Meanwhile, in Oregon..

gmcgann

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So now cases are the key metric? Interesting. Seems like hospitalizations are the key metric right this minute and we know most of those are unvaccinated. I am shocked anyone on this board believes that you should test everyone regardless. That seems like the greatest overreach of all.
Exactly. They are just trying to avoid people ending up in hospitals which is exactly what the entire world should be focused on. If that happens it is just another thing you pick up and pass from here on out. Is it full proof? No.
 

tigerwoodnc

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Society should just wrap their minds around that this is coming for a broad range of activities.

Trying to not make it political- but Covid isn’t going away and lots of things are going to require vaccinations- travel, admission to schools or events, work places, etc etc. Just the facts of where we are headed…….

That’s right even though studies show the vaccines are less than 50% effective against the Delta and masks don’t work nearly as well as we have been led to believe. Oh well. Just do what they require or stay at home. Your choice.
 

Klempsun

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And you thought it took forever to get into the stadium in Charlotte. Can you imagine this? No thank you.
Off site or near stadium stations where you present papers or get tested. Then they give you a wristband. That’s how widespread did it in Asheville. A lot more people ..I know..but it was quick and easy
 

poates6

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Society should just wrap their minds around that this is coming for a broad range of activities.

Trying to not make it political- but Covid isn’t going away and lots of things are going to require vaccinations- travel, admission to schools or events, work places, etc etc. Just the facts of where we are headed…….
I’m sure that some will simply comply, but I will not be one. I can easily do without attending events.
Will you be getting your flu vaccine card too? This virus and the flu are the same, so when will you draw a line? The fact so many are willing to comply is sad.
 

poates6

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“Mandatory Vax to slow the spread”?

This stuff is like the last names on the Cleveland Browns’ QB Jersey:

“15 days to slow the spread”
“Hand washing, distancing to slow the spread”
“Limit gatherings to slow the spread”
“Masks to slow the spread”
“Lockdowns to slow the spread”
“Vax to slow the spread (no masks if vax)”
“Sorry Vax and masks to slow the spread”
“Vax might not slow the spread so masks”

“Mandatory Vax to slow the spread”
“Boosters to slow the spread”


This is awesome, I’d love to steal it!!!
 
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PawsFan

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So when SC, Alabama, Mississippi, etc do it, will you call it socialist?
When you cash your social security each month, do you call yourself a socialist?
Come on Tillman. You know those states will never do that.

SS is an entitlement that I paid into far more than I will get back. If you want to do away with SS, I'm all for it. Taking what I have put into social security over the years (not counting what my employers have put in) and instead have invested it in the S&P 500 mutual fund would be worth millions today. But hey, when I'm 65 I will get a whopping $3200 a month from Uncle Sam that they will tax.
 
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Society should just wrap their minds around that this is coming for a broad range of activities.

Trying to not make it political- but Covid isn’t going away and lots of things are going to require vaccinations- travel, admission to schools or events, work places, etc etc. Just the facts of where we are headed…….
Stop bringing your logic in here Tiger Tommy! We just want to be mad 😡

You are 100 percent right
 

metalman82

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So when SC, Alabama, Mississippi, etc do it, will you call it socialist?
When you cash your social security each month, do you call yourself a socialist?
When I cash my social security check it a check earned from paying into a system. If it was a welfare, food stamp, disability check then yes I would consider myself a socialist. Same with Government subsidized healthcare. But since I won’t be needing any of the socialists programs to live, just call me a providing American. Because my taxes are what is funding all of the socialists bullshyatt.
 

ForzaTigre

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Society should just wrap their minds around that this is coming for a broad range of activities.

Trying to not make it political- but Covid isn’t going away and lots of things are going to require vaccinations- travel, admission to schools or events, work places, etc etc. Just the facts of where we are headed…….

No doubt. Basically if you’re not vaccinated you probably won’t be able to fly, go to concerts, etc sooner than later.
 

kgwillison

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That's MY money.... and a damn poor return on it, as well.
But it is YOUR money paying for public schools, too, correct? And public hospitals? Roads? Bridges? Colleges? Do you have a choice in whether the government uses your money for the common good? Nope.

To argue that Social Security and Medicare aren’t socialist is laughable. Of course they are. And we are so hooked on them that seniors (and near seniors) will howl at the mere suggestion that benefits be reduced. And don’t dare suggest that conservative seniors don’t want their social security income.

