Covid vaccine tomorrow!!

[krfuquamd]

What if you’ve already had covid? take the vaccine too?

Yes you should still consider getting the vaccine even if you have had Covid. We don't know how long natural immunity lasts and it appears you can get reinfected so yes get the vaccine when its made available to you.

 

[TigerPrice03]

I think one school of thought is that if the majority of the "healthy" population that is working, traveling, going to school/college, socializing, not living in isolation gets the vaccine, then you will greatly reduce the spread to the more vulnerable population.

That kind of sounds like herd immunity which is what people with common sense were saying we should be doing all along...

 

[Coffee'sForClosers]

Just wanted to pass along that the Covid vaccine is making its way to us and I am scheduled to get my first of two shots tomorrow morning!! I'd encourage everyone to not only get the vaccine when it is made available to you but work within your social circles to get others to take this vaccine as well. Getting enough of the population vaccinated is the only way we stand to get this virus behind us. No different than getting the flu vaccine. Hopefully by mid 2021 this damn virus is in our rear view mirror. Regardless of your politics I think we can all agree the last 10 months have sucked!!

Glad to hear it's available. Keep us updated on your experience.

 

[MBRO]

I'll be getting the Pfizer vaccine. The Moderna vaccine will be coming out probably end of the week. I'll get a second shot 21 days after the first. Most of the research is showing that within a month of that second shot I'll be max protected but my body will start producing antibody immediately after the shot tomorrow.

I look forward to being able to visit my parents, both 81, without having to wear a mask or staying a safe distance from them for fear of giving them a virus I may have picked up at the hospital and had no idea I had at the time.

My MIL (sweet lady) is in assisted living w/ early onset dementia. Very tough last six months for her, with limited or no visitation, but she has been handling it as well as she can. I've been dropping off donuts and flowers on a regular basis, but nothing can replace physical interaction.

Looking forward to being able to hug her again and bring the grands for visits.

 

[jimbob1019]

Got a feeling a lot of people will be entitled to compensation in the next 5-10 years...

 

[PawsFan]

Being vaccinated doesn't necessarily mean you can't be a carrier. They have very little risk of having a negative outcome (or any outcome at all). The CDC isn't going to bump them up. They will be "gen pop" like the rest of us.

If you can't get the disease, you can't be a carrier. You have the antibodies.

 

[acwill07]

I’m 36 so I’m sure re I won’t be offered the vaccine for a while, but I’ll definitely get it as soon as I’m offered it. I can’t possibly fathom why anyone wouldn’t get it.

 

[metiger01]

Just wanted to pass along that the Covid vaccine is making its way to us and I am scheduled to get my first of two shots tomorrow morning!! I'd encourage everyone to not only get the vaccine when it is made available to you but work within your social circles to get others to take this vaccine as well. Getting enough of the population vaccinated is the only way we stand to get this virus behind us. No different than getting the flu vaccine. Hopefully by mid 2021 this damn virus is in our rear view mirror. Regardless of your politics I think we can all agree the last 10 months have sucked!!

Hope you don’t turn into a vegetable OP

 

[PAWrocka]

Cut and paste from CDC. Covid is clearly an age dependent killer. The 85+ group are the smallest age group yet have the highest deaths. That trend continues downward as age decreases. Huge drop offs for each age bracket especially if you do a ratio of the population. What this chart does not tell you is number of pre-existing conditions that also attributed to the deaths.

Sex	Age group	All Deaths involving COVID-19 (U07.1)1	Deaths from All Causes	Deaths involving Pneumonia, with or without COVID-19, excluding Influenza deaths (J12.0–J18.9)2	Deaths involving COVID-19 and Pneumonia, excluding Influenza (U07.1 and J12.0–J18.9)2	All Deaths involving Influenza, with or without COVID-19 or Pneumonia (J09–J11)3	Deaths involving Pneumonia, Influenza, or COVID-19 (U07.1 or J09–J18.9)4	Population5
Total
	All ages	261,530	2,703,232	257,672	119,560	6,868	405,464	328,239,523
	Under 1 year	29	15,187	146	4	15	186	3,783,052
	1–4 years	17	2,823	92	2	42	149	15,793,631
	5–14 years	46	4,540	124	7	53	216	40,994,163
	15–24 years	449	29,167	587	157	55	930	42,687,510
	25–34 years	1,909	59,676	2,104	851	154	3,301	45,940,321
	35–44 years	4,917	84,397	4,724	2,186	251	7,676	41,659,144
	45–54 years	13,080	153,621	12,386	6,205	593	19,745	40,874,902
	55–64 years	31,973	352,562	33,412	15,894	1,267	50,533	42,448,537
	65–74 years	55,985	536,982	57,773	27,799	1,497	87,200	31,483,433
	75–84 years	70,815	654,482	71,272	33,560	1,520	109,827	15,969,872
	85 years and over	82,310	809,795	75,052	32,895	1,421	125,701	6,604,958

This is some good info and interesting ....

