Southern Border Invasion

lctiger843

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Tell me exactly how they are paying those state and federal taxes being undocumented workers? Even if that is somehow occurring do you think it's adding up to the near 500B that the federal govt is spending on illegal immigrants per year?
Read my previous reply on how they are able to pay both state and federal taxes. It happens in every single state. Also, its not just the fault of the immigrants, who do you think hires them and exploits them for cheaper wages?
 

TigerGrowls

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Read my previous reply on how they are able to pay both state and federal taxes. It happens in every single state. Also, its not just the fault of the immigrants, who do you think hires them and exploits them for cheaper wages?
What you posted iis not a proven documented fact and even if a fraction are doing its still illegal. What you just posted is literally your personal opinion based on some you know which is nothing with all due respect. I will concede they do pay sales tax on a mass basis. I have nothing against legal immigration and would support a reasonable system being put in place after the border is locked down. The first step that has to occur is to secure the border.
 
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What you posted iis not a proven documented fact and even if a fraction are doing its still illegal. What you just posted is literally your personal opinion based on some you know which is nothing with all due respect. I will concede they do pay sales tax on a mass basis. I have nothing against legal immigration and would support a reasonable system being put in place after the border is locked down. The first step that has to occur is to secure the border.
Ah yes, don’t know anything about the subject? My wife is a Venezuelan that happened to use the Trump immigration program. Try again, sweet heart.
Also, she has been around the Latino AND Eastern European population that have stolen SSN’s. if it’s bad here, it’s even worse in states that simply don’t care.
Now, please try and educate us on your vast experience in the immigration policies. With all due respect, of course.
 
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lctiger843

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What you posted iis not a proven documented fact and even if a fraction are doing its still illegal. What you just posted is literally your personal opinion based on some you know which is nothing with all due respect. I will concede they do pay sales tax on a mass basis. I have nothing against legal immigration and would support a reasonable system being put in place after the border is locked down. The first step that has to occur is to secure the border.
I was once ignorant like you on immigration. I didn’t know anything at all. It wasn’t until it affected me that I started actually paying attention to the policies.
Was Trump more strict on the border wall? Absolutely. I have border patrol friends to corroborate that. However, as far as policy goes for Immigrants living here, it was the same ole BS from BOTH sides of the aisle.
I will say, it is quite funny to hear from immigrants about our politics. Wife and MIL said Bernie Sanders and AOC reminded them of Chavez/Maduro in VZ. The new progressives are scary with their talks about guns and social programs. All they want to do is work over here and it seems like there is always some type of bureaucratic red tape every step they take.
 

TigerGrowls

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Ah yes, don’t know anything about the subject? My wife is a Venezuelan that happened to use the Trump immigration program. Try again, sweet heart.
Also, she has been around the Latino AND Eastern European population that have stolen SSN’s. if it’s bad here, it’s even worse in states that simply don’t care.
Now, please try and educate us on your vast experience in the immigration policies. With all due respect, of course.
I am correct. Your sampling size is minutely small and cannot be factored. What they are doing is also illegal. I understand your point of view but you have been co opted into a special interest because you love your wife and I can understand and respect the feeling.

Uncontrolled mass illegal immigration is a very bad thing for our nation and we are amassing more national debt due to it with no vote and no approval from the citizens.
 

TigerGrowls

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I was once ignorant like you on immigration. I didn’t know anything at all. It wasn’t until it affected me that I started actually paying attention to the policies.
Was Trump more strict on the border wall? Absolutely. I have border patrol friends to corroborate that. However, as far as policy goes for Immigrants living here, it was the same ole BS from BOTH sides of the aisle.
I will say, it is quite funny to hear from immigrants about our politics. Wife and MIL said Bernie Sanders and AOC reminded them of Chavez/Maduro in VZ. The new progressives are scary with their talks about guns and social programs. All they want to do is work over here and it seems like there is always some type of bureaucratic red tape every step they take.
Quit getting touchy and triggered. I did not personally insult you but just said I disagree with your opinion and still strongly do after your posts.
 