Would you really want to live in a nation that didn’t redistribute wealth to some degree? Would you want to live in a city where people in poorer neighborhoods have dirt roads while yours are asphalt? Where they have septic tanks while you have sewers? Where they have no libraries because they don’t pay enough in property and income taxes to have one?
 

tigerworx

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But it is YOUR money paying for public schools, too, correct? And public hospitals? Roads? Bridges? Colleges? Do you have a choice in whether the government uses your money for the common good? Nope.

To argue that Social Security and Medicare aren’t socialist is laughable. Of course they are. And we are so hooked on them that seniors (and near seniors) will howl at the mere suggestion that benefits be reduced. And don’t dare suggest that conservative seniors don’t want their social security income.

Would you really want to live in a nation that didn’t redistribute wealth to some degree? Would you want to live in a city where people in poorer neighborhoods have dirt roads while yours are asphalt? Where they have septic tanks while you have sewers? Where they have no libraries because they don’t pay enough in property and income taxes to have one?
Don't know which island you are on or from. Maybe the Long one?

Regardless.

We have nothing to discuss.

Have a great day.
 
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DW4_2016

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Medicare and school , I am with you

SS is not the same thing. It is more in line with prepaying your taxes and then getting a refund on tax day.

Just because the govt takes your money and then gives it back later “when you need it”, it is not socialism. It is why the government can not spend that money. (I know they have spent it all, but there is a building in WV with all the IOUs)

Sure makes sense that the fund is running out then. You know, it being prepaid and all.
 

kgwillison

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Serious question, why stop there?

Doesn’t an Unvaxxed person make you feel unsafe if they’re out of their home in general? Why should they be allowed in the public square period?
Well a number of colleges are coming to the conclusion that they don’t want the unvaccinated around at all. UVA disenrolled a couple hundred kids who were set to attend classes due to their being unvaccinated. Quinnipiac University will give unvaccinated kids a couple of weeks to become vaccinated before cutting them off from the school’s wifi.
 

anon1753124268

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When I cash my social security check it a check earned from paying into a system. If it was a welfare, food stamp, disability check then yes I would consider myself a socialist. Same with Government subsidized healthcare. But since I won’t be needing any of the socialists programs to live, just call me a providing American. Because my taxes are what is funding all of the socialists bullshyatt.
Why is the social security program in trouble if the govt is just giving you back what you put in?
 
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ArmyTiger27

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Mmm all people should make us feel unsafe. Vaccinated people are having positive tests also. Just ask Barry Sanders. He just tested positive after vaccinating AND masking.
PEOPLE WAKE UP. Any and all people can test positive for COVID no matter vaccination status. This isn't statement meant pit vax vs. Unvax it's just a statement to speak the plain truth.
Not picking on you solely, but I’m beginning to think people aren’t educated or in denial.

The vaccine was never created to prevent folks from catching COVID-19. It fights the virus with established antibodies if you’re infected. Just like the influenza vaccine.

So it’s not surprising Mr Sanders caught the virus.

How’s this hard for folks to comprehend? Then using it as their argument why it doesn’t work. It’s baffling.

if you were being sarcastic and I missed it, my apologies.
 
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metalman82

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Why is the social security program in trouble if the govt is just giving you back what you put in?
Congress moved the funds allocated to and specifically dedicated for the Social Security Program from the original fund program into the general fund to offset the budget deficits that were accruing. At one time the fund was very solvent but because of our elected leaders the fund has been raided and is now very insolvent. It also hasn't helped that the death age of people has risen due to the increased effectiveness of our current medical fields. Also note that Social Security was meant as a retirement supplement and was not intended to provide full living support. Most people don't understand that aspect of the program and try to use it as a sole basis of income.
 

JAMCRACKER99

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Got about halfway through the first page and forgot what the topic was. I believe anything Covid related should just go to the round table. I'm tired of reading both sides of the issue from a bunch of people, many of whom don't know what the hell they are talking about.
 

Jwilliamsiii

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Hey, in honor of these Oregon geniuses cancelling any requirements of math, reading, and English to graduate high school, in order to promote racial equality, while actually showing their racist colors, I present to you.....
 

anon1753124268

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Not picking on you solely but I’m beginning to think people are not bright.

