That the whole recruiting process and supposed insiders and their sources rarely know anymore than any other Joe schmoe. Look at the crystal ball bull#$%! I mean seriously, has that damn thing ever been right?
The DeAndre Atyon announcement proves...
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Not anything other than what I stated. Do you have anything else to add? Smartass.
actually it proves uk can cal is the best staff in the business. uk didnt and wasnt recruiting ayton...reason...no one thinks he is actually going to play college ball. where as ku has been recruiting him forever. and of course sean miller who wants to be associated with elite players...even if they dont actually play a game. see terrance ferguson.
our staff is going after guys and will get them.
our staff is going after guys and will get them.
Wow, stick your head in the Freezer for 10 minutes, then stick it in the dish washer. Thx.
Cal is wanting bamba bad, if he is holding off a commitment from Richards and not even sniffing ayton then he must be very confident...
No. Except I will say the other two threads seemed to have this covered, dumbass.
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I liked his post and then had to withdraw my like because you seem certain. Plus you had it in bold black.
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I understand Sean Miller wants to be known as one of the elite recruiters in the game, but come on. Cal is known for all his OneandDones, but at least he gets a college basketball season out of that. Sean Miller is going to be known as the man for the NoneandDone group in the NBA. I know some will say you don't know if the kid gets the grade or not. I don't. I do know Cal loves as much elite talent as he can get his hands on and a kid with the body and talent like Ayton, no way in hell he hands the kid over to Sean Miller and Zona on a platter. If it wasn't known Cal is the kids dream coach to play for, things might be different. So sad these kids won't take their school work as serious as their work on the basketball court. Silly things like this wouldn't ever happen again.
Crystal Ball picks are correct a lot more often than not...this board only focuses on the ones they get wrong.
This announcement came out of nowhere, if they had more time to update picks and spend time on it, I'd say you would get a lot more guys switching guesses. The fact that no school even knew the announcement was happening speaks to it all. And, most people say he will never get qualified.
This announcement came out of nowhere, if they had more time to update picks and spend time on it, I'd say you would get a lot more guys switching guesses. The fact that no school even knew the announcement was happening speaks to it all. And, most people say he will never get qualified.
This board focuses when it's wrong because Meyer loves to brag that it's rarely ever wrong and it's the greatest thing since sliced bread.
I follow Meyer closely, I've never seen him "brag". When a pick commits, he will state the % that the contributors had toward the given school.
Just pretty stupid to wait for someone to be wrong about something, then all pile on, but give no acknowledgment of the large % of time it's right. What kind of miserable people do that?
Crystal ball nonsense is just that. You are wasting your time paying attention to it and discussing it like it matters. Meyer is a tool but most know that.
Regardless of him Ayton being eligible, the pick does a few things for Arizona. 1) Gets the media discussing the team, 2) potential players wanting to play with him are likely to at least look at Arizona, 3) allows Miller to still recruit top bigs by telling them he is either OAD or not going to eligible, and 4) Gets the media (and other team's fans) discussing Arizona. Imight have said #4 twice.
Aww poor Jerry. Don't worry, I'm sure he'll be fine. Plus I didn't rag on him, I just noted the crystal ball was wrong this time.
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Is it truly miserable behavior or is it merely the foundational basis for sports fans in general? Sports fandom is nothing less than non-violent tribalism and the Jerry Meyer bashing is par for the course. I mean, how can you reasonably expect civility from such a relatively brutish social structure?
They actually get more than 70% right. You singled out this one they got wrong but failed to mention all the other ones they got right this year
Better than being a douche bag, ala you. Gfy with your likely ample supply of Massengil products.
P.S. Spell much?
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And to make n idiotic statement of, "back the hell up" after you became confrontational with me to start, shows that you're not the brightest bulb in the chandelier. And again, gfy.
They typically get them right, but that doesn't account for the hundreds of switches that take place within the 24 hour window before a decision is made or the thousands that take place on vast levels throughout the process. Meyer had UK landing Emmanual Mudiay, Rashad Vaughn, and Stanley Johnson one year before the dust began to settle. At different points, 247 had Newman going to UK; Wiggins going to UK or FSU; Murray heading to Oregon; Briscoe favoring St. John's; Bam headed to NC State, etc. If one did real research on this, they'd see that the numbers don't necessarily favor the gurus early in the process and usually not before the last few days before a kid announces his pick.
If one were to factor in 247's predictions a week or so before a kid commits, I'd venture to say that the success rate would look more like 40 to 50% instead of the 70% numbers you're touting. Our fans on this message board could guess just as effectively in most recruitments, especially in the 24 to 48 hours before a kid makes his pick.
In other words, Ayton caught them napping on this one, and didn't give the "professional recruiting guys" time to feel out the terrain. Considering how much time many of these so-called experts put into recruiting, I'd say the vast majority of them are abject failures at successfully projecting where kids will end up months before a recruitment ends.
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The crystal ball has its place in the world of recruiting but it just has to be understood for what it is. It is a barometer for where the "experts" perceive a kid is leaning at the time. A kid may be feeling Kentucky today and then a visit to Michigan State changes his feelings and the ball ends up wrong.
It doesn't matter whether crystal ball predictions are correct or not. The point here is that crystal ball predictions are incorrect often enough that they are not reliable. The crystal ball guys usually don't have any better idea than we have about where players will commit, and the Ayton announcement is just 1 more example. Many announcements are predictable. Karl Towns and De'Aaron Fox were predictable. But a whole lot of these announcements are unpredictable. Bam Adebayo, Skal Labissiere, Jaylen Brown, Caleb Swanigan, James Blackmon II were major surprises. Arkansas fans are still in shock over Malik Monk. I believe Coach Calipari has strong views about the evolution of the game, which is why he has involved himself with innovations such as DDMO, lob pass, "positionless basketball". These innovations have deeply affected Calipari's recruiting decisions. Calipari wants Bamba and Knox because Bamba and Knox fit Calipari's beliefs about the evolutionary direction of the college game. Or maybe it is more accurate to say that Calipari intends to control the evolutionary direction of college basketball.
Yeah but you act like crystal ball should be 100% right all the time...these guys doing their best to give you info on where they think a kid is going.
And you are about a billion % wrong, the analyst (for the most part) absolutely have a better idea than anyone on this board where a kid is likely to end up. Could they be wrong? For sure...but their sources are better than yours, because they have sources
