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appalachiatiger

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Oh ok. Look up his offer to Kasich in May.

you are the one to throw the lie out there and i called you out.

he was exploring kasich as a potential vp candidate.

i love kasich, he was the budget chair that worked with the clinton white house to balance the federal budget for 2 maybe 3 years before bush destroyed that plan and put us on pur current path. obama has done nothing to change that.

trump wants a vice president that can serve 2 functions.

1- be the leader of the senate. have a great working knowledge of that cesspool of self absorbed pocket filling numbskulls firm both parties from both houses. kasich was by far the best choice out there to deal the houses due to his actual experience of being successful working with both parties.

kasich declined unfortunately. pence is a good choice, but he does not have kasich's experience of RESULTS that the donald is looking for.
 

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I think you just answered hospick's question affirmatively.

See, good debate doesn't include name calling, particularly immature words like "libtard." You sound like a child on a playground insulting a classmate.

If you have a difference of opinion, take the effort to explain your views and let that be your argument.

If it were another candidate other than Donald Trump, I don't think anyone on this board would be so enamored.

He implies he wants a police state (how we he make the streets safe on Jan. 20 2017 otherwise?)

He doesn't want to follow through on our treaties.

He wants to spend money on infrastructure without the means to pay for it.

He doesn't want to deal with the entitlement problem.

He says we need to attack ISIS but refuses to say we need more troops on the ground.

He said he wanted to put women who have abortions in jail. Until he didn't say that.

Somehow just because he is Donald J Trump people are willing to overlook his fabrications and his inconsistencies.

Well I can't do that. Not only will Trump lose his race but he will likely cause the Senate to tilt to the Democrats. Maybe then the Republicans can be reborn to be a fiscally conservative, socially moderate party that can appeal to people of all races, education levels and income groups. But until it does, I won't be voting with them.

And for those who question my Republican credentials, my first campaign work was in high school for Richard Nixon and throughout my years since, I've been solid in the GOP camp until the party moved radically away from me.
The GOP has moved RADICALLY away from you and you feel your solution is to jump on board with Hillary? Oh, ok. Gotcha. You are going to support Hillary with her agenda on a liberal Supreme Court and gun control.If she is elected, God help us all....
 

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you are the one to throw the lie out there and i called you out.

he was exploring kasich as a potential vp candidate.

i love kasich, he was the budget chair that worked with the clinton white house to balance the federal budget for 2 maybe 3 years before bush destroyed that plan and put us on pur current path. obama has done nothing to change that.

trump wants a vice president that can serve 2 functions.

1- be the leader of the senate. have a great working knowledge of that cesspool of self absorbed pocket filling numbskulls firm both parties from both houses. kasich was by far the best choice out there to deal the houses due to his actual experience of being successful working with both parties.

kasich declined unfortunately. pence is a good choice, but he does not have kasich's experience of RESULTS that the donald is looking for.
I am not lying. Stop watching Faux News, take off your tin foil hat, and open your eyes. As ai said, look up what Trump offered Kasich. Beyond just the VP. See how he sweetened the deal.
 
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Does anyone ITT still support the blocking of Merrick Garland to Supreme Court with the rationale that the position should be left up to the next president to fill?

I believe Garland has now had the longest wait in history for a Senate hearing by a Supreme Court nominee.
 

amynhop

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I am not lying. Stop watching Faux News, take off your tin foil hat, and open your eyes. As ai said, look up what Trump offered Kasich. Beyond just the VP. See how he sweetened the deal.
Trump denies he ever offered Kasich the VP. What credible source do you have that supports a verbal offer was ever made? I'll stick with FOX for my news as opposed to some blog from a basement or National Enquirer.
 

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I think you just answered hospick's question affirmatively.

See, good debate doesn't include name calling, particularly immature words like "libtard." You sound like a child on a playground insulting a classmate.

If you have a difference of opinion, take the effort to explain your views and let that be your argument.

If it were another candidate other than Donald Trump, I don't think anyone on this board would be so enamored.

He implies he wants a police state (how we he make the streets safe on Jan. 20 2017 otherwise?)

He doesn't want to follow through on our treaties.

He wants to spend money on infrastructure without the means to pay for it.

He doesn't want to deal with the entitlement problem.

He says we need to attack ISIS but refuses to say we need more troops on the ground.

He said he wanted to put women who have abortions in jail. Until he didn't say that.

Somehow just because he is Donald J Trump people are willing to overlook his fabrications and his inconsistencies.

Well I can't do that. Not only will Trump lose his race but he will likely cause the Senate to tilt to the Democrats. Maybe then the Republicans can be reborn to be a fiscally conservative, socially moderate party that can appeal to people of all races, education levels and income groups. But until it does, I won't be voting with them.

And for those who question my Republican credentials, my first campaign work was in high school for Richard Nixon and throughout my years since, I've been solid in the GOP camp until the party moved radically away from me.

