Now That Florida is Back

PTUKBlue

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Florida's first Final Four was in 1994. So a bit longer than that.
Bradley has a final four. Charolette has a final four. Also Drake has a final four. None are relevant. I'll describe to you what is considered relevance. It is sustained success over and extended period of time. For you, that's really only a ten year period. For us, its much much longer. That's the difference. Honestly tho I have no beef with you. You seem like a legit poster. Shady is a troll. I always pull for SEC teams in the tournament when they don't play UK. I pulled for every SEC team during the Big 12 vs SEC challenge. I have pulled for Florida a lot. The same can't be said for most other SEC teams in regard to UK basketball. It's a knock a lot of Louisville fans give us UK fans. We always thump our chest and stick up for other fello SEC teams. Doesn't seem like our SEC brothers feel the same about us. So yea, I do take it personal when rival sec fans knock us on our board. The FSU fan however, makes me smile. That's just affirmation of our relevance. When your rival comes to our board to stick up for you, how else could you take that.
 

MJWilliamson

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Bradley has a final four. Charolette has a final four. Also Drake has a final four. None are relevant. I'll describe to you what is considered relevance.

Do they have three finals, five total final fours and two NCs, back to back? Because that is the only way your argument makes any sense.

It is sustained success over and extended period of time.

Of course it is. Five Final Fours, Three Finals and Two NCs over a 22 year period describes exactly that.

For you, that's really only a ten year period.

A 22 year period of excellence is a bit longer than 10 years.

For us, its much much longer. That's the difference.

At what point was I comparing Florida to UK?

So yea, I do take it personal when rival sec fans knock us on our board.

With what remark did I knock UK?

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CastleRubric

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Who I want it to be : Tennessee
(one of our biggest historical basketball rivals)

Who I think it will be: Texas A&M
(odd choice, right? I think they're going to emerge from the West as the best team for a few years and will be our new rival by default)
 

ZenCatFan73

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We have a season where we have 6 losses and and opposing fans come out of the woodwork. Florida has had some success, but don't come on here talking smack and expecting to get respect afterwards. Further, after you just got curb-stomped. Take your loss like a man/woman and be done with it.
 

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First, Kentucky has a winning record in your swimming pool arena. Second, all those accomplishments came from your former coach. It's a whole new ballgame with a new coach. Nothing out there today showed me he's anywhere close to what you've lost.

The same could be sent about all of your 'history' - Most of it came from your former coaches (i.e, Gillespie, Tubby Smith, the infamous Ricardo Pitino, Eddie Sutton, Joe B Hall, etc. - I only followed college basketball from the mid 80s, so i'll stop there.). :sunglasses:
Additionally, you cannot ignore recent history i.e, the last 5-6 years. Whatever you like to toot under Calipari, ie NC's FF's, SEC's, 18-0, etc, the Gators are looking at you right in the eye and can claim almost the same! No other SEC program today is even close to the Univ. of Florida in basketball - they've all tried (i.e, LSU, Tenn, Ark, Alabama, etc.) and have fallen on their faces!

Calapari - 1 White - 0 (Let the games begin!) :)


Kentucky may not win by 19 in Gainesville, but Kentucky certainly should be favored to win the game there. If they decide to play, they'll probably win by about 8-10.

We'll see. Only FSU defeated us at home this year by a couple of points.
Florida plays much better at home and often have blown out their opponents this year.
Kentucky is 2-4 on the road and have struggled just like the Gators have done so also.


Historically, that will make the series 99-37, so not competitive at all. In addition, next year should cross the century mark against the Gators. For such a momentous occasion, Florida should do something to honor Kentucky for that remarkable accomplishment.

Congrats to Kentucky on the series lead! The Wildcats have really dominated SEC basketball since 1933 when the league first began. While other SEC programs (i.e, LSU, Alabama, etc.) have won SEC titles here and there, I'll bet Florida's 37 wins are probably ranked near your top 5 opponents who have ever defeated your team the most. I do know that of all of the teams in college basketball, Florida had the longest winning streak against UK - seven straight games. I know that UK had bigger, multiple streaks against UF so I'll give you that but the fact is that the UF basketball team have been one of Kentucky basketball's fiercest rivals/opponents.
http://www.bigbluehistory.net/bb/statistics/OpponentRecords.html

UK record against following SEC teams (not updated for this season)
--------------UK vs.---------
1. Tennessee: 151 - 68 (31%)
2. Vanderbilt: 141 - 46 (24.5%)
3. Florida: 98 - 37 (27.4 %)
3. Alabama: 106 - 37 (25.8%)
5. LSU: 86-26 (23.2%)
5. Georgia: 119 - 26 (17.9%)
7. Auburn: 91 - 18 (16.5%)
7. Miss St: 86 - 18 (17.3%)
9. Ole Miss: 104 - 13 (11.1%)
10. South Carolina: 49 - 11 (18.3%)
11. Arkansas: 28 - 11 (28.2%)
12. Texas A&M: 5 - 2 (28.6%)
13. Missouri: 9 - 0 (0.0%)

I have not included the records of non SEC teams like Notre Dame, Indiana, North Carolina, Duke, Georgia Tech, Tulane, Louisville, etc.

