
(1)when the flag is displayed—
(A) individuals in uniform should give the military salute at the first note of the anthem and maintain that position until the last note;
(B) members of the Armed Forces and veterans who are present but not in uniform may render the military salute in the manner provided for individuals in uniform; and
(C) all other persons present should face the flag and stand at attention with their right hand over the heart, and men not in uniform, if applicable, should remove their headdress with their right hand and hold it at the left shoulder, the hand being over the heart;
I missed the anthem but as the game was started my 85 year old mom called , Said " did you see that " and I'm like What ? Our team was not interested in paying attention to the national anthem
Exactly my point. After a couple of hours in Arlington, I don't have the urge to show respect by standing during the anthem so much as to hit my knees and thank God for the flag and United States. All those white markers are the saddest proudest thing I've ever seen in my life.
If I could I'd like this X100.
Let's not kid ourselves folks, it is disrespectful to all veterans and active duty personnel to not place your hand over your heart during the anthem. Buzz Williams actually made this a point of emphasis for one of his team's and it was awesome to see how he did it.
However, this is just something athletic culture doesn't seem to care about. I don't understand why athletes stopped doing it (and now they do things like sway, fold their arms, etc) but for most part, the culture of athletics has shifted away from that. But just because everyone does it doesn't make it right.
But again, it's not UK is some outlier here- it's the culture of athletics today and there's really nothing to be done. Plus they're free to express themselves how they want during the anthem and it's their choice how to do that.
However, this is just something athletic culture doesn't seem to care about. I don't understand why athletes stopped doing it (and now they do things like sway, fold their arms, etc) but for most part, the culture of athletics has shifted away from that. But just because everyone does it doesn't make it right.
But again, it's not UK is some outlier here- it's the culture of athletics today and there's really nothing to be done. Plus they're free to express themselves how they want during the anthem and it's their choice how to do that.
I was at a bar last night, and they played the full National Anthem and showed all the players. I noticed the barkeep was still doing her job and laughing with a customer. Most people were watching but no one had a hand over their heart nor were singing. This was a fairly conservative establishment--mixed crowd of UK but many middle-aged folks (not Millennials).
What are the rules about watching the National Anthem on TV? Should I have shaken my head in disgust at all the older folks there who weren't covering their hearts?
What are the rules about watching the National Anthem on TV? Should I have shaken my head in disgust at all the older folks there who weren't covering their hearts?
UNITED STATES CODE
TITLE 36
CHAPTER 10
(PATRIOTIC CUSTOMS)
§170. National anthem; Star-Spangled Banner
The composition consisting of the words and music known as The Star-Spangled Banner is designated the national anthem of the United States of America.
§171. Conduct during playing
During rendition of the national anthem when the flag is displayed, all present except those in uniform should stand at attention facing the flag with the right hand over the heart. Men not in uniform should remove their headdress with their right hand and hold it at the left shoulder, the hand being over the heart. Persons in uniform should render the military salute at the first note of the anthem and retain this position until the last note. When the flag is not displayed, those present should face toward the music and act in the same manner they would if the flag were displayed there.
These are "patriotic customs" codified into law - not required but acknowledged customs. See Entire USC Title 36, Chapter 10 for the "Flag Code."
This code is the guide for all handling and display of the Stars and Stripes. It does not impose penalties for misuse of the United States Flag. That is left to the states and to the federal government for the District of Columbia. Each state has its own flag law.
Criminal penalties for certain acts of desecration to the flag were contained in Title 18 of the United States Code prior to 1989. The Supreme Court decision in Texas v. Johnson; June 21, 1989, held the statute unconstitutional. This statute was amended when the Flag Protection Act of 1989 (Oct. 28, 1989) imposed a fine and/or up to I year in prison for knowingly mutilating, defacing, physically defiling, maintaining on the floor or trampling upon any flag of the United States. The Flag Protection Act of 1989 was struck down by the Supreme Court decision, United States vs. Eichman, decided on June 11, 1990.
There is no issue and the folks most likely to make one are the least likely to actually love this country.
They hate the government and seek ever to undermine it.
They hate half the people.
They have great disdain for self determination.
They cheer as our waters are poisoned, lands scarred, air polluted, and flora and fauna decimated.
They are proud they gave the nuclear codes to a white nationalist, no nothing 70 year old with the type of self control that leads to 3am Twitter snits.
They despise our values like a free expression, a free press, one person one vote, paying their taxes, looking out for the helpless, and the dream of an ever more perfect Union (or in some cases one at all as some of them are still Rebels and fly the Rebel flag).
Spare us all this phony reverence and chest pounding about all this love and respect as it is substantially a figment.
They hate the government and seek ever to undermine it.
They hate half the people.
They have great disdain for self determination.
They cheer as our waters are poisoned, lands scarred, air polluted, and flora and fauna decimated.
They are proud they gave the nuclear codes to a white nationalist, no nothing 70 year old with the type of self control that leads to 3am Twitter snits.
They despise our values like a free expression, a free press, one person one vote, paying their taxes, looking out for the helpless, and the dream of an ever more perfect Union (or in some cases one at all as some of them are still Rebels and fly the Rebel flag).
Spare us all this phony reverence and chest pounding about all this love and respect as it is substantially a figment.
Yes yes. Hilary lost and you got butt hurt. This is the first election that a candidate ever lost, so far as you know, I suppose.
You have three choices. Go start a riot and break stuff belonging to innocent people to show your respect for the lies you've told. Leave the country, I suggest Mexico but you may find Canada more to your liking (preferred). Or, you could quit whining and support the flag and the country that affords you the ability to whine.
Lol, what? players have stood like that 1000 times before. Lol at your fake outrage.
I cannot imagine how miserable many of you must be.
Not a single player was being disrespectful last night. They were standing there watching while the anthem was being performed like about 25,000 other people in attendance. No one was making an outward gesture of disrespect.
I hate discussions like this one, but every year it seems our fans have to demonstrate the way they actually view our players.
Not a single player was being disrespectful last night. They were standing there watching while the anthem was being performed like about 25,000 other people in attendance. No one was making an outward gesture of disrespect.
I hate discussions like this one, but every year it seems our fans have to demonstrate the way they actually view our players.
Here's an idea, worry about yourselves and STFU about everyone else unless they're harming you.
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