*****Dabo, on team vaccinations

[Captainclemson]

Out of a 157,000,000 person sample, over 7 months, there are going to be a bunch of deaths

From car wrecks.... heart attacks... cancer.... etc - cant blame 'em on a vaccine

 

[harristeeter]

[insert very brief stance on a complicated topic, followed by an even shorter retort with an insulting description of the person who disagreed]. Lather. Rinse. Repeat.

Something, something, Name calling....something, something, more name calling...

I’m at the point now where I want everyone to get the shot just so this type of thread will stop. Then we can get back to all being on the same page, like our recruiting.....roster mgmt....5 heart players and my favorite: offensive play calling!

 

[Clemsonu0219]

I can understand to some extent also, and I’m not here to debate either. My hope is the that they have access to professional medical counsel.

Absolutely. Great point.

 

[Clemsonu0219]

Maybe low death rate but certainly high symptoms for a disease in young athletes even who are very robust. Might have ruined potential football careers of Justin Foster and Xavier Thomas certainly knocked them down for an entire year. Also saw in an interview a Clemson Olineman, Trent Howard I believe was hospitalized w covid. Not typical effects of a normal virus on young adults in the top 0.5% of fitness shape for the human race

That’s fair.

 

[24TIGER]

Maybe so but after watching Fauci throw out a first pitch, I just can’t take him seriously

***DISCLAIMER*** Not intended in any way, shape or form to be political. Just absolutely cracks me up (as a former baseball player). Peace and Clemson Tiger love to all. BillyD

 

[HarryHotTakes]

For all the sheeple that keep parroting crap information about people dying from the vaccine, that its not working, etc... please read this article. You are getting information from people that have no idea what they are even looking at.

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2021/04/pandemics-wrongest-man/618475/

calling people sheep and then posting an article from the atlantic >>>>>>

 

[Every name taken]

***DISCLAIMER*** Not intended in any way, shape or form to be political. Just absolutely cracks me up (as a former baseball player). Peace and Clemson Tiger love to all. BillyD

Reminds me of a story I have told here before. Jimmy Howard says that he caught the first pass of Lawson Holland's Clemson career, and Jimmy was in the forth row of the stadium.

 

[HarryHotTakes]

This is really strong. 96% of practicing doctors are fully vaccinated. Maybe those doctors are a better source than some dude on Twitter?

College Football players and some dude on twitter don’t deal with sick patients on a day to day basis

 

[dual_tiger]

It works. It prevents severe disease and death. Thats what vaccines do. Yes you can still catch it but it it will be much less severe.

Does it work as they originally said though? The original narrative was that it prevented it and mitigated the spread. Now it is to prevent severe illness. How do you mitigate the spread when fully vaccinated people are still getting it?

 

[Tiger Guru]

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Why would they put an experimental non approved vaccine in their young healthy bodies?

Because a doctor couldn't be wrong. They literally know everything medical. They're not following what their superiors tell them at all. They truly know get vaccinated is the best. Who doesn't trust their family doctor when it comes to vaccines?

 

[clemben_rivals]

The number of vaccine-related deaths has increased dramatically this year. According to the CDC's own data, in 2021, in the first 3 months, more than 1,750 vaccine deaths were registered on the VAERS website in the United States.
Last week, they reported 6,985 deaths, and this week this number has increased from 2,043 to 9,048.

Currently, there are 9125 deaths from vaccination in the United States as of 2021 (CDC data)

In addition, 1,505 deaths from COVID-19 were registered in the United States last week.

This means that there were more deaths from the Covid vaccine in the US last week than from Covid itself.

@WorldawakeningTrueNews. Here is some news that probably 99% of you are unaware of. I have not had the vaccine shot nor my wife and we do not intend to get it. When you do the research, we as the world are being told a lie about what the vaccine is doing to thousands upon thousands of people. This article that I have copied n pasted is from the CDC‘s own website that the news media will never tell you. If it means that Clemson loses every game this year, and I have been a tiger fan for over 60 years n gone to every playoff game for the last 5 years, I am willing for that to happen if it will save someone else’s life from taking the vaccine shot. We are about to experience an entire generation of not having children born from girls who are getting the shot. The government is even now pushing for children to age 5 to get the vaccine. Just this past month, a report came out that JetBlue airline lost five pilots who died mysteriously because they were forced to get the vaccine or else they would lose their job. I have been called many things including a conspiracy theorist, which is fine with me. Standing up for what I believe is true is my right as an American. I know many of you have had pressure put on you, as I have even from many of my church friends, to get the shot or lose your job. That is a decision that all of us will have to make sometime this year. Do not believe what the news media is telling you. It is all a lie and it will be coming out soon. Please do the research and follow the money. Fauci and Bill Gates are making millions upon millions of dollars off of this vaccine. Time will tell. Pray for me and my family as I will certainly do for you n your family.