Non-Covid related, but ....whew .... total population really takes a dive in that 75-84 bracket. Im guessing that coincides with the avg American life expectancy (lazy ... havent looked it up)


As far as the vaccine goes, when its available for my age group, I'll get it. I dont expect that till at least summer 2021. I have zero concerns about this vaccine that was specifically created for this specific virus with its unique genetic make up. If a individual justifies their decision NOT to get the vaccine by using the Flu effectiveness rate, just walk away from that person ...

 

[PAWrocka]

I’m 36 so I’m sure re I won’t be offered the vaccine for a while, but I’ll definitely get it as soon as I’m offered it. I can’t possibly fathom why anyone wouldn’t get it.

because there are people out there who honestly believe demons will pour out of your nose and your soul will belong to Satan if you take the vaccine.

 

[MKOTiger]

We’re going to give everyone in our office who gets the vaccine a $100 Walmart gift card. We don’t think we’ll have any problems with our employees taking the vaccine.

 

[CUFam98]

If you can't get the disease, you can't be a carrier. You have the antibodies.

The antibodies protect you. You can still have a small viral load that has the potential to be transmitted prior to your own body fighting it off. The research isn't complete on it yet to know the exact time and amounts. Thats why they are still recommending that folks that have had COVID and recovered still be vaccinated.

 

[CUFam98]

because there are people out there who honestly believe demons will pour out of your nose and your soul will belong to Satan if you take the vaccine.

My wife says that about me during football games, so I guess I don't have a reason not to get the shots.

 

[76observer]

I'll be getting the Pfizer vaccine. The Moderna vaccine will be coming out probably end of the week. I'll get a second shot 21 days after the first. Most of the research is showing that within a month of that second shot I'll be max protected but my body will start producing antibody immediately after the shot tomorrow.

I look forward to being able to visit my parents, both 81, without having to wear a mask or staying a safe distance from them for fear of giving them a virus I may have picked up at the hospital and had no idea I had at the time.

Until they are also vaccinated, likely need to continue to wear a mask when visiting elderly parents - at least until they are able to tell whether the vaccine prevents both disease AND infection or only just disease. Not yet sure if vaccine will prevent you being asymptotic while infected and shedding. Hope prevention of infection is documented soon.

 

[MBRO]

Until they are also vaccinated, likely need to continue to wear a mask when visiting elderly parents - at least until they are able to tell whether the vaccine prevents both disease AND infection or only just disease. Not yet sure if vaccine will prevent you being asymptotic while infected and shedding. Hope prevention of infection is documented soon.

 

[CUFam98]

I had a buddy that did the vaccine trials. He said the first shot was not so bad just like the flu shot. He said the 2nd shot was the same as the first but wow did he every get sick for about 24 hours...

He said he would do it again but he honestly admitted that the booster made him feel worse than he ever has for about 24 hours. He is hoping that is just the effects on him and not everyone else. He wanted to go to the emergency room in the middle of the night but he didn't have the energy to wake his wife.

Edit: He did the Moderna trial.

If folks have reported a reaction, its typically with the second. Sometimes I wonder if that is done on purpose. If the first really sucked, then people might not be willing to get the 2nd.

Kinda like how God gives you the easy birth and easy baby first. If the crappy pregnancy and demon child came first, you wouldn't have 2 kids.

 

[76observer]

The antibodies protect you. You can still have a small viral load that has the potential to be transmitted prior to your own body fighting it off. The research isn't complete on it yet to know the exact time and amounts. Thats why they are still recommending that folks that have had COVID and recovered still be vaccinated.

Correct but previously infected individuals will be after all not previously infected people in priority - so end of the line or when all general public, not to be done during early phases as I understand it.

