Duke Insider Andrew Slater Just Changed Pick For Bolden To UK

Jakarii

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Doesn't work that way. A recruited basketball player can't go to walk on status and give up his scholarship for a new recruit. Only option is someone transferring or going pro. No other option!!!


QUOTE="pharm727, post: 4502262, member: 7152"]I think Cal should offer Bolden a scholarship, if Lee and Briscoe come back ask Hawkins to walk on.[/QUOTE]
 

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Hawkins like Willis under valued on this board cuz they dont have multiple stars by their name...we lose to UL this past season..think on that for a minute or two
 

Jakarii

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Most likely he won't start but he'll get way more than 12 minutes He's going back up the power forward in the center mean he will get at least 20 minutes a game. Jeter is zero threat to take his minutes. Minutes won't be at issue for him at Kentucky nor will it be a issue at Duke

Besides Allen coming back of course, one of the reasons people started talking about Duke being so strong next year was because of Jefferson coming back. No way does Bolden start over him. Barring an injury to a key frontcourt player, I don't see Bolden getting more than 12 mins a game for Duke. I think he could get around 20 for us.
 

Jakarii

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Don't understand I will as being undervalued Hawkins I can understand because he was a nonfactor in way more games than he's been a factor for his career. It has nothing to do with stars and everything to do with production. He's good for his role as a 8th man who provides energy and defense


Hawkins like Willis under valued on this board cuz they dont have multiple stars by their name...we lose to UL this past season..think on that for a minute or two
 

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What might have happened: Duke insiders heard Bolden to UK if Lee leaves, figured Lee was gone based on his comments. Then the list for the combine came out and Lee was not invited, so they switched back to Duke because they think Lee is coming back and that leaves no spot for Bolden. That scenario makes the most sense to me.
 

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I said ask not tell! I think if Hawkins were asked that he probably would.
You think so? LOL!! How in hell would you know how the Hawkins family would respond to an awkward insult like that? Calipari isn't that stupid.
 

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Doesn't work that way. A recruited basketball player can't go to walk on status and give up his scholarship for a new recruit. Only option is someone transferring or going pro. No other option!!!


QUOTE="pharm727, post: 4502262, member: 7152"]I think Cal should offer Bolden a scholarship, if Lee and Briscoe come back ask Hawkins to walk on.
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First, let me say I'm not debating what you (or anyone else, for that matter) has said about the giving-up-a-scholarship issue--- and I know it's been covered several times, and I want to avoid the eye-rolls...

but I do want to know when the NCAA made that a rule?

I remember all sorts of giving-up-scholarship shenanigans with the UCons and their efforts during the Andre Drummond situation, in 2010 or 2011. I'm guessing the rule was modified... AFTER the Cons got Drummond, of course? Just asking anyone for that clarification, or if I'm remembering the Cons-Drummond recruitment incorrectly.
 

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You really think Hawkins would be more important to UK than Bolden next season?If Briscoe returns I don't see Hawkins playing much at all next season.
I think lots of posters are seeing stars. Hawkins flat out won the Louisville game for us. He is a solid player with skills, and his playing time will increase next year. I am not suggesting Hawkins will be a star. I am not suggesting he is better than Briscoe. But the hysteria on this board over Bolden is overdone. Have you seen Bolden play? He is a pretty good baseline prospect with a solid base, but I don't think he is OAD unless he is willing to settle for the 2nd round. Adebayo is clearly better and more skilled. IMO Dakari Johnson is a good comp for Bolden, but Bolden might have a hard time getting onto the court at the beginning of next year.
 
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If I am reading correctly, your understanding is inaccurate. Dominique Hawkins was recruited and signed to a scholarship by Calipari after he was MVP in the Kentucky High School championship tournament. NCAA scholarships are renewable annually. So Hawkins came to Kentucky on scholarship. He could be taken off scholarship next year, but that would be a bad idea. I know a lot of fans are really hung up on stars, and haven't learned much from Marcus Lee and Skal Labissiere. But even if Bolden somehow ends up at Kentucky, I think there is a decent chance Hawkins could be a more valuable player than Bolden next year. If Hawkins comes to Calipari on his own initiative and offers to give up his scholarship, that's 1 thing. Calipari will not suggest the idea to Hawkins, and he certainly shouldn't. That would be an insult to a dedicated, hard working, contributing scholarship player. It would send a negative message to every future player considering Kentucky because it would say they are disposable commodities. It's a penny wise pound foolish kind of idea.


