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given this list of big men (guys who will play PF/C), rank them in terms of how much they will play next season:

bam
bolden or lee
skj
gab
willis
humphries
wynard

if a kid is going to be the 3rd, 4th, or 5th option as just a big men in the rotation...yeah...little to nothing next year. and keep in mind...no platooning

Your list is off.

Bam

gap

Gabriel
Humphreys
Willis
Bolden

gap

SKJ
Wynyard
 

AllBall

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Give me Hump and Wynyard splitting time in the post and I think everything will be dandy. Adding Bolden might just be addition by subtraction. Bam needs as many touches as you can get him down in that post and it will be awfully crowded with another offensive mouth to feed. Some of our guys are going to need some more shot attempts to be effective and adding another big that is more offensive minded may upset the balance a bit. Now if Bolden was a surefire shot blocker he would a much greater need since neither Humphries or Wynyard are rim protectors, but he is average at best.
Wow. Do you know something about Wynard everyone else doesn't? Hump and Wynard are not the player Bolden is. Think of it as a fit thing. Bolden would be a quality piece to the puzzle. One he already has chemistry with the other expected starting freshmen. Secondly, his game allows others to play their natural positions. I'll take multiplication by addition.
 

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We can expect from Humphries what he is willing to put into his off season training. He could be a special player in the next year or two. I suspect he will have some big games next year. Meaning his performance will make a difference in winning a losing a couple games. He will be playing against top level competition in practice really for the first time. Let's see what he does with it.
 

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He is going to be real good by the time he graduates. He's not afraid to bump and grind when he's in there, and he takes up a lot of space under the basket. Playing against some of the best in practice will pay big dividends by his junior year.

OLD STOLL FIELD GUY!
 
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Needs to learn to get in better body position and fight for rebounds. Work on offensive skill sets. Better footing and be ready to play hard.

He has the talent to play anywhere and I'm glad he's a Cat.
 
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The physical development of boys age 17 into young men around age 19 is most dramatic. Hence the value of a redshirt year. Maturity, training table, workouts and practice all synergize to produce bigger, stronger and more capable athletes. Having this theater with Isaac & Tai on our team is going to be just . . .


GRAPE for us. Adding Bolden would not be a zero-sum addition. It would bring something near invincibility. Yeah, I'm pumping sunshine, hopeful about possibilities and excited about the whole flipping team and program. Cal's OAD program, while nothing new, remains as always, very fresh.
 
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and some people have already anointed him a role player, averaging 26 minutes a game and 10 points a game...you know...darius miller stats.

if i had a dollar each time someone claimed in the off season..."player X is going to surprise people" you want and see.
The only person speaking in absolutes in this thread is you.
 
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I think Humphries contributes significantly next year. I never understand why so many people assume the next frosh is the next Cuz...or Wall, etc.
I don't think anyone has those expectations of him. Rarely, do I see ppl on here, yes here, grossly overestimate a recruit like comparing Humphries to Cousins. He is taller than Wall btw.
 

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BBN is one of the biggest delusional fanbases when it comes to our players. Hump will likely never average 10ppg in his senior year, let alone next year.

Stop using Jorts as an example. He was an extremely rare case. Also Darius showed flashes of major talent during his career, enough to get him in the league for a couple years. I don't see Hump with that type talent or potential nor do I think he will ever get drafted or play in the league.

I think he can be a solid backup for us. Someone who we know we can put in and they hold their own and not hurt us but who isn't really good enough to take over a game. That's fine if that's all he ever ends up being. If by some chance he does have a major breakthrough and ends up a focal point of the team his senior year then that's great too. But one thing I can assure you is that he will not be good enough to leave early for the NBA. He could possibly end up making a summer league team after four years here though.
 

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Wow. Do you know something about Wynard everyone else doesn't? Hump and Wynard are not the player Bolden is. Think of it as a fit thing. Bolden would be a quality piece to the puzzle. One he already has chemistry with the other expected starting freshmen. Secondly, his game allows others to play their natural positions. I'll take multiplication by addition.

Frankly, no one knows anything about Wynyard, except John Calipari who thought enough of him to offer a very sought after scholarship. We don't know much about Bolden except of the few times that we saw him play against high school competition. At least we know what Humphries brings to the table against other college players. As many have said, there will undoubtedly be an uptick in his production. The consensus among those in the know is that Bam Adebayo is going to be very difficult to keep off of the floor. There are just so many shots in the post to go around and it was my contention that it may upset the situation in the front court. Never mind that Bolden has not committed as yet and many are simply looking at the talent that we have already in place.
 
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BBN is one of the biggest delusional fanbases when it comes to our players. Hump will likely never average 10ppg in his senior year, let alone next year.

Stop using Jorts as an example. He was an extremely rare case. Also Darius showed flashes of major talent during his career, enough to get him in the league for a couple years. I don't see Hump with that type talent or potential nor do I think he will ever get drafted or play in the league.