Call me what you will, but I'm tired of watching this country become Socialized. It started in earnest with Clinton. GW Bush continued the crap. The past 7 1/2 years has only super charged the process. If Hillary gets elected this country is lost. I'm not so sure it isn't already lost.

The GOP is all talk and no act. They're as big a group of liars as the Libs. Trump sure as hell isn't my choice, but the alternative will put the final nail in this country's coffin. People in this country gave Mr. Obama a chance and cannot see the damage done apparently. I'll give Trump his chance...if we're lucky. My opinion. We need someone to think out of the box.

The GOP has died. It won't come back...ever. Too much Liberal education over the past 40 years and we allowed it to happen. Younger people don't know the truth. I'm sick and damned tired of Socialism being pushed down my throat. We the People are tired of it. Trump is nothing less than civil unrest.

People want to criticize Trump and my bet is they haven't bothered to research what his plans are. And Foreign Policy? Our Foreign Policy has been abysmal and dangerous. I'll go so far as saying it was treasonous with the Iran deal. $150B to a country intent on the destruction of the US. The deals made have been hidden in the dark and the media won't shine a light on them.

So go ahead and chastise me for my opinions and standing up for what I believe in. I couldn't care less. At least we both have an obvious love for America. Have a great day.
 

appalachiatiger

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I am not lying. Stop watching Faux News, take off your tin foil hat, and open your eyes. As ai said, look up what Trump offered Kasich. Beyond just the VP. See how he sweetened the deal.

you are the one making this up.

you look it up and post it.

not my job to fact check you. i know you pulled that from a 2nd hand source.

and hell no i dont watch fox new, or cnn, or msnbc,or any mainstream media.

i learned long ago, most of them are lying

and with technology we have today, its hard to hide he lying now.

and many media members are just plain ignorant and dumb.
 

appalachiatiger

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Trump denies he ever offered Kasich the VP. What credible source do you have that supports a verbal offer was ever made? I'll stick with FOX for my news as opposed to some blog from a basement or National Enquirer.

he did not personally offer kasich the position.

his son met with kasich to "feel him out" of his interest.

the vp is the leader of legislative agenda for the white house as he/she directly deals with those numbnuts on capital hill.

obviously, people jump on words out of context wthout understanding the actual process of what it means.
 

appalachiatiger

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Call me what you will, but I'm tired of watching this country become Socialized. It started in earnest with Clinton. GW Bush continued the crap. The past 7 1/2 years has only super charged the process. If Hillary gets elected this country is lost. I'm not so sure it isn't already lost.

The GOP is all talk and no act. They're as big a group of liars as the Libs. Trump sure as hell isn't my choice, but the alternative will put the final nail in this country's coffin. People in this country gave Mr. Obama a chance and cannot see the damage done apparently. I'll give Trump his chance...if we're lucky. My opinion. We need someone to think out of the box.

The GOP has died. It won't come back...ever. Too much Liberal education over the past 40 years and we allowed it to happen. Younger people don't know the truth. I'm sick and damned tired of Socialism being pushed down my throat. We the People are tired of it. Trump is nothing less than civil unrest.

People want to criticize Trump and my bet is they haven't bothered to research what his plans are. And Foreign Policy? Our Foreign Policy has been abysmal and dangerous. I'll go so far as saying it was treasonous with the Iran deal. $150B to a country intent on the destruction of the US. The deals made have been hidden in the dark and the media won't shine a light on them.

So go ahead and chastise me for my opinions and standing up for what I believe in. I couldn't care less. At least we both have an obvious love for America. Have a great day.


man i so agree with you about our education system. way too many liberals teaching our children.

these liberals have huge hearts and are great people. but letting them and their view of the world and how things "should operate" outside the human condition is just plain ignorant.

they are so dreamy in fields of flowers that they actual believe a tigers and gazelles could live side by side in a cage in peace.

just plain ignorant human beings. but they are loving humans, and many would run if we ever had to fight.

but thats just the mantra of being a liberal
 

nextoffensivecoord

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you are the one making this up.

you look it up and post it.

not my job to fact check you. i know you pulled that from a 2nd hand source.

and hell no i dont watch fox new, or cnn, or msnbc,or any mainstream media.

i learned long ago, most of them are lying

and with technology we have today, its hard to hide he lying now.

and many media members are just plain ignorant and dumb.
Since you are not familiar with Google, here you go. The New York Times is about as reputable as you can get, but I am guessing you will disagree.

"But according to the Kasich adviser (who spoke only under the condition that he not be named), Donald Jr. wanted to make him an offer nonetheless: Did he have any interest in being the most powerful vice president in history?

When Kasich’s adviser asked how this would be the case, Donald Jr. explained that his father’s vice president would be in charge of domestic and foreign policy.

Then what, the adviser asked, would Trump be in charge of?

“Making America great again” was the casual reply."

Here is the link to the whole article:

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/07/20/magazine/how-donald-trump-picked-his-running-mate.html
 

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Since you are not familiar with Google, here you go. The New York Times is about as reputable as you can get, but I am guessing you will disagree.

