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rcalwho said:
This landslide thing is always so strange to me. Trump got 77.3M votes, around 4M fewer votes than Biden got in 2020. He only won by about 2.3M votes...and in an election when roughly 9M fewer people voted than in the prior one. Way more people DIDN'T vote (89.3M) than voted for Trump. There was no landslide.
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1) The News Media was stacked against him
2) They used US Government resource against him
3) He won Every.Single.Swing.State
4) Against all odds he won the popular vote
5) As Stephen A Smith pointed out, 89% of counties shifted to the right from the previous election

- Trumps approval rating is sky high since taking office.

That, my friend, isn't a mandate. It's an overwhelming mandate. He should only pick people loyal to the MAGA agenda. The government isn't supposed to be a permanent bureaucracy.
 
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fatpiggy said:
1) The News Media was stacked against him
2) They used US Government resource against him
3) He won Every.Single.Swing.State
4) Against all odds he won the popular vote
5) As Stephen A Smith pointed out, 89% of counties shifted to the right from the previous election

- Trumps approval rating is sky high since taking office.

That, my friend, isn't a mandate. It's an overwhelming mandate. He should only pick people loyal to the MAGA agenda. The government isn't supposed to be a permanent bureaucracy.
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1) LMAO
2) LMAO
3) That doesn't make it a landslide. He won those 7 states by a COMBINED 761,000 votes...he won Wisconsin by 29,000 votes. In those 7 states he had 16.1M votes for him and 15.4M votes against him. These are slim margins friend, not a landslide.
4) Tempting to just say LMAO, but he won the popular vote because people didn't like his opponent (and didn't turn out to vote, remember those 9M people who voted in 2020 and then didn't vote in this one?).
5) Just because they shifted doesn't change the numbers that I mentioned above and before, he won by 2M votes in an election where 9M people decided not to vote when they did in the previous election. He got 4M fewer votes than Biden in 2020. 12M more people didn't vote at all than did vote for Trump.

Ok your approval rating comment is actually hilarious in that it's just flat wrong? Just take a look here: https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/approval/donald-trump/
There is no mandate here. 75M people voted against him, 89M people didn't vote. And given that his approval rating is already dropping to a net disapproval, and given that the chair of the National Republican Congressional Committee has been advising GOP lawmakers to stop holding town halls after their constituents expressed anger at what Trump is doing, I think its pretty clear to everyone that there is no mandate.
 
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fatpiggy said:
1) The News Media was stacked against him
2) They used US Government resource against him
3) He won Every.Single.Swing.State
4) Against all odds he won the popular vote
5) As Stephen A Smith pointed out, 89% of counties shifted to the right from the previous election

- Trumps approval rating is sky high since taking office.

That, my friend, isn't a mandate. It's an overwhelming mandate. He should only pick people loyal to the MAGA agenda. The government isn't supposed to be a permanent bureaucracy.
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Trump’s downward trajectory​

"The worm is beginning to turn on President Trump.

His dishonest blathering notwithstanding, Trump never earned particularly strong support from American voters.

Though he frequently praises himself for winning the popular vote, Trump’s victory was thin by historical standards. Fewer than 50 percent of voters cast their ballots for him while his margin over Vice President Harris was less than 1.5 percentage points.

Only nine presidential elections in our history were won by lesser margins. Nineteen presidential elections yielded true landslide victories of 10 points or more. Trump’s advantage was nowhere close to that.

And he’s still not particularly popular. Using Gallup data, on average, going back to President Eisenhower, presidents earned approval from 60 percent of Americans in their first February. Trump’s February approval rating — 45 percent — is the lowest on record, except for his rating in February of his first term.

More important, the president’s approval rating is deteriorating. Days after his inauguration, the number approving of his performance was 8.5 points higher than those disapproving, according to the RealClearPolitics’ aggregation of all the polling. By Monday, that advantage had narrowed to just 1 point.

538.com, another aggregator using somewhat different methodology, posted nearly identical numbers — an 8.2-point approval margin just after Trump took office, which declined to 7/10ths of a point Monday.

Make no mistake, two things are true at the same time. A narrow plurality approves of Trump’s performance. But that plurality is shrinking as fewer voters approve and more disapprove.

