Haven't heard any thoughts on this traitor!!
Edward Snowden
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Is he a traitor though? He leaked info on our own government spying on its citizens, sounds like a patriot to me playa
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And maybe there are those in the US that deserve to be spied on. Not everyone here is a patriot.
So that’s a green light to no privacy for any citizen? That’s where you and I disagree. If someone shows probable cause, then yes. If it’s a free for all like the patriot act, then absolutely that’s gonna be a no for me
Can’t draft him for special military operation if he’s not a citizen. I say go for it.
Just calling him a traitor is an overly simplistic way to look at what he did. But taking up residence in Russia is definitely a bad look.
Of course you’re correct. However, the NSA was and is spying on virtually every single US citizen, 99.9% of which are regular old Americans who are certainly no threat to the state.
BTW, uh , playas. This guy leaked GBs of information that no one could read in 10,000 years.
A whistle blower has a clear wrong that they want to right. This guy just dumped as much secret info as could get out there without knowing what it all was. Patriot??? He’s more like an influencer that needs attention.
A whistle blower has a clear wrong that they want to right. This guy just dumped as much secret info as could get out there without knowing what it all was. Patriot??? He’s more like an influencer that needs attention.
He ratted out the NWO… he should receive a medal
Exactly who determines the NWO??? Could you provide a roster???
I feel like this is a shot at me, but whatever. It seems like you think you know more than you actually do, and that’s ok. I’m ok with whistleblowers exposing deep state secrets if it pertains to our privacy. You may be ok with it, but some aren’t. I think his act was patriotic, but you may think it’s treasonous.
I'm not sure he had any choice.
Not surprised in the least OP thinks ES is a “traitor”
The govt could start rounding people up on trains and he’d sign up to help
The govt could start rounding people up on trains and he’d sign up to help
Exactly, where’s he going to go? Out of all the options, I’d probably pick Russia as well
Pretty sure the green light was lit with the Patriot Act. Everything else just ensued.
he needs to keep his *** in russia . Maybe he will be drafted by his new country to fight in the war against ukraine and get his needle dick blown off.
He could have, at least, pulled a Daniel Ellsberg and disclosed his info while still in the U.S. but he, instead, fled the country before "ratting out" whoever. And now he's been granted citizenship in Russia. Not a great look. Perhaps they should send him to Ukraine to fight for his country.
Dude don’t get him started. Cause he will definitely give you a roster.
American Hero
Anyone who thinks otherwise is misinformed on what transpired
Anyone who thinks otherwise is misinformed on what transpired
Was anyone prosecuted as a result of his whistleblowing? Were there any hearings? anything?
They’re not misinformed, they’re just modern day loyalists who will defend the government no matter what war crimes it commits or what civil liberties it infringes upon
if you’re still defending the government after the past couple decades you always will regardless of what transpires
Unless you had a family member or someone you know was an operative and was compromised/killed as result of the leaks, that’s a weirdly strong take.
I work in national security and he’s always in our yearly training slides. I think if you sign up to serve this country (whether civil or militarily) and use information to harm it, that is seditious at worst. But I don’t care if he keeps his dick.
OP is a complete idiot who probably has a Ukraine flag in his front yard .
Clicked on this thinking he was name the Gameday Guest Picker….
considering he’d be incarcerated till death here what choice does he have.
There are tons of countries without extradition to the US that are far superior than Russia. My *** would be sitting in the Maldives with dyed hair and a ****** mustache
Do you honestly think if you pulled what Snowden did against the feds that you’d be safe in the Maldives? Realistically you’d have a couple options, handful at best. Take your pick
how the hell could anyone call this guy a traitor? he literally gave up the entire life he'd built here to expose the govt illegally spying. left almost everything he had behind, lost touch with friends and family knowing it would likely be forever. seems a bit extreme to call a guy willing to give that up to expose illegal govt surveillance - if you are not outraged by that you deserve to live in a cage. the cost to him was fleeing abroad by himself hoping to find a place he could at least remain free. he didn't benefit from this at all....how the fk you call him a traitor?
and do your homework as pointed out above re his landing in russia. the us govt pinned him there and patted themselves on the back for doing so, he didnt intend to stay. and he absolutely had no coordination with russia to divulge anything. jesus the mccarthyist muppets in this country .... they are the absolute worst. its a mental disease.
and do your homework as pointed out above re his landing in russia. the us govt pinned him there and patted themselves on the back for doing so, he didnt intend to stay. and he absolutely had no coordination with russia to divulge anything. jesus the mccarthyist muppets in this country .... they are the absolute worst. its a mental disease.
I'm not sure he's a hero but I do think it's a ridiculous take to call someone who exposed that our government was illegally spying (and there is no doubt and has been proven that it was illegal) on our citizens a traitor.
Well, he did end up in Russia with a bunch of documents he stole, and not all of them had anything to do with the average citizen that was supposedly spied on.
For starters…. The Illuminati, headed by the Rothchild’s & to name handful more, Rockefeller’s, Freeman’s, DuPonts, Kennedy’s, Li’s, Onassis’s Morgan’s, just to name a handful. …… The Committee of 300, formerly run by Queen Elizabeth, some others, Warren Buffet, Bill Gates, the late John McCain, Prince Charles, Dick Chaney, The late Colin Powell, to name a handful, many global leaders…… Black Nobility, Run Hollywood & Music Industry.
(nothing to do with skin color)
Other entities involved…. Skull & Bones, Bilderbergers, 33Degree Masons, Knights of Malta, FBI, CIA, Massad, Interpole, World Bank, NASA, NATO, IMF, The Vatican, Secret Science (Covid), The Media, Big Oil, Insurance Companies, Auto Industry, WHO, EPA, ATF, Big Pharma, council On Foreign Relations, to name a handful
Wrong NWO but the real NWO is what gave them the idea. V. McMahon is in the NWO himself