I think he can be a solid backup for us. Someone who we know we can put in and they hold their own and not hurt us but who isn't really good enough to take over a game. That's fine if that's all he ever ends up being. If by some chance he does have a major breakthrough and ends up a focal point of the team his senior year then that's great too. But one thing I can assure you is that he will not be good enough to leave early for the NBA. He could possibly end up making a summer league team after four years here though.

Oh, well if YOU don't see the talent, then it's clearly not there. Never mind what NBA scouts thought when they watched him for 2 days last October.
 
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this year? he probably wont play 10 minutes a game.

I'm sure you ^ were one of the 99% who said Willis was a wasted scholarship and would never see the floor.
Whereas I was the <1% who was saying before the end of his FR season that by his JR year Willis would be a contributor, with a chance at starting by his SR year.

I guarantee (baring an injury) that Humphreys will average more than 10mpg next year!
 

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I'm sure you ^ were one of the 99% who said Willis was a wasted scholarship and would never see the floor.
Whereas I was the <1% who was saying before the end of his FR season that by his JR year Willis would be a contributor, with a chance at starting by his SR year.

I guarantee (baring an injury) that Humphreys will average more than 10mpg next year!

willis is your example? really?

1.1 ppg as a fresh
1.3 ppg as a soph
7.7 ppg as a JR getting almost 20 minutes a game (probably wont see that much clock this year).

thanks for proving my point.
i'm sure those 10 minutes he will get will translate into a bucket and a few rebounds. as i said...little impact next year
 

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BBN is one of the biggest delusional fanbases when it comes to our players. Hump will likely never average 10ppg in his senior year, let alone next year.

But one thing I can assure you is that he will not be good enough to leave early for the NBA. He could possibly end up making a summer league team after four years here though.

Well I guess you know more than all the scouts that came to UK's workout this year lol... Our fan base is ridiculous in thinking that a 7'0 kid that should just now be graduating high school won't amount to anything other than a role player. This is the same kid who had the highest points scored in the Pan-Am 17 and under games last year with a 40 point and I think 18 rebound performance.
 
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Well I guess you know more than all the scouts that came to UK's workout this year lol... Our fan base is ridiculous in thinking that a 7'0 kid that should just now be graduating high school won't amount to anything other than a role player. This is the same kid who had the highest points scored in the Pan-Am 17 and under games last year with a 40 point and I think 18 rebound performance.

what did the scouts say? and if the scouts where so high on him...why is it none of the mock draft people (who speak with scouts) have him in mock drafts for 2017?

people get that the topic was for next year not 2 years from now....right?
 

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BBN is one of the biggest delusional fanbases when it comes to our players. Hump will likely never average 10ppg in his senior year, let alone next year.

Stop using Jorts as an example. He was an extremely rare case. Also Darius showed flashes of major talent during his career, enough to get him in the league for a couple years. I don't see Hump with that type talent or potential nor do I think he will ever get drafted or play in the league.

I think he can be a solid backup for us. Someone who we know we can put in and they hold their own and not hurt us but who isn't really good enough to take over a game. That's fine if that's all he ever ends up being. If by some chance he does have a major breakthrough and ends up a focal point of the team his senior year then that's great too. But one thing I can assure you is that he will not be good enough to leave early for the NBA. He could possibly end up making a summer league team after four years here though.
You're the last person on this board who should be judging talent. Malik Newman (cough,cough).
 
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what did the scouts say? and if the scouts where so high on him...why is it none of the mock draft people (who speak with scouts) have him in mock drafts for 2017?

people get that the topic was for next year not 2 years from now....right?

I trust the actual scouts more than some mock draft geeks that live in their parents basement.
 

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Hump needs a leader on the floor to get him into the game. Ulis helped him. If there is a guy like that this year, Hump will surprise.
Remember that Hump is from down under and he has a different view on life than most young american BB players.


He played for his country and held his own in International Play and he is a Kid!!!!! Just like the U.S. Top talent plays for our country.....so I think his view on Basketball is exactly the same he just happens to a lot more ROUNDED person than US recruits are. JMO.
 
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willis is your example? really?

1.1 ppg as a fresh
1.3 ppg as a soph
7.7 ppg as a JR getting almost 20 minutes a game (probably wont see that much clock this year).

thanks for proving my point.
i'm sure those 10 minutes he will get will translate into a bucket and a few rebounds. as i said...little impact next year

Now you are just being STUPID.

I'm not some homer that thought Willis would do good because he went to my high school, or because he is a KY kid. I live 500 miles away. But I remember watching him in limited minutes as FR, you could see he was athletic, and could pass. The rep said he could shoot too. You can tell by how a guy moves on the court if he has "it". PPG is a HORRIBLE stat, biased by mpg, shot attempts and the level of talent around you. His FR year the talent on UK went to the Championship game, and his SOPH year the talent at UK started out 38-0.
I would say a player 6th on the team in minutes, 5th in points and rebounds is being a contributor. In fact, I think few would argue that Willis wasn't our 3rd best offensive player last year. He will play about the same amount next year as well.
>99% of you thought he would never play more than cigar-minutes. I was RIGHT, you were WRONG!
 