Note: Almost all of Florida's 37 wins against UK have come under our last three coaches:
1. Norm Sloan (Won a NC at NC ST & stopped UCLA's streak of titles); Won Florida's first SEC title and first three ncaa bids.
2. Lon Kruger: Took Florida to its first Final4 in '94(4th ncaa bid).
3. Billy Donovan: Took Florida to 2nd Final4 & first N-RU in '00(7th ncaa bid);
back-to-back NC's in '06, '07(13th, 14th ncaa bids); 5th FF4 in '14(18th ncaa bid)
 
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BigBlueCatNation

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Congrats to Kentucky on the series lead! The Wildcats have really dominated SEC basketball since 1933 when the league first began. While other SEC programs (i.e, LSU, Alabama, etc.) have won SEC titles here and there, I'll bet Florida's 37 wins are probably ranked near your top 5 opponents who have ever defeated your team the most. I do know that of all of the teams in college basketball, Florida had the longest winning streak against UK - seven straight games. I know that UK had bigger, multiple streaks against UF so I'll give you that but the fact is that the UF basketball team have been one of Kentucky basketball's fiercest rivals/opponents.
http://www.bigbluehistory.net/bb/statistics/OpponentRecords.html

UK record against following SEC teams (not updated for this season)
--------------UK vs.---------
1. Tennessee: 151 - 68 (31%)
2. Vanderbilt: 141 - 46 (24.5%)
3. Florida: 98 - 37 (27.4 %)
3. Alabama: 106 - 37 (25.8%)
5. LSU: 86-26 (23.2%)
5. Georgia: 119 - 26 (17.9%)
7. Auburn: 91 - 18 (16.5%)
7. Miss St: 86 - 18 (17.3%)
9. Ole Miss: 104 - 13 (11.1%)
10. South Carolina: 49 - 11 (18.3%)
11. Arkansas: 28 - 11 (28.2%)
12. Texas A&M: 5 - 2 (28.6%)
13. Missouri: 9 - 0 (0.0%)

I have not included the records of non SEC teams like Notre Dame, Indiana, North Carolina, Duke, Georgia Tech, Tulane, Louisville, etc.

Note: Almost all of Florida's 37 wins against UK have come under our last three coaches:
1. Norm Sloan (Won a NC at NC ST & stopped UCLA's streak of titles); Won Florida's first SEC title and first three ncaa bids.
2. Lon Kruger: Took Florida to its first Final4 in '94(4th ncaa bid).
3. Billy Donovan: Took Florida to 2nd Final4 & first N-RU in '00(7th ncaa bid);
back-to-back NC's in '06, '07(13th, 14th ncaa bids); 5th FF4 in '14(18th ncaa bid)

Florida is tied with Notre Dame for the longest winning streak vs. Kentucky. Florida has given Kentucky somewhat of a fit imhistorically. However I use that term very loosely. It's kind of like Florida being the tallest midget....
 

BigBlueCatNation

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Real Time RPI has not been updated for yesterday's games, but that site projects a 6 point Florida win in the rematch

Massey's Ratings gives Florida over a 60% chance of winning the the rematch, which equates to about a 5 or 6 point win.

Lol I'll wait until the game gets closer before I'm concerned with any site that is giving the home team the edge after an absolute thrashing on the the road. If Kentucky only won by 10, I would understand. Kentucky won by 19, so I don't put any thought into those ridiculous sites.
 
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I don't think Florida is going to fall into the abyss...give the new guy some time to really establish some roots and he should do well...still a relatively young and inexperienced, especially in a big boy conference...

Florida is just too big of a brand to not be competitive...

as for a team that could really be a thorn in our side right now and for the near future...South Carolina...Frank Martin is a good coach and builds solid teams that are extremely competitive...his squads usually play extremely hard and are usually very aggressive...
 
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We'll see what happens to Florida in the next few years.

I think UK fans doubt continued success from SEC teams because we haven't ever seen it yet.
Arkansas, LSU, Tennessee, Miss State are examples of this. They've had periods of great success only to sink back to the bottom of the conference.