A president’s approval rating is significant because it is one of the most important weapons he wields in political combat. A president’s political power is directly proportional to his approval rating. Members of Congress fear crossing a president with 70 percent approval and fear being seen with a president sporting a 30 percent approval rating."

 
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dpic73 said:

Trump’s downward trajectory​

"The worm is beginning to turn on President Trump.

His dishonest blathering notwithstanding, Trump never earned particularly strong support from American voters.

Though he frequently praises himself for winning the popular vote, Trump’s victory was thin by historical standards. Fewer than 50 percent of voters cast their ballots for him while his margin over Vice President Harris was less than 1.5 percentage points.

Only nine presidential elections in our history were won by lesser margins. Nineteen presidential elections yielded true landslide victories of 10 points or more. Trump’s advantage was nowhere close to that.

And he’s still not particularly popular. Using Gallup data, on average, going back to President Eisenhower, presidents earned approval from 60 percent of Americans in their first February. Trump’s February approval rating — 45 percent — is the lowest on record, except for his rating in February of his first term.

More important, the president’s approval rating is deteriorating. Days after his inauguration, the number approving of his performance was 8.5 points higher than those disapproving, according to the RealClearPolitics’ aggregation of all the polling. By Monday, that advantage had narrowed to just 1 point.

538.com, another aggregator using somewhat different methodology, posted nearly identical numbers — an 8.2-point approval margin just after Trump took office, which declined to 7/10ths of a point Monday.

Make no mistake, two things are true at the same time. A narrow plurality approves of Trump’s performance. But that plurality is shrinking as fewer voters approve and more disapprove.

A president’s approval rating is significant because it is one of the most important weapons he wields in political combat. A president’s political power is directly proportional to his approval rating. Members of Congress fear crossing a president with 70 percent approval and fear being seen with a president sporting a 30 percent approval rating."

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The thing is, y’all tried to kill him and missed.

We simply don’t care Margaret.
 
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fatpiggy said:
The thing is, y’all tried to kill him and missed.

We simply don’t care Margaret.
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The majority of the country no longer cares that you don't care Ms Prissy and we will be reminding you of that until you and your sort are gone with the wind.
 
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dbjork6317 said:
And how a major part of it was changing federal employees to schedule F so that the President could hire/fire them? And then remember how it was suggested this might lead to the administration putting “loyalty tests” in place and hiring only people who were politically loyal instead of actually qualified and competent? Then ya’ll remember how Trump said he didn’t endorse project 2025, and ya’ll said that people were being ridiculous and it would never happen?

Well… If this ain’t Fascism I don’t know what is.

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remind me, was project 2025 the one that was the plan to make democrats dance around like chickens and sing funeral dirges on tv? if that's the one--then it is working.
 
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dbjork6317 said:
And how a major part of it was changing federal employees to schedule F so that the President could hire/fire them? And then remember how it was suggested this might lead to the administration putting “loyalty tests” in place and hiring only people who were politically loyal instead of actually qualified and competent? Then ya’ll remember how Trump said he didn’t endorse project 2025, and ya’ll said that people were being ridiculous and it would never happen?

Well… If this ain’t Fascism I don’t know what is.

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My apologies for not asking earlier, are you atheist, or agnostic?
 
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Allornothing said:
If you had been in this forum for longer than 5 minutes, you would know that the person I was responding to (not you) has an open apathy to religion. That's where the question came from. It's got it's own thread:


Due to the fact it has an outward disdain of religion, I was asking a question also.
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Yes, I usually hang out in The West Zone and haven't let myself wander into the politics forums...seems like I should stick to that rule.
I took a look through that thread and there is a lot of "empathy is a sin" energy there in the responses, that's what stood out the most to me.
 
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rcalwho said:
Yes, I usually hang out in The West Zone and haven't let myself wander into the politics forums...seems like I should stick to that rule.
I took a look through that thread and there is a lot of "empathy is a sin" energy there in the responses, that's what stood out the most to me.
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Pull up a chair and stay a while. There's no need to devoid yourself of one of life's great pleasures.

