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Essolover4

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Could someone delete this ****. Thank you.

how do you pray for healing for a fellow TI member and post this at the same time? Pretty low
No. They have nothing to do with one another. I can absolutely pray for someone to heal while at the same time calling out lies and manipulation going on . Nobody denies Covid is real . But the level of corruption and manipulation involved in the pandemic is insane.
 

Willence

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Lots of people up for the Herman Cain Freedom Award on TI

I know you're better than this but I can't let it go. Don't be such a piece of ****. Just a ridiculous answer from someone who's been rather ridiculous lately in general. Get a grip on yourself and realize you don't have all the answers and many of these so-called experts you cling to don't know their *** from first base.

And as for the video, who knows if it's real or not. I don't believe much of anything I see anymore whether it's suits my bias or not. They're a liars everywhere and people seeking to manipulate everyone and everything. Stop by and all that crap.
 

padtigers

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Be honest. Once the government started paying more to hospitals for treating Covid patients you had to know the numbers would be skewed. The virus is real and deadly for some. But both of my statements can be true without taking a shot at either side.
 

anon1753124268

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I know you're better than this but I can't let it go. Don't be such a piece of ****. Just a ridiculous answer from someone who's been rather ridiculous lately in general. Get a grip on yourself and realize you don't have all the answers and many of these so-called experts you cling to don't know their *** from first base.

And as for the video, who knows if it's real or not. I don't believe much of anything I see anymore whether it's suits my bias or not. They're a liars everywhere and people seeking to manipulate everyone and everything. Stop by and all that crap.
The Herman Cain Freedom Award is reserved for people that are idiots and don’t get vaccinated because the are wrong and guilty of being duped by fake news.
 

tigerGUY

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Lots of people up for the Herman Cain Freedom Award on TI
WTF do you mean? You go off on Cain and I'll search for you, find you and meet you at Wachovia. Herman Cain was a credit to America. Look no further than the division of people in this country TODAY to see Obama's agenda. The Libtard's/Obama agenda worked to perfection under that POS.
 

anon1753124268

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WTF do you mean? You go off on Cain and I'll search for you, find you and meet you at Wachovia. Herman Cain was a credit to America. Look no further than the division of people in this country TODAY to see Obama's agenda. The Libtard's/Obama agenda worked to perfection under that POS.
The Herman Cain award. Google it.
 

Essolover4

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I’m pretty firmly right of center, and I don’t see an issue here. If someone is admitted to a hospital for COVID, then they recover enough to move floors, but not leave the hospital, they’re still hospitalized because of COVID, no?
Do you see an issue with them trying to scare/coerce people into getting vaccinated? Trying to convince people if they don’t get the Vax “they’re going to die” lol. Let’s talk to marketing and see how we can do that. Some people who move floors are no longer positive for Covid , are on the mend, and will soon be released. They’re not active cases at that point.
 
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padtigers

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The Herman Cain Freedom Award is reserved for people that are idiots and don’t get vaccinated because the are wrong and guilty of being duped by fake news.
Just want to point out. Tonight both head coaches for Clemson Women's soccer team and Pitt are out with positive Covid tests. They are both fully vaccinated. I know it limits the symptoms and helps keep you from the hospital but acting as though the vaccine is 100% effective is simply not true. Better to be vaccinated or have antibodies than not but there are still grey areas
 
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Did anyone actually listen to the conversation? They have a group of people who are “post covid” that are still in the hospital recovering from covid and whether or not to continue to consider them covid patients (include them in the hospitalized covid patients number).

Absolutely, Carolyn chose her words poorly. And out of context it sounds even worse. But these are health care providers who have tried everything to get people to do what is in their own best interest. Avoiding ‘sugar coating’ the hospitalization numbers so that they may be taken more seriously may not be liked by some….but I don’t see how anything was fabricated here. Why wouldn’t all persons in a hospital bed because of covid be counted?

@Essolover4 should know to start this ridiculousness on the round table by now.
 

lherndo

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I’m pretty firmly right of center, and I don’t see an issue here. If someone is admitted to a hospital for COVID, then they recover enough to move floors, but not leave the hospital, they’re still hospitalized because of COVID, no?
It's the "We need to be... more scary to the public... If you don't get vaccinated, you know you're going to die." part that should concern you. They count those people you're talking about as "recovered" they want to not tell you about anybody "recovering" and just scare you.

That's not what should be happening at all. Just be transparent and tell us the damn truth.
 

anon1753124268

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Just want to point out. Tonight both head coaches for Clemson Women's soccer team and Pitt are out with positive Covid tests. They are both fully vaccinated. I know it limits the symptoms and helps keep you from the hospital but acting as though the vaccine is 100% effective is simply not true. Better to be vaccinated or have antibodies than not but there are still grey areas
The vaccine is 100% effective with what it was made to do.
 