 

[Jam48Allay]

Naw, check with me bout winter of 2023 I may but I ain't jumping on this first thing..If you have serious underlying conditions or elderly I get it but a normal healthy person? Nah

 

[76observer]

Encouraging certainly - but 63% reduction in infection is all the are showing now (good it shows after one shot though). Hopefully further data will show that number higher - definitely good news but not enough for vaccinated folks to not wear a mask in the short term however.

 

[CUFam98]

Correct but previously infected individuals will be after all not previously infected people in priority - so end of the line or when all general public, not to be done during early phases as I understand it.

The plans I've seen don't make mention of previous recovery. If you are a Phase 1, you get vaccinated with the Phase 1 regardless of whether you've had it or not.

It would make sense that they would take it into account make them last, but I haven't seen that actually implemented.

 

[PAWrocka]

If folks have reported a reaction, its typically with the second. Sometimes I wonder if that is done on purpose. If the first really sucked, then people might not be willing to get the 2nd.

Kinda like how God gives you the easy birth and easy baby first. If the crappy pregnancy and demon child came first, you wouldn't have 2 kids.

 

[athigpe]

Not idiotic. The most social people getting it first seems to stop the problem before it starts. They are apparently behind healthcare/frontline workers and the elderly but ahead of everyone else.

But can’t you still carry it, even if vaccinated? Seems this could have the reverse effect of now younger people feeling truly bullet-proof and being even more irresponsible because they think the vaccine is a silver bullet.

 

[tigerragman]

Just wanted to pass along that the Covid vaccine is making its way to us and I am scheduled to get my first of two shots tomorrow morning!! I'd encourage everyone to not only get the vaccine when it is made available to you but work within your social circles to get others to take this vaccine as well. Getting enough of the population vaccinated is the only way we stand to get this virus behind us. No different than getting the flu vaccine. Hopefully by mid 2021 this damn virus is in our rear view mirror. Regardless of your politics I think we can all agree the last 10 months have sucked!!

Are you like 95 years old krfuquamd? Congrats brother!!

 

[AtomicTiger]

Imma pass, brah.....

 

[cemtiger]

Hopefully this doesn't turn into a political thread that gets moved.

How did you get scheduled? Work for a hospital? I'm wondering how the common folk that don't work in a hospital, don't live in a nursing home, and aren't the initial priority go about getting in line to be notified when they can get shot?

How long have you been a member? Every thread turns political here.

 

[gcsoccer16]

OP let us know how things go first then get back to us in a few weeks after you've taken the shots

 

[gcsoccer16]

I’m 36 so I’m sure re I won’t be offered the vaccine for a while, but I’ll definitely get it as soon as I’m offered it. I can’t possibly fathom why anyone wouldn’t get it.

You really cant fathom why people wouldn't get the fast track vaccine with less than 5 months of human data? I'm not saying it won't be safe but surely you can fathom why people would be hesitant and see how others do after taking the shots.

 

[lljackson6]

Are you like 95 years old krfuquamd? Congrats brother!!

Read his/her username. MD is at the end, so pretty sure he/she is a doctor.

 

[Suttonkb]

Vaccine for 99.7% survival rate.. pass.

 

[acwill07]

You really cant fathom why people wouldn't get the fast track vaccine with less than 5 months of human data? I'm not saying it won't be safe but surely you can fathom why people would be hesitant and see how others do after taking the shots.

Eh, not really. The scientific community has become pretty good at creating vaccines.

 

[MBRO]

Vaccine for 99.7% survival rate.. pass.

I've seen this a lot and I don't get this reasoning.

The survival rate for the seasonal flu is even higher, but people get a shot because they don't want to get the flu (not neccesarily because they don't want to die).

I'm not particularly worried about getting covid and dying, but I also have no desire to get it and be sick for 2 weeks.

 

[Toasted712]

But can’t you still carry it, even if vaccinated? Seems this could have the reverse effect of now younger people feeling truly bullet-proof and being even more irresponsible because they think the vaccine is a silver bullet.

I honestly don't know. If you're right, then yes.

 

[gcsoccer16]

Eh, not really. The scientific community has become pretty good at creating vaccines.

Yeah that's true but this one and the timeline are very different. I think it's reasonable for people to wait and see how their peers do after the shots before deciding

 

[PAWrocka]

Vaccine for 99.7% survival rate.. pass.

I've seen this a lot and I don't get this reasoning.

The survival rate for the seasonal flu is even higher, but people get a shot because they don't want to get the flu (not neccesarily because they don't want to die).