Empathy is definitely in short supply around here, myself included.

You should at least check this out:

 
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dpic73 said:

Trump’s downward trajectory​

"The worm is beginning to turn on President Trump.

His dishonest blathering notwithstanding, Trump never earned particularly strong support from American voters.

Though he frequently praises himself for winning the popular vote, Trump’s victory was thin by historical standards. Fewer than 50 percent of voters cast their ballots for him while his margin over Vice President Harris was less than 1.5 percentage points.

Only nine presidential elections in our history were won by lesser margins. Nineteen presidential elections yielded true landslide victories of 10 points or more. Trump’s advantage was nowhere close to that.

And he’s still not particularly popular. Using Gallup data, on average, going back to President Eisenhower, presidents earned approval from 60 percent of Americans in their first February. Trump’s February approval rating — 45 percent — is the lowest on record, except for his rating in February of his first term.

More important, the president’s approval rating is deteriorating. Days after his inauguration, the number approving of his performance was 8.5 points higher than those disapproving, according to the RealClearPolitics’ aggregation of all the polling. By Monday, that advantage had narrowed to just 1 point.

538.com, another aggregator using somewhat different methodology, posted nearly identical numbers — an 8.2-point approval margin just after Trump took office, which declined to 7/10ths of a point Monday.

Make no mistake, two things are true at the same time. A narrow plurality approves of Trump’s performance. But that plurality is shrinking as fewer voters approve and more disapprove.

A president’s approval rating is significant because it is one of the most important weapons he wields in political combat. A president’s political power is directly proportional to his approval rating. Members of Congress fear crossing a president with 70 percent approval and fear being seen with a president sporting a 30 percent approval rating."

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Stop it.

These polls are stupid and flat out inaccurate. You should know, based on the results of the election, just how wrong polls are.
 
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letsgocu said:
Stop it.

These polls are stupid and flat out inaccurate. You should know, based on the results of the election, just how wrong polls are.
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You are remembering the 2016 election where the polls were historically pretty bad...they were actually pretty good for the 2024 election. 538's final call was a pure tossup, and the final margin of error was something around 2.5% (which is a really good margin of error for polling). The "polls are dumb" meme is nearly a decade old at this point.
 
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letsgocu said:
Stop it.

These polls are stupid and flat out inaccurate. You should know, based on the results of the election, just how wrong polls are.
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Are you disputing the two sentences I bolded? Those are pretty objective statements so not sure how you can call them wrong.

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Only nine presidential elections in our history were won by lesser margins. Nineteen presidential elections yielded true landslide victories of 10 points or more. Trump’s advantage was nowhere close to that.
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Trump’s February approval rating — 45 percent — is the lowest on record, except for his rating in February of his first term.
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Since this is a Project 2025 thread, I found this progress tracker that shows out of 299 objectives this administration has completed 91 of them with 43 more currently in progress:
https://www.project2025.observer/
Current objectives in progress include:
- Abolish the Consumer Protection Bureau
- Reduce regulations on cryptocurrencies
- Eliminate the Low Income Heat & Energy Assistance Program
- Privatize the National Weather Service
- Break up the Department of Education
 
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CUTiger1977 said:
She's representing.
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I guess she's trying to be a teenager again in her 60s/70s. Most people grow up, but she hasn't.

These politicians fail to realize they are not representing the American people, but the people are starting to wake up.
 
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If you’re wanna be king continues his reign of stupid anti American crap he’s got less than 24 months before congress gets its balls back.
 
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dpic73 said:
Are you disputing the two sentences I bolded? Those are pretty objective statements so not sure how you can call them wrong.
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First sentence is fact. Let’s not forget that our two most populous states are made up primarily of degenerate left wing idiots with crazy ideologies. He swept the swing states.

2nd is a poll.
 
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rcalwho said:
You are remembering the 2016 election where the polls were historically pretty bad...they were actually pretty good for the 2024 election. 538's final call was a pure tossup, and the final margin of error was something around 2.5% (which is a really good margin of error for polling). The "polls are dumb" meme is nearly a decade old at this point.
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He’s taking a poll of 100 people to prove a point about the entire nation. Stop.
 
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