The vaccine was never created to prevent folks from catching COVID-19. It’s whole design is to fight the virus with established antibodies. Just like the flu vaccine.

So it’s not surprising Mr Sanders caught the virus.

How’s this hard for folks to comprehend? Then using it as their argument why folks shouldn’t take it?? It’s baffling.

if you were being sarcastic and I missed it, my apologies
That’s right even though studies show the vaccines are less than 50% effective against the Delta and masks don’t work nearly as well as we have been led to believe. Oh well. Just do what they require or stay at home. Your choice.
Moderna has dropped from 98%to 72%
Pfizer-95% to 55%
A good vaccine is anything above 40%.

Get vaccinated and quit being idiots.
 

pickenstiger

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Not picking on you solely, but I’m beginning to think people aren’t educated or in denial.

The vaccine was never created to prevent folks from catching COVID-19. It fights the virus with established antibodies if you’re infected. Just like the influenza vaccine.

So it’s not surprising Mr Sanders caught the virus.

How’s this hard for folks to comprehend? Then using it as their argument why it doesn’t work. It’s baffling.

if you were being sarcastic and I missed it, my apologies.
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No problem. I was stating fact like you. The vaccine doesn't mean you want get COVID. The virus is far smarter than a vaccine, still has the capability of entering cells and cause a person to be infected with COVID.
One of reasons you can still get infected despite having vaccine is your body has to have enough of an immune response to fight the virus to keep it from entering cells.
 
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anon1753124268

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Group A: “muh freeeeedum! Muh body my choice! It’s just like the flu!*severe symptoms and ER visit and possibly death

Group B: Please get vaccinated! * No symptoms or very mild symptoms. It’s just like the flu.
 

acwill07

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Serious question, why stop there?

Doesn’t an Unvaxxed person make you feel unsafe if they’re out of their home in general? Why should they be allowed in the public square period?

LOL stop being melodramatic…it’s not helping anybody. One scenario is rational whereas the one you propose is not. If you actually think we are headed towards unvaccinated people being locked up in their houses then your tin foil hat is getting in the way of you thinking rationally.
 
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acwill07

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i got mine already and am glad i did..i am currently positive and its just fatigue and the sniffles so far...i am overweight and middle aged so a candidate to not do well otherwise...thank you moderna

Kudos to you for getting the vaccine. Now you will skate through Covid with no issues. You’re gonna be fine!
 

acwill07

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Shouldn’t we care about serious cases only? If getting vaccinated and you still get it, but you only have cold symptoms, that’s a good thing. We want to reduce the number of serious illnesses, no? I’m confused by what the point of the argument is.
Inconsistent data is annoying, no doubt about it. But no one would give a **** about this if it wasn’t for hospitalizations/ deaths.

Of course that’s what we should be caring about. The anti vax people are insufferably ignorant.
 

Clemsonu0219

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LOL stop being melodramatic…it’s not helping anybody. One scenario is rational whereas the one you propose is not. If you actually think we are headed towards unvaccinated people being locked up in their houses then your tin foil hat is getting in the way of you thinking rationally.
I never said I think that, broseph. I said it’s where the logic train ends.
 

TigerGrowls

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Shouldn’t we care about serious cases only? If getting vaccinated and you still get it, but you only have cold symptoms, that’s a good thing. We want to reduce the number of serious illnesses, no? I’m confused by what the point of the argument is.
Inconsistent data is annoying, no doubt about it. But no one would give a **** about this if it wasn’t for hospitalizations/ deaths.
There would not be a big fuss if all the pressure and mandates were not present. This is a govt and media driven fiasco. I am still sitting in GA unvaccinated at 57 relying on my natural immunity and common sense to handle this glorified flu bug that still has a 99+ natural recovery rate.
 

TigerGrowls

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Not picking on you solely, but I’m beginning to think people aren’t educated or in denial.

The vaccine was never created to prevent folks from catching COVID-19. It fights the virus with established antibodies if you’re infected. Just like the influenza vaccine.

So it’s not surprising Mr Sanders caught the virus.

How’s this hard for folks to comprehend? Then using it as their argument why it doesn’t work. It’s baffling.

if you were being sarcastic and I missed it, my apologies.
That's just like the body naturally fights viruses and makes antibodies without any vaccine. There is a 99+ recovery rate unvaccinated, so why should anyone be pressured to get the vaccine?