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The problem is you probably aren't getting a healthy Wade and Bosh if you make it to the finals. That was part of the problem the last few years in Miami. You have a healthy Wade and Bosh that last year, that last Spurs/Heat series would have been more competitive.
Exactly and forget about Wade staying healthy there is no way Bron staying could prevent Bosh form getting blood clots which would have cost him to miss the last two playoffs
Seems you're just a Lebron hater. Jordan was an egomaniac as well.
41-16-7 in an elimination game of the NBA finals in what is statistically the hardest place to win in the league.
But if they don't win the series, it's his fault. Sure thing.
But if they don't win the series, it's his fault. Sure thing.
The shortcomings of the roster are definitely somewhat his fault, but anyone questioning his place among the greats at this point is an idiot.
So Lebron is an egomaniac? Then what in the heck is Steph Curry? He is SOOOO cocky!!
Thank you... Said that a while back and got destroyed for it.. I give the guy props on his game but can't stand him.. Used to like klay too but the faces and trash talkin he's been doing have put him in the same category as steph..
Along with 3 steals and 3 blocks. Just LeBron being LeBron.
he destroyed lenny cooke at the us olympic festival, and then fairly suddenly, at 16, he was a national celebrity--not based on anything but his being freakishly good at basketball
of course he's somewhat weird, and out of touch with normal people. he's never had a normal life
pretty sure he won't use his HOF induction speech as an opportunity to rip everyone who ever looked at him sideways the way that POS jordan did. and kobe is clearly both an inferior player and inferior person
of course he's somewhat weird, and out of touch with normal people. he's never had a normal life
pretty sure he won't use his HOF induction speech as an opportunity to rip everyone who ever looked at him sideways the way that POS jordan did. and kobe is clearly both an inferior player and inferior person
Here's a different take. With a full title-run (win or lose) adding 2 months onto an NBA season, how much does this play into health and production? My point being that Curry is now struggling (slightly some nights to heavily others) in two Finals in a row.
Maybe Lebron James playing 9-month seasons for the last.. what 6.. 7 years in a row?.. is a little harder than we thought?
.. naaah he's just the NBA's biggest *****, flopper, crybaby, whiner, egotist of all time WITH the worst hair ever.
Maybe Lebron James playing 9-month seasons for the last.. what 6.. 7 years in a row?.. is a little harder than we thought?
.. naaah he's just the NBA's biggest *****, flopper, crybaby, whiner, egotist of all time WITH the worst hair ever.
^ I think in 100 years what we (and I mean sports talk level discourse) refer to as clutch or weak or whatever BS labels we put on it will be understood to be a combination of small sample size and fatigue. OKC experienced it last series when they rode their starters for 40+ minutes and wilted late. They didn't choke because 1) their lead was based, in part, on riding starters longer while Kerr used his bench (short term pain, long term pain), and 2) they were freaking spent. Same for Lue not resting Lebron and Irving at all in the second half on Friday night.
Lets see how Steph Curry shoots the ball with less than a year off over the course of 6 years. I imagine on year 6 and 7, where your body is just begging for legitimate time off, not too well.
there were quite a few people dancing on the grave of lebron-as-league's-best-player in midseason (having forgotten that lebron outplayed curry so thoroughly in the last finals that they had to give the mvp to former nuggets mole andre iguodala)
you'd hear people saying that lebron just got by on his size and athleticism, while curry represented real fundamental basketball skills (because every young player should try 28 foot jumpers leaning right with no follow through over 7 foot defenders)
well the grind seems to have caught up to curry
you'd hear people saying that lebron just got by on his size and athleticism, while curry represented real fundamental basketball skills (because every young player should try 28 foot jumpers leaning right with no follow through over 7 foot defenders)
well the grind seems to have caught up to curry
How about the fact that 2 extra months means a helluva lot more to a rebounding and defensive specimen then it does to a shooter.. A 3pt shooter who never draws tough defensive assignments because he has two of the best defenders in the league to do his dirty work.
Lebron.. Sorry.. a player like Lebron is going to get 10x the physical punishment as a guy like Curry.
If the last two finals are any insight to how Curry fairs over a long season, coupled with having a team that's value can't be sustained..
He'll drop out of the picture sooner than Lebron will..
Lebron.. Sorry.. a player like Lebron is going to get 10x the physical punishment as a guy like Curry.
If the last two finals are any insight to how Curry fairs over a long season, coupled with having a team that's value can't be sustained..
He'll drop out of the picture sooner than Lebron will..
LeBron leads all players in these Finals (both teams) in points, rebounds, assists, blocks and steals. Despite sitting out the entire 4th Quarter of Game 2.
Enjoy him, folks, because we might not ever see another player like him.
Enjoy him, folks, because we might not ever see another player like him.
