What amazes me the most is that in three years Lee could not learn to make a 5 foot shot. If he wasn't dunking the ball he was not scoring. Not hating but how he ever rose to 5* status in HS is way beyond me.
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I can't help but wonder if this is just a nice way to sugar coat it for public consumption. Off the record, I think its quite possible he burned his bridges with UK by talking to Goodman. I think he thought for sure he was a solid second round pick and then blew up the wrong way at the combine and screwed himself.
You are either a Dukie or a 13 year old. Not much difference.
You are correct.
Sheray was a 70% FT shooter. Lee never will be.
Explain how you tailor your offense around a player with zero offensive capabilities.
Shockingly Marcus had the same vertical as Wiltjer...
We don't, but I'd be shocked if Bam doesn't have a very good year at least. Hopefully Humphries will be much improved, and Wynyard is better than we all think and can at least play spot minutes here and there if we have foul trouble. If Bam, Humphries and Sacha can be productive without averaging a foul every two minutes, that would be an improvement from last year. It would be much better knowing Lee was on the roster for sure though.
Our recruiting?
Who are you trying to fool here you worthless troll?
Like i have said in the past, Lee could have been a help to our frontcourt next season as long as it agreed with and understood his role on the team. If he would have agreed to be a backup big off the bench playing limited minutes and help our elite bigs get used to college basketball, he could have been a big help. I guess he thought his sklls demanded more. We all know that is not the case. If he didn't agree with that plan, it's best he decided to transfer. We can't have any team distractions next year when we are leaning on very young kids to lead our team to the Ncaa tourney. I'm not going to blast Lee for transfering. The kid saw the writing on the wall. He knew we recruited more talented bigs that he had no shot at beating for playing time. I'm not angry at Lee. I'm happy he gets to go somewhere and play more minutes. It will be at a school that isn't as elite as Kentucky, but good luck to the kid either way!
Pity. Our school is losing a great representative of young men everywhere. Can't say that I blame him. One more year at UK may not have helped improve his game, but sitting out a year and then playing another may help exponentially. Good luck Marcus . . . thanks for the exciting plays, especially in our '14 tourney run!
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He's probably more talented than Tai, but Humps? I'm not sure of that. The big Aussie kid will only get better with another kid of training and working out on the basketball court. I know Lee can run circles around Humps on the court, but at some point you have to understand there is more to basketball than running up the court faster than the rival player or jumping higher than the guy you are playing against. The fact that Humps can hit an open jumpshot places him way higher in basketball skills than Lee. We will never be a fast break type of team with Humps starting, but with that kid, we're not talking about starting. Humps can be a fine backup big that plays 10-15 minutes per game. If Lee was here starting for us, i wouldn't like our team's upside as much as him transfering out somewhere else. Humps was never considered an elite recruit so sometimes i have trouble understanding why so many fans demanded so much from the kid his freshman year of college basketball. It's not his fault our frontcourt sucked so much this past year and if he could have just been a lil better he could have started and helped our team so much. The game he costed us with his crazy Tech showed a lil glimpse without his rebounding in that game we wouldn't have even been in the game to begin with. That kid has more potential in his pinky finger than Lee ever had here at Kentucky. I like Lee as a person just fine, but let's not act like we're actually losing a talented basketball player. We are not.
He is a kid that still hasn't given up on his dream to play in the NBA. It is probably the best decision to transfer if he wants to pursue that dream because he will be recruited over every year at UK. He is just not that good.
The reality of the situation though is it is a piss poor decision. He should finish his degree at UK, move to Europe for a few years and make some easy money playing ball, then return to work in his chosen profession.
Too bad he has idiots advising him to pursue a dream that will never be realized.
The reality of the situation though is it is a piss poor decision. He should finish his degree at UK, move to Europe for a few years and make some easy money playing ball, then return to work in his chosen profession.
Too bad he has idiots advising him to pursue a dream that will never be realized.
I have been a Lee supporter the whole time. I was hoping he would be back. Great kid, great with community involvement and seemed like the kinda guy we want in a four year player.
BUT, if the 1%ers drove him away..., he has to be very thin skinned and will never make it a pro; unless he fixes that.
Good luck to him, but I think this will end up being addition by subtraction for UK and just subtraction for Marcus
Lee is a good kid by all accounts and was here for 3 years fighting for our Cats. We owe him thanks & respect for that. He is a remarkable athlete but just not a skilled basketball player. His basketball IQ and his natural BB instincts are very average IMO. Also just not enough of an alpha dog for a place like UK. Personally, I wish him the very best and will miss him. I don't think the team will though... JMO.
my bad on that. i was just trying to give perspective on marcus. he wasn't all that bad, and he did put up decent numbers for a bench player. part of the difficulty of playing at kentucky is that you don't become a star (or starter) based on past performance or tenure on the team. this happened to be a situation that didn't work well for marcus.
I found Catswin9 a new hobby:
Call me what you like, but ple
Coach Cal has probably already given up on them and working on getting the incoming freshman ready for a one year stay at UK. Then we can all have a party for the one's who move on to the NBA. No disrespect to the players, but I could care less once they leave the UK program. No one man or player is bigger than the UK program.