Essolover4

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The Herman Cain Freedom Award is reserved for people that are idiots and don’t get vaccinated because the are wrong and guilty of being duped by fake news.
Or……a lot of people have very good reasons for not getting vaccinated. Everyone in my family has recovered from Covid and has natural immunity. I got blood work done last week and had antibodies. Get over yourself and your “one size fits all” position of the Vax. Sounds like you’ve been duped. We need a Joe Biden Socialist award for people like you.
 

P. Marlowe

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Do you see an issue with them trying to scare/coerce people into getting vaccinated? Trying to convince people if they don’t get the Vax “they’re going to die” lol. Let’s talk to marketing and see how we can do that. Some people who move floors are no longer positive for Covid , are on the mend, and will soon be released. They’re not active cases at that point.
It’s disingenuous and belies a false and unearned sense of superiority and a certain level of stupidity. But, it wasn’t really the hospital. It was one doctor who sounded like she was probably a yuge **** anyways. Not really fair to paint an entire hospital or system negatively. My best friend and his wife are both doctors at that hospital.

And, I maintain my original point. If I go into the hospital with a compound fracture of the femur. When they move me out of the icu or wherever the hell I would be put originally, I’m still in the hospital for a broken femur.
 

anon1753124268

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Or……a lot of people have very good reasons for not getting vaccinated. Everyone in my family has recovered from Covid and has natural immunity. I got blood work done last week and had antibodies. Get over yourself and your “one size fits all” position of the Vax. Sounds like you’ve been duped. We need a Joe Biden Socialist award for people like you.
Oh. Natural immunity. I’ll still pray for you if you end up in the hospital with a preventable illness.
 

padtigers

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I also wanted to say this. I lost my Grandpa last week. He was 94 years old. So he goes in to the hospital with no Covid symptoms and they test him. He is Covid positive. 100% vaccinated. He passes away from internal bleeding that had nothing to do with Covid. Death Certificate had Covid related. Not sure how I feel about that being on his Death Certificate when his illness had nothing to do with Covid.
 
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Essolover4

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It’s disingenuous and belies a false and unearned sense of superiority and a certain level of stupidity. But, it wasn’t really the hospital. It was one doctor who sounded like she was probably a yuge **** anyways. Not really fair to paint an entire hospital or system negatively. My best friend and his wife are both doctors at that hospital.

And, I maintain my original point. If I go into the hospital with a compound fracture of the femur. When they move me out of the icu or wherever the hell I would be put originally, I’m still in the hospital for a broken femur.
That’s one audio that was leaked. I think you’re being Naive if you don’t believe a lot of people and organizations are trying their very best to use fear as a weapon. It’s evil man. It’s wrong . If the people have recovered and are on their way out they shouldn’t be counted as active cases. They want to keep the number as high as possible for their own agenda. How is that okay?
 

Essolover4

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Oh. Natural immunity. I’ll still pray for you if you end up in the hospital with a preventable illness.
You’re blind my dude. And I’m betting you’d do like you’ve done in the past and repost every past negative post I’ve made about vaccines and masks. That’s what Libs do. They love to grave dance when someone who speaks out a different opinion dies. It’s sad.
 
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anon1753124268

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You’re blind my dude. And I’m betting you’d do like you’ve done in the past and repost every past negative post I’ve made about vaccines and masks. That’s what Libs do. They love to grave dance when someone who speaks out a different opinion dies. It’s sad.
What’s sad is people dying.
 
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padtigers

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What’s sad is people dying.
I totally agree. I hate seeing all those shooting deaths in Chicago every damn weekend. I mean if the Mayor would let the police actually do their jobs how many lives could be saved? I also hate seeing all the overweight people that eat themselves into many health issues. I am in no way doubting the severity of Covid. For some it is an absolute beast to overcome.
 

kudzuking

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That’s one audio that was leaked. I think you’re being Naive if you don’t believe a lot of people and organizations are trying their very best to use fear as a weapon. It’s evil man. It’s wrong . If the people have recovered and are on their way out they shouldn’t be counted as active cases. They want to keep the number as high as possible for their own agenda. How is that okay?
What is the agenda?

Having to cancel elective procedures because of limited beds and/or resources has an enormous impact on the bottom line. The suggestion that it behooves hospitals to inflate numbers is not grounded in reality.
 

Willence

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The Herman Cain Freedom Award is reserved for people that are idiots and don’t get vaccinated because the are wrong and guilty of being duped by fake news.

He died before there was a vaccine. It is a disgrace you're ok with making fun of such a great American. Even if you disagreed with his politics. I would say you should be ashamed but it seems obvious at this point you have none. I'm embarrassed for you.
 