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Now you are just being STUPID.

I'm not some homer that thought Willis would do good because he went to my high school, or because he is a KY kid. I live 500 miles away. But I remember watching him in limited minutes as FR, you could see he was athletic, and could pass. The rep said he could shoot too. You can tell by how a guy moves on the court if he has "it". PPG is a HORRIBLE stat, biased by mpg, shot attempts and the level of talent around you. His FR year the talent on UK went to the Championship game, and his SOPH year the talent at UK started out 38-0.
I would say a player 6th on the team in minutes, 5th in points and rebounds is being a contributor. In fact, I think few would argue that Willis wasn't our 3rd best offensive player last year. He will play about the same amount next year as well.
>99% of you thought he would never play more than cigar-minutes. I was RIGHT, you were WRONG!

on a mediocre team. got to put it in perspective a bit. uk fans like their fan favorite players...they set the bar lower for them. put up 6 or 7 points in a game...and its a the golden ticket.

whats going to be funny about all this...uk fans are going to be pissed one way or the other. cal is not platooning next year. so either willis will get minutes or humphries. and uk fans will be pissed off about it...even if we go undefeated.
 

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I have faith in this big Aussie kid. The fact that he was only 17 years old when he came to Kentucky. That is insane to think about. A 17 year old kid trying to play against more mature and developed big men. It's amazing that the kid even contriubted at all to our team this past season. In a couple of games if he didn't rebound the ball the way he did we probably would have lost. No, he can't fly up and down the court, nor can he jump out of the gym. When you are a big guy that is 7'0ft tall, you don't have to be able to do those things to be a good player in college. He's huge and with his body type, he can gain more strength and when that happens, he is going to be a hoss inside for us. This kid is still trying to learn the game of basketball from one of the best coaches in the game. I think he will be a huge surprise by his junior year of college basketball. He's the type of player that many on here want to see Cal land and when he does, these same people are crying if the kid isn't looking like Shaq every game he plays. He will pay off big time in the future. In the mean time, the way Cal recruits, he has time to learn the game and doesn't have to put too much pressure on himself to help right away. I expect this coming season he will get 10+ minutes a game and the season after is when this kid will truely be ready to start and be the player Cal and some of us Kentucky fans always thought he could become.
 
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Your list is off.

Bam

gap

Gabriel
Humphreys
Willis
Bolden

gap

SKJ
Wynyard
Humphries couldn't clinch consistent playing time last year with very little competition. The fact we're recruiting Bolden should make it obvious the staff doesn't trust him yet.
 

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The fact we're recruiting Bolden should make it obvious the staff doesn't trust him yet.

That is a little harsh. Trust him for what? He came here a 17 year old. I was surprised by his spurts of production in games. Firm believer that Ulis deserves credit for that. Cal wants Bolden for what Bolden might bring to the team. Not for any distrust in Humphries.
 

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Oh how I would have loved to read the reviews of some of the self-anointed basketball experts on here after Nazr Mohammed's freshman year. I'll wager we wouldn't have gotten any predictions of a 18-year NBA career.

for every one nazr there are about four or five sheray thomas types. and people always remember the final great year...but forget the years prior where little impact was given.

i dont know why people keep confusing this. there is a difference in what to expect next year and what to expect 2 years from now. few (if any) are saying he is going to be terrible in 2 years. is this that hard to separate?
 

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Nazr was an important piece on a team that reached the 1997 final game as a sophomore -- one year after he could barely get up and down the court, not two. Humphries showed more promise as a 17 year old freshmen than Nazr did as an older freshman. And throwing in a random Sheray Thomas reference in a comparison between freshmen centers indicates if anyone is confused by this conversation it might be you.

not confused at all...now i'm sold. humphies will be significant next year. cant wait to see it.
 
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Humphries couldn't clinch consistent playing time last year with very little competition. The fact we're recruiting Bolden should make it obvious the staff doesn't trust him yet.
Yes because Cal only wants 1 good player st each position. So the recruitment of Bolden means we have no other centers, just like Briscoe last year meant Cal didn't trust Ulis.

You can find every few years guys who went from inconsistent minutes one year to significant minutes the next. Similarly guys who were not 5 star recruits who became contributors.
Estil, Daniels, Fitch, Mohammad, Magloire, Miller, Epps, Harrelson, WCS, Liggins, Willis.
 

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Yes because Cal only wants 1 good player st each position. So the recruitment of Bolden means we have no other centers, just like Briscoe last year meant Cal didn't trust Ulis.

You can find every few years guys who went from inconsistent minutes one year to significant minutes the next. Similarly guys who were not 5 star recruits who became contributors.
Estil, Daniels, Fitch, Mohammad, Magloire, Miller, Epps, Harrelson, WCS, Liggins, Willis.

in order to have the proper perspective....please all the lower rated guys during that same time span who never became contributors.