This is one of the most uninformed posts I have read in a while and I read lots of TigerGrowls.

VAERS is a self reporting tool. Anyone can report to the website. It is not a reporting of ACTUAL deaths. Do you know how many VERIFIED vaccine deaths there have been? Three. Those are blood clot related and from the J&J vaccine. Lots of people claim to have died from the vaccine but then an autopsy report shows that it just isn't true. For example, in March there were a ton of news stories circulating about a women who died after just getting their 2nd dose. This was reported before the medical examiner's office had even concluded cause of death. Investigation done and oops--nothing to do with the vaccine. This happens with VAERS reports all the time.

There is no Jet Blue report. Why are you listening to STEW PETERS and Jane Ruby (who is not a medical doctor)?? This is debunked garbage. Nothing even remotely true other than conspiracy goobley gook.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/jetblue-pilots-die-covid/

Obituary records show cause of deaths to be cancer and UTV accident.

These same people believe vaccines make you--and I am not kidding--magnetize. Like Magneto or something. It would be hilarious if people like you weren't so incredibly gullible.

 

[bp1999]

My employer, a large bank, just made it mandatory for every employee and vendor to complete a survey for confirming if vaccinated or not. Stated you could choose the option "not to disclose," but that would be considered unvaccanated. Also, stated even if you have had COVID, you should still get vaccinated.

This so they can plan return the work place.

see you after Labor Day

 

[HarryHotTakes]

this thread is like WWE for 30-60 year old white guys with office jobs

 

[coldbud1994]

Does it work as they originally said though? The original narrative was that it prevented it and mitigated the spread. Now it is to prevent severe illness. How do you mitigate the spread when fully vaccinated people are still getting it?

They are getting it at a much lower rate overall and when they do get it the viral loads are very low and their ability to shed the virus and spread it is much lower than someone who has it and is not vaccinated

 

[harristeeter]

***DISCLAIMER*** Not intended in any way, shape or form to be political. Just absolutely cracks me up (as a former baseball player). Peace and Clemson Tiger love to all. BillyD

For some reason I'm hearing Bob Uecker's voice saying "just a bit outside!" and "I don't understand why they're not swinging at these pitches".

 

[Jam48Allay]

Actually the number of deaths at these kids age is close 2 zero for those who didn't have a serious underlying illness like leukemia...Its asinine that kids at these age group are being force fed these standards period..

 

[dual_tiger]

They are getting it at a much lower rate overall and when they do get it the viral loads are very low and their ability to shed the virus and spread it is much lower than someone who has it and is not vaccinated

So being vaccinated doesn’t prevent you from spreading it or catching it. So even if you are vaccinated there is a chance you can spread this thing and cause a mutation right?

 

[firegiver]

So being vaccinated doesn’t prevent you from spreading it or catching it. So even if you are vaccinated there is a chance you can spread this thing and cause a mutation right?

yes it does because it lessens the viral load... it literally helps to stop the spread because it hinders its reproduction in the vaccinated host.

 

[Spare Jock]

Gentlemen, please be civil. I'd like to leave this pushpin post up on this board, but please be civil here. And no politics please.

Thanks!

can you keep this as the official TI COVID thread and delete the rest from here on out?

 

[essoclemsontiger]

I have no problem with anyone who wishes to take the vaccination. I also have no problem with anyone who elects to not take it. In each instance it is their body and their right to protect it the best way they see fit.

I wish more people had this stance on many things in life, not just getting the vaccine.

 

[CUpewpewcachoo]

For all the sheeple that keep parroting crap information about people dying from the vaccine, that its not working, etc... please read this article. You are getting information from people that have no idea what they are even looking at.

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2021/04/pandemics-wrongest-man/618475/

Read an article from a self described "socially leftist" 35 yr old journalist whom has worked for the same liberal media organization for the last 9 years... Might want to find a more bipartisan source before you start calling folks sheeple as you yourself appear to need a shearing

 

[coldbud1994]

So being vaccinated doesn’t prevent you from spreading it or catching it. So even if you are vaccinated there is a chance you can spread this thing and cause a mutation right?

incredibly small chance but yes, a chance. Nothing in life is 100%.

I see where you are going...its the "so why even bother getting a vaccine that doesn't work hurr de durr" argument.

The Pfizer and Moderna vaccines significantly reduce the chance you get the virus, give you a 95% or higher chance of avoiding severe illness from the virus. It also vastly lowers the chance that you can spread it if you have a break through infection (which does happen). When you add these together, you can reduce the spread and severity of the disease and literally save lives.

The choice is yours. Please just make an effort to understand real information when you are making your choice. And speak to your primary care physician.