Lee is a fine young man, we can all agree on that. He displayed class his entire 3 years at U.K, but let's be honest: he simply is not a basketball player in any form or fashion. I wish him nothing but the best going forward, but as others have stated, it's the best move for Lee, and the best for the team, IMHO.
I think we all saw this coming...
Marcus never really broke out like we all thought he would...saw some glimpses, but he never was able to really be the freak athletic phenom we thought he would be...this year was a golden opportunity for him to make a name for himself in the absence of significant depth and talent in the front court...
he needs a year to really work on basketball specific skills...he's a freak athlete...but he doesn't dominate boards, doesn't have an offensive move, not really a shot blocking specialist...
he probably could have been drafted on just freak athletic potential after his freshman or sophomore year, but now I think scouts have gotten a lot of tape on him and really are wondering what else he can do for sure besides being a long athlete...
no shame in him realizing his best opportunity to get to the next level or at least some good money overseas is to go elsewhere and become the big man on campus, much like Wiltjer...
simply needs more specific individual attention/development and more minutes...two things I think he can get more of where he is the only legit pro caliber prospect...
He could tear it up in the West Coast Conference or Mountain West...Probably should have bounced last year...
Marcus never really broke out like we all thought he would...saw some glimpses, but he never was able to really be the freak athletic phenom we thought he would be...this year was a golden opportunity for him to make a name for himself in the absence of significant depth and talent in the front court...
he needs a year to really work on basketball specific skills...he's a freak athlete...but he doesn't dominate boards, doesn't have an offensive move, not really a shot blocking specialist...
he probably could have been drafted on just freak athletic potential after his freshman or sophomore year, but now I think scouts have gotten a lot of tape on him and really are wondering what else he can do for sure besides being a long athlete...
no shame in him realizing his best opportunity to get to the next level or at least some good money overseas is to go elsewhere and become the big man on campus, much like Wiltjer...
simply needs more specific individual attention/development and more minutes...two things I think he can get more of where he is the only legit pro caliber prospect...
He could tear it up in the West Coast Conference or Mountain West...Probably should have bounced last year...
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Man, if this CatsWin9 feller is as negative in real life as he is on the boards he's probably not that much fun to hang out with.
His measurables at the combine really debunked the freak athlete myth. I was shocked at how pedestrian they were.
Everybody is a troll who have opinions that do not follow the company line, so to speak.
It is amazing that we do have some fans out there that can still have an opinion like building a offense around a kid like Lee and actually believe it to be true. I just have to think those type of fans don't actually watch all of our games and just go by what rival fans think about a kid. That is the only thing that really makes sense to me. If you listen to a rival fan of Kentucky about Lee, they will tell you Lee is a 5 star can't miss prospect and also a mcdonald all american and didn't look the part only cause our offense did Lee no favors. They will also tell you Cal held Lee back and wouldn't allow Lee to do the things that make Lee look great. I don't know exactly what those things are, but they swear it's true. As a fan of Kentucky that watched every Kentucky game during Lee's time here at Kentucky, we all know it's not true and Lee has no post moves, nor can shoot the ball. He can't handle the ball. He has trouble fighting for position inside so it makes rebounding a lil harder for him. When you think about Lee's actual skillset in basketball, i don't know how in the world you can think a school could build their offense around Lee. If you were a school with a top 5 pick at point guard that likes to push the ball off of every missed shot, you might get a lil more out of Lee. Building your offense around Lee? No. You wouldn't score 50 points per game like that. If you can't get many lob dunks with Ulis as your point guard, i don't know what to tell you.
you are entitled to your own opinions as i am. after 2014, i felt marcus was going to break out. i think he just got lost in the glut of talent was had in 2015. but to your point, we really did have a top 5 pick pg this year, and it didn't help marcus do better (and with a thin front line, this should have been his year). i didn't think about it that way.
I think we've found the guy Tipton referenced in his article earlier this week. ^^^
Really do wish Lee good luck but, in all honesty losing him doesn't affect next year's title prospects very much. However, we are going to have to find a new lead air-guitar player, and pronto!
I see Lee transferring to a school where he could play men's volleyball immediately, and then basketball if he comes back for a 5th year after sitting out. Otherwise, he should go to a D-II school to be the Player of the Year and work on his conditioning.
I would be somewhat surprised to see Lee transfer to another D-1 school, sit out, and then play basketball only after trying so hard to make the NBA this year.
I would be somewhat surprised to see Lee transfer to another D-1 school, sit out, and then play basketball only after trying so hard to make the NBA this year.
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Sorry Bko, this is the only Russian lady I could find.
at least it wasn't that barbie doll wannabe
No, but you're an *** for posting that ridiculous "I could care less about them once they leave" BS.
All of those guys that leave still talk glowingly about their time here and paint UK in a favorable light.
I seriously hate fans like you who spew that "once they leave, blah blah" crap. ***