There should be acknowledgment and acceptance of responsibility as to why this is such a huge problem. I don’t think that’s too much to ask. I’m sick of you guys acting like these are saints that fell out of the sky one day. The Democrats were actively incentivizing law breaking full stop man. I’m not trying to be an ******* but it’s frustrating to try and reason with you. Not only did that party stop punishing the law breaking, they made it easier and encouraged it, how can you align with that. It’s disgusting.
The reason I had stopped responding is that you aren’t arguing with the words people are actually saying. You’re arguing against caricatures of the opposition as you see it in your mind. At no point have you read me say Biden did a good job on the border (or really in general tbh). Can you point me to where anyone has said these guys are saints? That’s the **** I’m talking about. No one is saying that. You’re making things up and then arguing against them as if that position is ridiculous (it’s bc it is. It was just made up, by you).
I also am disappointed that out of my entire post, this is what you pulled out lol.
I also don’t see any remorse or sympathy from the folks on the left that caused this. Disappointed in the party of tolerance. The fact you’re arguing for a specific due process is another problem. They got the due process entitled to them. You know that. So you are misleading too!
You don’t see how starting with something like that may invalidate the seriousness of the rest of it?
You play the Muhammad Ali rope a dope.
He's right in that you're arguing over a scenario you invented but it's actually a fallacious argument that doesn't hold water.
The dem party and all supporters collectively own the disaster otherwise known as the Biden occupation.
This is stupid though. You want to do this for 40 million people?
can you find me a single reputable source for that number or you just going by vibes?
I'm just telling you illegal immigration has been going on for over 50 years. The 10-15 million is just what we saw over the 4 years during Biden.
Agreed on your first sentence. They should definitely try to compromise and pass legislation to try to fix it.
They did. Republicans refused to vote for it.
We now have a real life demonstration of what is possible to do at the souther border. We just need more of it. More border patrol. More wall. Proof of concept has been 100% successful.
Seems like the right decision was made not to compromise. They were wanting amnesty for those that had been here for more than a few months. I’m all for bipartisanship but it needs to make sense.
Of course amnesty was in tha bill. Give amnesty to millions and then plan do everything possible above and below board to ensure that the border was never secured. Then use that inital grant of amnesty as precedent for future expansion of it.
I also think they were looking to gain votes in the short term. That’s why they were allowing them to travel to different states on taxpayer dimes. The hope was to resettle them in places like Ohio to create D voters in those swing states. It’s pretty diabolical considering these are people being used as political pawns.
What were the amnesty parts of the bill, truly having trouble finding it. Seems like so much of what Trump is doing or wants to do is covered by the bill. The bill honestly left no one happy (conservatives thought it was too lax, liberals too harsh, which is honestly likely a decent sign of compromise). Bill made it harder to claim asylum, put more money towards agents, clerks, etc to expedite everything (aka if not legit they don’t get to stay here) and when not fast increase detention centers. Also gave the president more power to expel people not entering a port of entry. Even gave DHS more power as well. Bill was co-authored by an immigration hard liner from Oklahoma, and originally endorse by the BP.
They expanded refugee status and criteria as opposed to calling it amnesty. They made it easier to claim asylum intentionally. I think that was the argument based on my understanding. IMO the bill isn’t great but it’s not terrible. The actions of D’s before the bill were atrocious and I don’t think people saw that as a good faith solution after what had been going on at the border.
I just keep being told we don’t have the resources to afford every person their constitutional right to due person, which is frustrating considering there was a bipartisan bill to give more resources to just such a thing.
You know what is really frustrating to me? It's people that worry more about foreigners than united states citizens.
It’s OK. You can tell from Trump’s tweet this morning that we are about to suspend Habeus corpus.
I think it matters that we require the government to confirm the first is not the second.
You also keep being told that under Expedited Removal Act that due process is being applied administratively by two separate border agents as per the law signed into effect by Bill Clinton, but that’s not good enough for you. For some reason that was ok for Clinton and Obama but not this administration. The reason we don’t have the resources is we had an administration illegally open the border, this was not an issue (to this magnitude) prior to the Biden administration full stop. We have said this 50 million times, you don’t get to illegally open the border, illegally provide them with money and phones and plane tickets, illegally resettle them all over the country, then ***** and moan when they’re removed. They. Are. Illegal. You’re so damn worried about this interpretation of law but what about the 100’s of thousands trying to enter the country the right way and do this legally, you spit in their face as much as you spit in the faces of Americans that are impacted by this. We are not rewarding illegal behavior by giving them phones, money and court dates and indefinite stays in our country. Get over it. I know you’re sensitive so I want say your bff did this. But that’s what happened. They created a huge problem, then tried to crowbar their solution for the problem they created that wasn’t there. Bunch of morons in that administration.
Democrats want to rule with an iron fist. Can you imagine if girl boss retard Kamala was president? I’m not sure the country would have survived four more years of stupid.
