ISIS Leader captured?
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I think the point you're missing is only until the last couple days of office, did Obama really seem to do much to thwart the spread of the JV team. It's a shame we didn't have more bombings with the B2 and B52 bombers until his last 2 days in office.
Meanwhile, POTUS DJT and MadDog Mattis are wrecking **** on day 1.
Ya know..... I'm starting to have something against you personally. This is about the 5th post of mine you have quoted in the last few days. I'm giving our new Commander in Chief credit for making a move and ordering it while that other guy sat on his *** for years letting ISIS behead, murder, and destroy and did nothing about it!
Until last week, ISIS could gather around the dinner table at night with no worry of repercussions. Well no longer, snowflake. I salute all the men and women of our armed forces who put their lives in danger everyday so the rest of us can argue on a message board. I've had enough of you. Eff off.
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1. Let me preface by saying I agree with you...it's silly and hypocritical to praise Trump for everything good while blaming Obama for everything bad (or giving other people credit for the few good things Obama did accomplish).
2. That said, Obama brought a lot of this on himself. Ole boy was notorious for going above and beyond to take credit when he perceived something to be good, while blaming others (typically Republicans) when things were perceived as unfavorable.
Check out this quick video for a perfect example..
russian and us air forces are now working together in unison to destroy isis.
What you need to understand are the differences that will be obvious to those of us on the inside:
--yes, Obama has killed a lot of terrorist, but that's because there are a ton of them out there. We could have killed so many more, but ROEs and approval process has cost us opportunities to kill so many more. Every single air strike and ground force action has gone all the way to Obama for approval. Sometimes this has taken up to a week, costing us opportunities, to include Hostage Rescues where they were barely missed because he took his time giving his authorization. It will not be this way with Trump. Generals and the SECDEF will have the authority to make these decisions and then brief POTUS. This is going to lead to many more terrorist dead, and recruiting for them is going to dip drastically due to the cuffs being off. Obama has not been a complete failure I killing terrorist so that's not what I am saying, but his strict ROEs and narcissistic tendencies about needing to make every final decision has made it a lot harder than it should have been. Not anymore, and the SPECOPs community has already noticed, so standby, because good news about dead terrorist is going to be steady.
ISIS has lost 27% of its territory in Syria -- and 61% in Iraq -- from its peak, under President Obama.
Never voted for the man, and agree 100% he got off to a slow start and let Isis get too much of a foothold, but the american military has been devestating isis for the past two years. trump is inheriting a war that is almost over. (against ISIS specificially, war on terror will be a long fight, and i'm positive he will make positive steps in it)
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I truly hope you're right. However, the cynic in me says it's gonna be hard to end the war, considering Obama kept releasing Guantanamo prisoners, just so he could try to keep a campaign promise.
Please post more often Frog. I always enjoy reading your posts and thank you for your service.
This was on Obama's watch.
http://nationalinterest.org/blog/th...ants-battle-americas-b-2-stealth-bomber-19151
Next to last day in office and he finally grows a pair...pathetic
unfortunately for us, after following foreign policy for the last 20 years, our government lies more than any other country. the last 2 administrations have been really horrible about honesty.
trump has yet to purge the state and defense depts of the politically motivated players.
i trust jewish and russian intelligence service moreso than ours.
guys in the fbi and cia, along with the military have been outraged and frustrated with the men who have been appointed in leadership positions.
look no further than the 2 guys who have been in the headlines over the past year- john brennan and james comey.
heck look at the state dept back when hillary was in charge.
there is a reason the russians wanted to screw hillary, and it had nothing to do with trump.
nor did it have anything to do with her screwing bernie.
the purge has started and the swamp is being drained.
I hope you are right. I hope Trump can help the military kill many terrorists in his 4 years in office. But I stand by my point that crediting him with injuring this specific terrorist is not correct. I will credit the military and intelligence operatives who planned and executed this strike probably long before Trump's inauguration day. If the Trump lovers want to give all credit to his highness the gold plated one, that is their choice.
I'm not saying that Trump deserves credit for it, I'm saying that we have given up opportunities to kill many high level terrorist because it either took too long to get authorization from Obama himself, or that Obama wasn't comfortable with the collateral damage. This is fact. I will use Anwar al-Alaki as an example. He was careless, and probably could've been killed over 50 times before he finally was, except he wasn't for the reasons cited above. Another fact, I know of two hostage rescues that were barely missed because Obama took too long to approve them, one of which he was playing golf with Steph Curry and Alonzo Mourning all day. That one was missed by hours. The sheer fact that authorities will be delegated to the Generals and SECDEF alone will make us more successful, even if Trump doesn't change a single other thing.
Well stated. I take it your handle indicates your proffesion or did at one time. I didn't experience the huge ROE shift under the Obama administration so I can't speak on that. But, during the initial invasion I think all combat mos benefited from Gen. Mattis aggressiveness while racing to Baghdad
Who gives a ****...
Obama can have the credit but these isis dirt bags are going down...
If true about the hostages, it just proves Obama is a first class POS!
Honestly that's a terrible way to be commander and chief. You have to deligate and trust in order to lead effectively. If the whole approve every o.o is true and not hyperbole then we will be more effective militarily.
My question is: What do you think about trump saying we need to get the oil from Iraq? Is he just joking? Smoke screening? Setting up negotiations? Or trying to really invade again?
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Sounds like intentional foot dragging to me. Obama should not get credit for jack **** because of that. Obama stood in the way of the process. Trump is making the process work!
That's easy to say in a black and white world. The world isn't really that way though. I'd agree though that if Obama was too much involved it could have cost lives. However, if Trump isn't involved at all it could cost lives as well. I hope the best for him and our military.