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Essolover4

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What’s sad is people dying.
Agreed. The vast majority people dying (vaxxed and unvaxxed) have alot of things in common. Elderly and/or multiple comorbidities. It’s still very sad. If you want to be angry at someone be angry at the Chinese Communist Party.
 

fcctiger12

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That’s one audio that was leaked. I think you’re being Naive if you don’t believe a lot of people and organizations are trying their very best to use fear as a weapon. It’s evil man. It’s wrong . If the people have recovered and are on their way out they shouldn’t be counted as active cases. They want to keep the number as high as possible for their own agenda. How is that okay?
That comment is ripe with unintended satire. Using fear as a weapon has been the Republican modus operandi since the George W Bush presidency.
  • Global war on terrorism
  • Iraq WMDs
  • Obama is a Muslim who wasn't born in America
  • Unite the Right rally
  • "When Mexico sends its people, they're not sending their best. They're not sending you. They're not sending you. They're sending people that have lots of problems, and they're bringing those problems with us. They're bringing drugs. They're bringing crime. They're rapists. And some, I assume, are good people."
  • The election was rigged!
  • January 6th
 
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tigerGUY

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The Herman Cain award. Google it.

The Herman Cain award. Google it.
Kinda silly. I had obviously NOT heard of it. I loved Herman Cain. He'd have helped America. But he couldn't play with the big boys at the end due to his wife's wishes. Dirty politics weren't for Mrs. Cain. Then he dies because Covid overcame his immune system totally freaked by cancer. Damned if you do and damned if you don't.

Just to be clear, I totally believe everyone should be vaccinated. My wife and I were both negative on COVID-19 tests done Tuesday. So we've been vaccinated and then contracted COVID-19. What happens now? I'm told we can end up with Covid again. Does my wife's immune system fail next time? It's a damned never ending circle of BS.
 

Essolover4

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That comment is ripe with unintended satire. Using fear as a weapon has been the Republican modus operandi since the George W Bush presidency.
  • Global war on terrorism
  • Iraq WMDs
  • Obama is a Muslim who wasn't born in America
  • Unite the Right rally
  • "When Mexico sends its people, they're not sending their best. They're not sending you. They're not sending you. They're sending people that have lots of problems, and they're bringing those problems with us. They're bringing drugs. They're bringing crime. They're rapists. And some, I assume, are good people."
  • The election was rigged!
  • January 6th
Let’s suppose all of that is true . Two wrongs make a right?
 

TigerGrowls

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It’s disingenuous and belies a false and unearned sense of superiority and a certain level of stupidity. But, it wasn’t really the hospital. It was one doctor who sounded like she was probably a yuge **** anyways. Not really fair to paint an entire hospital or system negatively. My best friend and his wife are both doctors at that hospital.

And, I maintain my original point. If I go into the hospital with a compound fracture of the femur. When they move me out of the icu or wherever the hell I would be put originally, I’m still in the hospital for a broken femur.
What about that same broken femur patient being counted as a covid patient after testing positive but with no symptoms? That is absolutely what is happening in a lot of cases.
 

Willence

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This is one of the reasons why you should be careful about listening to the left. They're just so misinformed. Almost half of Democrats think if you get Covid you're going to end up in the hospital 50% of the time. Good gosh! And there are literally hundreds of polls where people on the left get things so far off base. One showed that a plurality of Democrats think 1,000-20,000 unarmed black men are killed by police each year when the actual number is less than 20. And we're the dumb ones who don't know science?

 
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DW4_2016

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Kinda silly. I had obviously NOT heard of it. I loved Herman Cain. He'd have helped America. But he couldn't play with the big boys at the end due to his wife's wishes. Dirty politics weren't for Mrs. Cain. Then he dies because Covid overcame his immune system totally freaked by cancer. Damned if you do and damned if you don't.

Just to be clear, I totally believe everyone should be vaccinated. My wife and I were both negative on COVID-19 tests done Tuesday. So we've been vaccinated and then contracted COVID-19. What happens now? I'm told we can end up with Covid again. Does my wife's immune system fail next time? It's a damned never ending circle of BS.
 

padtigers

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This is one of the reasons why you should be careful about listening to the left. They're just so misinformed. Almost half of Democrats think if you get Covid you're going to end up in the hospital 50% of the time. Good gosh! And there are literally hundreds of polls where people on the left get things so far off base. One showed that a plurality of Democrats think 1,000-20,000 unarmed black men are killed by police each year when the actual number is less than 20. And we're the dumb ones who don't know science?


Did you get the feeling that Bill was mostly directing his comments straight to Kimmel because of how Kimmel talks and the stances he takes?
 

Willence

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Did you get the feeling that Bill was mostly directing his comments straight to Kimmel because of how Kimmel talks and the stances he takes?

Perhaps but also he is the one person on the left who hasn't lost his damn mind. I am not a huge fan of his because we have many very significantly different positions but I do respect him and his views. He's got a lot to offer that I think has a place and can be important. Nevertheless, his citing of the poll numbers is what I was referring to and that wasn't a case of them just polling Kimmel over and over again. There's a lot of really ill-informed people on both sides. I find myself frequently embarrassed by some of the things that come from my side of the political sphere.
 
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