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"Three recruits slam dunk. Enforcement agents dream"
Didn't see anything new,same old BS except others see the situation for what it is,a coverup that McGee was paid off to take the rap for.
Doesn't matter if Pitino knew or not,He's guilty either way,and it's naive for anyone to think this crap went on for 4 years with Pitino not having an inkling.
seems like everyone knows he's guilty but without more proof the win at all costs cardinals want more of the same
 

Ineverplayedthegame

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Obvious that UL's strategy is to build their firewall at McGee. If he stonewalls, and they can't follow the money, what happens?
 

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Pitino continues to spin this where he is the victim. We don't know for aure if he knew anything about all of this. I just don't see how a micro manager like Pitino knew absolutely nothing about something so scurrilous going on right under his nose for 4 years.

If it had been only 1 or even 2 times I could possibly understand him not knowing, but 22 times? I'm sorry but that is just not possible unless Pitino is just completely stupid and naïve. I don't think he is either.
 

Ineverplayedthegame

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Pitino continues to spin this where he is the victim. We don't know for aure if he knew anything about all of this. I just don't see how a micro manager like Pitino knew absolutely nothing about something so scurrilous going on right under his nose for 4 years.

If it had been only 1 or even 2 times I could possibly understand him not knowing, but 22 times? I'm sorry but that is just not possible unless Pitino is just completely stupid and naïve. I don't think he is either.
I think he was content with the "just a party" explaination. Didn't want to know more. Just another Saturday night in the dorm like Chris Jones' episode.
 
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mdlUK.1

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They've got 3 recruits that said it happened. If no one else cooperates, they still have enough to hammer them. Especially if ul stonewalls.

Bottom line is, the ncaa doesn't need proof. They go by"what a reasonable man believes is true". Or at least that's what it was when UK was going through their investigation.
 

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3 recruits confirmed they were given 200-500$ and everyone at the parties was given stacks of money, was huge. Three people confirmed large amounts of money were being spent at these parties by a coach for high school kids to have sex with strippers in a dorm room while on recruiting trips. THIS IS FREAKING HUGE (that's what she said)

As hard as Eric Crawford tried to down play how much money was spent, this totally shot his narrative to pieces and PROVES someone else was backing this financially

We're looking at around 50,000$ from 22 parties
 

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It's funny...I watched it and thought Sullivan was being guarded in Louisville's favor. Over on their Scout forum they are ripping into him for his Oswald comment.
 
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McGee could likely cut some type of immunity deal with the NCAA in return for providing the smoking gun that buries Pitino and the UL program. But, McGee's attorney is a huge UL supporter whose interests are much more aligned with UL than McGee. Would not be shocking if UL money source is funding Andre's legal defense and silence.
 

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They've got 3 recruits that said it happened. If no one else cooperates, they still have enough to hammer them. Especially if ul stonewalls.

Bottom line is, the ncaa doesn't need proof. They go by"what a reasonable man believes is true". Or at least that's what it was when UK was going through their investigation.

This is true. Just ask Derrick Rose.
 
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One new thing that came out of it is that they seem to want to pit Rich Rick against the hooker who can't string two sentences together. I wish they had played the clip of him saying it. That won't play well for 3 stacks.

Also did anyone notice one of the lapdogs trying to say Bingham's comments were "taken out of context" and not really referring to Ricks behavior???? She clearly referenced the Sypher incident.
 
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I think he was content with the "just a party" explaination. Didn't want to know more. Just another Saturday night in the dorm like Chris Jones' episode.

How do we know that both situations are not connected? Jones let his buddies in after he was done...........she reported it as a rape and it was thrown out?
 

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Upon further reflection, these are the things I think came from the program....

* McGee is lawyered up for a reason, the biggest effect this show will have on U of L is the fact that he looked like a guilty man wanting this whole thing to go away. The 60 Minutes effect. Optics, as they call it today.

* Powell: "They're trying to dump all this on Andre" and "I got the impression they knew who Coach Mike is". Also, her comments about how Pitino assumed she couldn't write a book can be used against Pitino in recruiting, wouldn't you think?

* Sullivan "I find it easier to believe that Oswald acted alone than Andre McGee." His only contribution, but a memorable line.

* The three recruits being a slam dunk for investigators. That is now out there and will change the way U of L handles things, I would think.

* Sullivan's assertion that Ramsey getting fired would HELP Pitino. Suggests a rift there.
 

awf

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Well,somebody definitely set up a party through McGee after he left and was at UMKC, So no way the buck stops at McGee,just wonder what recruits had to say about that affair?


I have wondered if this is proven what it does to Antonia Blakeney and LSU? Also the Lyle kid at Ohio St.?
 

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I have wondered if this is proven what it does to Antonia Blakeney and LSU? Also the Lyle kid at Ohio St.?

I would think it wouldn't affect them, since they didn't go to the school that tried to pay for their services. But I don't know.
 

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I have wondered if this is proven what it does to Antonia Blakeney and LSU? Also the Lyle kid at Ohio St.?
Most Likely granted them immunity if they talked,because one of them ,Jaquan Lyle I believe denied it at first and after the other talked came back after an NCAA Meeting and admitted it

Either way there is enough evidence to hang the Cheaters