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TigerGrowls

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TigerGrowls

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Should I believe whatever you make up instead?
So we obviously have record breaking numbers of illegal immigrants coming in and just because Mayorkas and company choose to term them legal then you are good with it like its not even occurring?
 

dpic73

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So we obviously have record breaking numbers of illegal immigrants coming in and just because Mayorkas and company choose to term them legal then you are good with it like its not even occurring?
Do your own research outside of the tinfoil media and they all say the same thing. The flow of migrants has slowed substantially since Title 42 ended.
 
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So we obviously have record breaking numbers of illegal immigrants coming in and just because Mayorkas and company choose to term them legal then you are good with it like its not even occurring?
LoL dead wrong as usual. The numbers have gone down significantly since the Trump policy expired, which is the exact opposite of everything the magas said would happen.
 
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TigerGrowls

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LoL dead wrong as usual. The numbers have gone down significantly since the Trump policy expired, which is the exact opposite of everything the magas said would happen.
Numbers are not going down and if you believe they are then you are not smart.
 

dpic73

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Numbers are not going down and if you believe they are then you are not smart.
"Since the CDC’s Title 42 public health Order lifted and the Biden-Harris Administration’s comprehensive plan to manage the border went into full effect on May 12, DHS has continued to experience a significant reduction in encounters at the Southwest Border.

As a result of planning and execution—which combined stiffer consequences for unlawful entry with a historic expansion of lawful pathways and processesunlawful entries between ports of entry along the Southwest Border have decreased by more than 70 percent since May 11. DHS has overseen significant expansions in lawful pathways even as we have repatriated a significant number of migrants.

From May 12 to June 2, 2023, DHS repatriated over 38,400 noncitizens under Title 8 authorities, including single adults and families, to more than 80 countries. This includes over 1,400 noncitizens from Cuba, Haiti, Nicaragua, and Venezuela who were returned to Mexico under Title 8 authorities—the first time in our bilateral history that the Government Mexico has allowed the repatriation of non-Mexican nationals at the border under Title 8 authorities.

Thousands more are being detained by CBP and ICE and processed by USCIS to assess their asylum claims under the new Circumvention of Lawful Pathways regulation. Those found not to have a credible fear have been and will continue to be expeditiously removed."

 

TigerGrowls

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"Since the CDC’s Title 42 public health Order lifted and the Biden-Harris Administration’s comprehensive plan to manage the border went into full effect on May 12, DHS has continued to experience a significant reduction in encounters at the Southwest Border.

As a result of planning and execution—which combined stiffer consequences for unlawful entry with a historic expansion of lawful pathways and processesunlawful entries between ports of entry along the Southwest Border have decreased by more than 70 percent since May 11. DHS has overseen significant expansions in lawful pathways even as we have repatriated a significant number of migrants.

From May 12 to June 2, 2023, DHS repatriated over 38,400 noncitizens under Title 8 authorities, including single adults and families, to more than 80 countries. This includes over 1,400 noncitizens from Cuba, Haiti, Nicaragua, and Venezuela who were returned to Mexico under Title 8 authorities—the first time in our bilateral history that the Government Mexico has allowed the repatriation of non-Mexican nationals at the border under Title 8 authorities.

Thousands more are being detained by CBP and ICE and processed by USCIS to assess their asylum claims under the new Circumvention of Lawful Pathways regulation. Those found not to have a credible fear have been and will continue to be expeditiously removed."

FAKE NEWS!
 

TigerGrowls

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WTF?? US border patrol cutting razorwire installed by state of TX to allow illegals to enter.

 

dpic73

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Do we want this in America? France is on fire and its spreading.


Im confused, y'all love the Muslims when they attack gays but now you don't want them? I mean, I get how threatening a rainbow can be but it's funny how immaterial that becomes when they burn down shopping centers. Whose side are you on?
 

TigerGrowls

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Total insanity especially considering the fact that the US is flat @$$ broke and going deeper fast.

 

dpic73

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Total insanity especially considering the fact that the US is flat @$$ broke and going deeper fast.


What a simpleton take on a complex situation. Do you know who pays for the unpaid medical bills of these immigrants? The hospitals do and then it's passed down to you and me, that's who.
 

TigerGrowls

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What a simpleton take on a complex situation. Do you know who pays for the unpaid medical bills of these immigrants? The hospitals do and then it's passed down to you and me, that's who.
We have no disagreement then. We are paying for it no matter the route the billing takes.
 

dpic73

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TigerGrowls

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