You might want to check that. I believe you are inaccurate. You can't be placed on a scholarship and then taken off and placed on walk on status. No matter if scholarships are renewable yearly(which I knew that they were renewable yearly). If that were the case, schools would do that all the time. It can't be done and you can't be on football scholarship and taken off and placed on a basketball scholarship or any other sport. Bear Bryant used to do that to save football scholarships and they stopped it from my understanding.
 
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You might want to check that. I believe you are inaccurate. You can't be placed on a scholarship and then taken off and placed on walk on status. No matter if scholarships are renewable yearly(which I knew that they were renewable yearly). If that were the case, schools would do that all the time. It can't be done and you can't be on football scholarship and taken off and placed on a basketball scholarship or any other sport. Bear Bryant used to do that to save football scholarships and they stopped it from my understanding.
http://m.newsok.com/article/3483962
Also, have you ever heard of Marquis Estill, he did it here . You can't go off bball scholly and be placed on a different scholly, but you can pay your own way and not count, use google.
 
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I thought the rule had been modified whereby a scholarship player could not go to walk on status to make room for a new recruit; could be mistaken though.

I want Bolden because he's a true center, a center who has the ability to make post moves and score, something we sorely lacked last year. He also would provide Bam the ability to play the 4, his natural position. He also gives us depth in the frontcourt. It's a win/win situation for UK.
Yes, we need him but without him we're still a formidable team.
 
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I thought the rule had been modified whereby a scholarship player could not go to walk on status to make room for a new recruit; could be mistaken though.

I want Bolden because he's a true center, a center who has the ability to make post moves and score, something we sorely lacked last year. He also would provide Bam the ability to play the 4, his natural position. He also gives us depth in the frontcourt. It's a win/win situation for UK.
Yes, we need him but without him we're still a formidable team.
http://nesn.com/2011/08/uconn-baske...g-recruit-in-another-uncomfortable-moment-in/
Another example.
 
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This rule was changed a few years ago.

Any player who was recruited as a scholarship player (Hawkins) still counts against the 13 regardless if put on academic scholarship, no scholarship, etc....

The only way Bolden works is if someone leaves, either transfers or goes to NBA.
Link?
 

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I almost want Duke to get him. With Tatum and Allen there's going to be like 4 opportunities for him to score in a game backing up Jefferson. I could see that locker room imploding.
 
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2 things pertaining to the Bolden recruitment thst will go down in rafters lore...


...ej will give up his Scholly so we will have one and scholarship players can't pay their own way.

Why would a player not be allowed to pay for tuition
 

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Capel getting salty?

Very salty! It's pretty comical, actually. When you have as many lottery picks as we've had, they don't go to good teams, they go to REBUILDING franchises. Apparently, that wonderful dUKe education didn't help Capel comprehend that fact!
 

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I'd say without him we're top 10. With him that means Duke don't have him. I'd say we're number 1 and the favorite for a title.
 

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because he made a couple of shots?

he was terrible on defense in that second half. let aTm back in the game almost singlehandedly at one point

he ain't good enough
Ah, the hate still flows thru you....

[eyeroll] At any of your Willis takes
 

Ulis2Towns

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Mediocre-Average pros, minus Irving,that just happen to be playing on good teams.
Luol Deng is better than any SF UK has ever produced...lets not get too cocky.

I really hope Wall, Boogie and Davis don't waste away on mediocre teams for their entire career.

Winning championships/being clutch in the Playoffs is what separates "good players" from "great players".
 

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Luol Deng is better than any SF UK has ever produced...lets not get too cocky.

I really hope Wall, Boogie and Davis don't waste away on mediocre teams for their entire career.

Winning championships/being clutch in the Playoffs is what separates "good players" from "great players".
Stfu troll. Jamal Mashburn says hi. Mods take out the trash.
 

Nubb16

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Luol Deng is better than any SF UK has ever produced...lets not get too cocky.

I really hope Wall, Boogie and Davis don't waste away on mediocre teams for their entire career.

Winning championships/being clutch in the Playoffs is what separates "good players" from "great players".
Mashburn was a 3 in the NBA and so was Taushaun. Both better than Deing in their prime or maybe a wash with Tayshaun.
 

ukfan041

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Luol Deng is better than any SF UK has ever produced...lets not get too cocky.

I really hope Wall, Boogie and Davis don't waste away on mediocre teams for their entire career.

Winning championships/being clutch in the Playoffs is what separates "good players" from "great players".
Prince, who won an NBA title and a gold medal, crushes that argument! Come on, Dookie....surely, you can do better!