I'm not particularly worried about getting covid and dying, but I also have no desire to get it and be sick for 2 weeks.

exactly, @MBRO

It really seems like COVID19 is a "death knell". If you contract COVID19 and your healthy, youre most likely to be fine BUT if you have a pre-existing condition (and those conditions arent just limited to diabetes, cancer, obesity .... but could also include common aliments like the flu or just the common cold) you could possibly have more serious complications.

Soooooo ya ... you could contract the flu and normally you'd be fine. Off your feet for a couple of days have some chicken noodle soup and youre back to normal, but if catch CV19 as well.... thats the cocktail that could turn you into a statistic.

 

[athigpe]

Eh, not really. The scientific community has become pretty good at creating vaccines.

That or they haven’t seen I Am Legend recently

 

[adgjunior]

I've seen this a lot and I don't get this reasoning.

The survival rate for the seasonal flu is even higher, but people get a shot because they don't want to get the flu (not neccesarily because they don't want to die).

I'm not particularly worried about getting covid and dying, but I also have no desire to get it and be sick for 2 weeks.

Exactly.

Anyone quoting the death rate is just trying to be political. We should all thank God for a lower death rate - that is the best news of 2020 based on early estimates. However, many people with COVID have been extremely sick for days or weeks, while others have lost the sense of taste or smell and have yet to see them return. I'm not interested in either option.

I've noticed that most that will not take the vaccine because "I don't know its long-term effects" had no problem getting COVID even though we don't know its long-term effects. Also, they were the ones screaming "Herd Immunity" last summer, but now aren't willing to contribute to true Herd Immunity, which was never achievable without medication.

 

[TigerDO]

I'm getting mine Friday. Not worried about it. This mRNA technology is actually over 10 years old. I dont feel there is too much to be concerned about. I think it certainly would help things return to normal much more quickly if a high percentage of people will get it.

 

[jasper7765]

Just wanted to pass along that the Covid vaccine is making its way to us and I am scheduled to get my first of two shots tomorrow morning!! I'd encourage everyone to not only get the vaccine when it is made available to you but work within your social circles to get others to take this vaccine as well. Getting enough of the population vaccinated is the only way we stand to get this virus behind us. No different than getting the flu vaccine. Hopefully by mid 2021 this damn virus is in our rear view mirror. Regardless of your politics I think we can all agree the last 10 months have sucked!!

Why would I get the vaccine. I had Covid so I am immune.

 

[blizzard]

Cut and paste from CDC. Covid is clearly an age dependent killer. The 85+ group are the smallest age group yet have the highest deaths. That trend continues downward as age decreases. Huge drop offs for each age bracket especially if you do a ratio of the population. What this chart does not tell you is number of pre-existing conditions that also attributed to the deaths.

Sex	Age group	All Deaths involving COVID-19 (U07.1)1	Deaths from All Causes	Deaths involving Pneumonia, with or without COVID-19, excluding Influenza deaths (J12.0–J18.9)2	Deaths involving COVID-19 and Pneumonia, excluding Influenza (U07.1 and J12.0–J18.9)2	All Deaths involving Influenza, with or without COVID-19 or Pneumonia (J09–J11)3	Deaths involving Pneumonia, Influenza, or COVID-19 (U07.1 or J09–J18.9)4	Population5
Total
	All ages	261,530	2,703,232	257,672	119,560	6,868	405,464	328,239,523
	Under 1 year	29	15,187	146	4	15	186	3,783,052
	1–4 years	17	2,823	92	2	42	149	15,793,631
	5–14 years	46	4,540	124	7	53	216	40,994,163
	15–24 years	449	29,167	587	157	55	930	42,687,510
	25–34 years	1,909	59,676	2,104	851	154	3,301	45,940,321
	35–44 years	4,917	84,397	4,724	2,186	251	7,676	41,659,144
	45–54 years	13,080	153,621	12,386	6,205	593	19,745	40,874,902
	55–64 years	31,973	352,562	33,412	15,894	1,267	50,533	42,448,537
	65–74 years	55,985	536,982	57,773	27,799	1,497	87,200	31,483,433
	75–84 years	70,815	654,482	71,272	33,560	1,520	109,827	15,969,872
	85 years and over	82,310	809,795	75,052	32,895	1,421	125,701	6,604,958

I wonder how many more deaths this year than years past.

 

[yaz76]

Got a feeling a lot of people will be entitled to compensation in the next 5-10 years...

And you base this on?