26/9.5/7.5 with 2.4 steals and 1.2 blocks per game in this postseason
on 53% shooting from the field
only non-big man better than him is jordan. and even that is somewhat debatable
on 53% shooting from the field
only non-big man better than him is jordan. and even that is somewhat debatable
Lebron also gets 10 times the protection by the refs. A big strong guy like him should not be flopping all of the time like he does. I'm starting to think he's been practicing in Cameron gym in the summers.
Disagree, in part. What he gets from the refs are his crab walks and movement calls. It's been widely discussed that Lebron, for being such an atheltic freak and a body specimen, doesn't get many contact calls because they generally don't affect him. If you bump Curry with the same force tou bump Lebron, it's a foul and Curry might be RIP.
Lebron gets calls but he also doesnt get calls. He can play through contact but a foul is still a foul. And for a superstar.. I dont really remember guys like Jordan and Kobe having to deal with that..
Lebron gets calls but he also doesnt get calls. He can play through contact but a foul is still a foul. And for a superstar.. I dont really remember guys like Jordan and Kobe having to deal with that..
I was unable to watch yesterdays game, full disclosure, so I missed whatever transpired. Had to pull an all-nighter the night before and was down by 9pm.
I fully believe the the league wants this to go to 7, so it wouldn't sueprise me if Lebron got some extra help last night.
I fully believe the the league wants this to go to 7, so it wouldn't sueprise me if Lebron got some extra help last night.
Agreed. It's a bit like what Shaq dealt with. There's almost no way to officiate a guy that big, strong and quick. Relative to position, LeBron is just as imposing.
If they called every "foul," he'd shoot 40 free throws a game, yet fans complain that he flops. If he didn't sell the contact, the refs wouldn't notice a sizable portion of it. He isn't flopping so much as making sure he actually gets his due.
I consider myself a Lebron fan, and I can't stand Draymond, Iggy, Curry, his annoying family, and the entire GSW bandwagon fanbase..
But.. had it not been for the Green suspension, this probably would have been a 4-1 series. Calling for a sweep isn't too far off. Instead, it gives Cleveland a game, and a chance to play one more at home which evened the series to 3-3.
That one-game Green suspension might have decided the series.
But.. had it not been for the Green suspension, this probably would have been a 4-1 series. Calling for a sweep isn't too far off. Instead, it gives Cleveland a game, and a chance to play one more at home which evened the series to 3-3.
That one-game Green suspension might have decided the series.
Having Green back definitely didn't make a difference last night. I'm not sure I heard his name mentioned one time. Curry and Thompson will be the deciding factors Sunday.
whether you love or hate LeBron doesn't matter - fact is, he's a damn good basketball player. Yes, he's gotten the benefit of calls over the years; but that tends to happen with a favorite. And he wouldn't be a favorite if he wasn't GOOD enough to be. The powers that be didn't just decide some kid was going to be a superstar because they said so. Lebron had to have the talent and skill to start with.
Just my opinion
Just my opinion
Green didn't have Bogut in the middle though and he's important for defense and switching. Many speculated that Green would still need help in the post. Last night, Thompson had a field day.. what like 9 rebounds in the 1st?
The NBA is officiated so differently than the NCAA that I find it difficult to identify what is truly a foul in the NBA and what isn't. However Steph and Klay missed a lot of shots they normally hit, so I don't think the "NBA wants a game 7" argument flys for last night.
Plus Steph has not looked his normal self at all this series, even in the first couple games where they dominated. So I would venture to guess that some on here are correct, the length of back to back seasons of going to the finals is really catching up to him.
Nobody cried for LeBron last year when he had to work with his atrocious supporting cast in the finals. At that point, it was like LeBron and the Knicks vs the Warriors.
I'm not a LeBron fan, but win or lose this next game (and the series), I still think he's the best player in the world and has an argument at GOAT. His argument just grows exponentially if he does what he's done the past 2 games, and wins the series against a dominant Warriors team, who hasn't lost a series in 2 years if I'm not mistaken.
Easily. Think we'd have two more titles if the games were officiated the same way.
Idk about that, but his parents should have made his middle name "Eleison"
Like him or not, he's an amazing scoring guard.
LeBron is a flat out beast. To say anything to the contrary is blasphemous. I'll say this , if I counted on one hand the best players of all time, he would be one of them. What makes that even more impressive is I only have 3 damn fingers. He's in rare company, simple as that.
I think LeBron has the highest skill level of any player I've seen. What's funny is that I think he truly is a Jim Brown caliber athlete. I really believe he could've played 2 sports at a high level and could've been great at any sport he wanted to be great at. I mean if he started young playing soccer or football good could he be now? Ito untelling. He's so big, fast, and coordinated that he would be unfair any almost anything. Agreed or disagreed?
I agree completely. Would be one hell of a tight end. Could you imagine defending him in the red zone?