And for the record I am a conservative Republican

 

[dual_tiger]

yes it does because it lessens the viral load... it literally helps to stop the spread because it hinders its reproduction in the vaccinated host.

So are you saying it is impossible to spread the virus if you are vaccinated because if so then I misread your original post and I apologize. I read your post as it lessens the chances of spread not prevents it totally. If that is the case what does the data say? What percentage of people that are vaccinated are still able to spread it?

 

[coldbud1994]

Read an article from a self described "socially leftist" 35 yr old journalist whom has worked for the same liberal media organization for the last 9 years... Might want to find a more bipartisan source before you start calling folks sheeple as you yourself appear to need a shearing

The point here is that the writer actually went to experts for information and clarification. You know, scientists and experts in the field of medicine.

 

[firegiver]

So are you saying it is impossible to spread the virus if you are vaccinated because if so then I misread your original post and I apologize. I read your post as it lessens the chances of spread not prevents it totally. If that is the case what does the data say? What percentage of people that are vaccinated are still able to spread it?

Yes it lessens it obviously the overall 'effectiveness' measures this and thats the percent you see references to in articles that claim pfizer is 95% effective.
My coworker went on vacation with an infected person, because they stayed in a hotel together and were together for 8 days he caught covid even though he was vaccinated. Of course the other person was not vaccinated and they went on to infect around 20 other people. To my knowledge the coworker hasn't spread it, but its totally possible he could if he was breathing on someone for a week straight. This is all anecdotal but it illustrates that non vaccinated people with Covid are extremely contagious.

 

[Tigerbomb]

The number of vaccine-related deaths has increased dramatically this year. According to the CDC's own data, in 2021, in the first 3 months, more than 1,750 vaccine deaths were registered on the VAERS website in the United States.
Last week, they reported 6,985 deaths, and this week this number has increased from 2,043 to 9,048.

Currently, there are 9125 deaths from vaccination in the United States as of 2021 (CDC data)

In addition, 1,505 deaths from COVID-19 were registered in the United States last week.

This means that there were more deaths from the Covid vaccine in the US last week than from Covid itself.

@WorldawakeningTrueNews. Here is some news that probably 99% of you are unaware of. I have not had the vaccine shot nor my wife and we do not intend to get it. When you do the research, we as the world are being told a lie about what the vaccine is doing to thousands upon thousands of people. This article that I have copied n pasted is from the CDC‘s own website that the news media will never tell you. If it means that Clemson loses every game this year, and I have been a tiger fan for over 60 years n gone to every playoff game for the last 5 years, I am willing for that to happen if it will save someone else’s life from taking the vaccine shot. We are about to experience an entire generation of not having children born from girls who are getting the shot. The government is even now pushing for children to age 5 to get the vaccine. Just this past month, a report came out that JetBlue airline lost five pilots who died mysteriously because they were forced to get the vaccine or else they would lose their job. I have been called many things including a conspiracy theorist, which is fine with me. Standing up for what I believe is true is my right as an American. I know many of you have had pressure put on you, as I have even from many of my church friends, to get the shot or lose your job. That is a decision that all of us will have to make sometime this year. Do not believe what the news media is telling you. It is all a lie and it will be coming out soon. Please do the research and follow the money. Fauci and Bill Gates are making millions upon millions of dollars off of this vaccine. Time will tell. Pray for me and my family as I will certainly do for you n your family.

Now research Advil or Tylenol with the same zeal and passion and let me know the results.

I'll save you the trouble:

Advil:

100,000 ER visits
16,000+ deaths

 

[dual_tiger]

incredibly small chance but yes, a chance. Nothing in life is 100%.

I see where you are going...its the "so why even bother getting a vaccine that doesn't work hurr de durr" argument.

The Pfizer and Moderna vaccines significantly reduce the chance you get the virus, give you a 95% or higher chance of having severe illness from the virus. It also vastly lowers the chance that you can spread it if you have a break through infection (which does happen). When you add these together, you can reduce the spread and severity of the disease and literally save lives.

The choice is yours. Please just make an effort to understand real information when you are making your choice. And speak to your primary care physician.

And for the record I am a conservative Republican

I am asking for information and you didn’t provide it. You say it lessens the chance of spread when you are vaccinated but provided no data to back it up. Lessening could be at a magnitude of 1 out of a 100 or 95 out of 100. I have told all my at risk family members and friends to get the vaccine for the record. Also for the record I haven’t had the vaccine because for one I have had Covid and two am not at a high risk for death.

 

[dual_tiger]

Yes it lessens it obviously the overall 'effectiveness' measures this and thats the percent you see references to in articles that claim pfizer is 95% effective.
My coworker went on vacation with an infected person, because they stayed in a hotel together and were together for 8 days he caught covid even though he was vaccinated. Of course the other person was not vaccinated and they went on to infect around 20 other people. To my knowledge the coworker hasn't spread it, but its totally possible he could if he was breathing on someone for a week straight. This is all anecdotal but it illustrates that non vaccinated people with Covid are extremely contagious.

Now is that 95% number that it prevents you from getting severe illness and death or that it prevents you from contracting it at all?

 

[Solid Orange Blood]

This thread was a glorious **** show. Thanks to all involved.

 

[Esso Porch]

I know 4 doctors and non of them are putting that poison in there system.

I don’t care whether you get vaccinated or not. Those doctors told you they aren’t getting vaccinated so they didn’t have to listen to you ramble on about how it’s poison to their system and going to kill them

 

[poates6]

Very disappointed in Dabo for him pushing this on his players.
He knows better, he needs to do better.

 

[Spare Jock]

Very disappointed in Dabo for him pushing this on his players.
He knows better, he needs to do better.

now we are rolling!

 

[bwhwc]

This thread was a glorious **** show. Thanks to all involved.

Vaccine threads always are, I’m just glad we could get Dabo involved in one now.

 

[Da Swami]

Super duper hilarious thread

If common sense was common law 40% of folks that share their uneducated unthought out asinine opinion would be incarcerated or on death row.

 

[Shevlin77]

For not taking a non-FDA approved vaccine that no one knows the long term effects of?
I mean, to each his own but it should be a personal choice…

The only reason it’s not approved by the FDA is because they don’t know how long the vaccination will provide protection from the virus. It’s not because the FDA is scared of possible long-term side effects because history has proven with vaccines that no major side effects have been discovered after six weeks of taking said by vaccine. Ever.

We’re obviously well past that six week point.

All that said, to each their own and I respect peoples decisions. But I also think that governing bodies have the right to say if you’re not vaccinated and we don’t want you in this group etc.

 

[Oculus_Tiger]

Never had a flu shot and don’t plan on ever getting this vaccination. Because of this I’m an evil person that wants to kill humanity. Smh!!!!

 

[acwill07]

The number of vaccine-related deaths has increased dramatically this year. According to the CDC's own data, in 2021, in the first 3 months, more than 1,750 vaccine deaths were registered on the VAERS website in the United States.
Last week, they reported 6,985 deaths, and this week this number has increased from 2,043 to 9,048.

Currently, there are 9125 deaths from vaccination in the United States as of 2021 (CDC data)

In addition, 1,505 deaths from COVID-19 were registered in the United States last week.

This means that there were more deaths from the Covid vaccine in the US last week than from Covid itself.

@WorldawakeningTrueNews. Here is some news that probably 99% of you are unaware of. I have not had the vaccine shot nor my wife and we do not intend to get it. When you do the research, we as the world are being told a lie about what the vaccine is doing to thousands upon thousands of people. This article that I have copied n pasted is from the CDC‘s own website that the news media will never tell you. If it means that Clemson loses every game this year, and I have been a tiger fan for over 60 years n gone to every playoff game for the last 5 years, I am willing for that to happen if it will save someone else’s life from taking the vaccine shot. We are about to experience an entire generation of not having children born from girls who are getting the shot. The government is even now pushing for children to age 5 to get the vaccine. Just this past month, a report came out that JetBlue airline lost five pilots who died mysteriously because they were forced to get the vaccine or else they would lose their job. I have been called many things including a conspiracy theorist, which is fine with me. Standing up for what I believe is true is my right as an American. I know many of you have had pressure put on you, as I have even from many of my church friends, to get the shot or lose your job. That is a decision that all of us will have to make sometime this year. Do not believe what the news media is telling you. It is all a lie and it will be coming out soon. Please do the research and follow the money. Fauci and Bill Gates are making millions upon millions of dollars off of this vaccine. Time will tell. Pray for me and my family as I will certainly do for you n your family.

The fact that anyone could believe this drivel is hilarious/terrifying.

 

[acwill07]

It ain’t right now…& I know several people, a couple right now, that have been “vaccinated” & have gotten Covid anyway…there’s really no evidence the shot even works at this point….so basically, people are taking a shot that doesn’t really protect them from anything & may have long term effects but no one knows bc it was only developed in the last year…I’m good…

There’s no evidence the shot works at this point? Our country is doomed….

 

[DW4_2016]

It ain’t right now…& I know several people, a couple right now, that have been “vaccinated” & have gotten Covid anyway…there’s really no evidence the shot even works at this point….so basically, people are taking a shot that doesn’t really protect them from anything & may have long term effects but no one knows bc it was only developed in the last year…I’m good…

the story you paint. i am regretting getting it. dang


oh wait, none of what you posted is fact, except on facebook.

 

[DW4_2016]

“Pro choice pro choice!”

“You must get the vaccine!”

Pro Life

**** the vaccine

it's pretty easy to find hypocrisy when all the parties are so stupid