"But according to the Kasich adviser (who spoke only under the condition that he not be named), Donald Jr. wanted to make him an offer nonetheless: Did he have any interest in being the most powerful vice president in history?

When Kasich’s adviser asked how this would be the case, Donald Jr. explained that his father’s vice president would be in charge of domestic and foreign policy.

Then what, the adviser asked, would Trump be in charge of?

“Making America great again” was the casual reply."

Here is the link to the whole article:

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/07/20/magazine/how-donald-trump-picked-his-running-mate.html


of course the vice president would be in charge of negotiating legislation on domestic and foreign policy on capitol hill.

whats your interpretation of the responsibilities of the vice president?

some say "point man", some say "in charge of"

jesus our press is ignorant as ****
 

appalachiatiger

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@nextoffensivecoord

sorry man, its so frustrating that people, including you ***** about stupid ****.

nothing about specific policy- those who oppose trump go silent.

"build a wall" is their go to policy point of disagreement, and ive posted the stupidity of the extreme view of discontent of cntxt.

next im going be hearing about how trump pissing holding his johnson with his left hand v his right hand is the worst thing in this world and how horrible of a man he is for doing so.
 

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It's not the World, it's the Islamic Extremists that are the problem!

They aren't "extreme." They're devout. "Extreme" and "radical" are terms that we placed on them because we didn't understand the Quran or Sharia law. Muslims want to exterminate Jews and Christians. Muslims who don't want these things are simply doing it wrong. Period. Muslims who have assimilated into Western Culture are simply NOT Muslims. They have essentially created a new religion. Unfortunately, we use phrases like, "Not all Muslims are violent. You should meet the couple in my neighborhood..." to couch our stance on Islam. The funniest thing is these rappers and other celebs who claim to be Muslim, probably just because they like the name "Muhammed." Most of them don't even own a translated copy of the Quran, but our society is so dumb that we come to understand these examples as being "peaceful Muslims." Until we figure this out, the world will never be safe from "extremists."

"I'm not really a spiritual type Muslim. Prayin all the time at the Mosque, that ain't me." -Ice Cube
 
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They aren't "extreme." They're devout. "Extreme" and "radical" are terms that we placed on them because we didn't understand the Quran or Sharia law. Muslims want to exterminate Jews and Christians. Muslims who don't want these things are simply doing it wrong. Period. Muslims who have assimilated into Western Culture are simply NOT Muslims. They have essentially created a new religion. Unfortunately, we use phrases like, "Not all Muslims are violent. You should meet the couple in my neighborhood..." to couch our stance on Islam. The funniest thing is these rappers and other celebs who claim to be Muslim, probably just because they like the name "Muhammed." Most of them don't even own a translated copy of the Quran, but our society is so dumb that we come to understand these examples as being "peaceful Muslims." Until we figure this out, the world will never be safe from "extremists."

"I'm not really a spiritual type Muslim. Prayin all the time at the Mosque, that ain't me." -Ice Cube

 

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The best thing that could happen to this county is charges be brought on both candidates and both have to forfeit so we can get a do over and maybe pick two better candidates.
 

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The best thing that could happen to this county is charges be brought on both candidates and both have to forfeit so we can get a do over and maybe pick two better candidates.

like who?

a majority of americans want to elect an outsider just to see if rocking the boat and making people who work in washington understand that the way they are performing their jobs and functions are not working in the best interest on "main street"

"wall street",
"washington",
"foreign govts",
and "defense contractors"

EDIT- add "illegal immigrants" and "refugees"

all 6 of these interest are put before "main street"

its time for change

both parties have a primary process that lasted almost a year.

donald trump is the only one left standing out of 17 possible options

on the democratic ticket, we all know it was rigged and that hillary was in line and had put in her time and was crowned the option before their process even began.

hats off to bernie for fighting her. but even he turned into a puss in the end.

how about a cruz/sanders ticket? lol i kid i kid
 

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of course the vice president would be in charge of negotiating legislation on domestic and foreign policy on capitol hill.

whats your interpretation of the responsibilities of the vice president?

some say "point man", some say "in charge of"

jesus our press is ignorant as ****
I think you are the ignorant one here. "In charge of foreign and donestic policy" sounds like what GHWB, Dan Quale, Al Gore, and Joe Biden were in charge of? Take your head out of the sand. This is all about Trump's ego.
 

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Since you are not familiar with Google, here you go. The New York Times is about as reputable as you can get, but I am guessing you will disagree.

"But according to the Kasich adviser (who spoke only under the condition that he not be named), Donald Jr. wanted to make him an offer nonetheless: Did he have any interest in being the most powerful vice president in history?

When Kasich’s adviser asked how this would be the case, Donald Jr. explained that his father’s vice president would be in charge of domestic and foreign policy.

Then what, the adviser asked, would Trump be in charge of?

“Making America great again” was the casual reply."

Here is the link to the whole article:

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/07/20/magazine/how-donald-trump-picked-his-running-mate.html

He would also be in charge of redecorating the White House


 

nextoffensivecoord

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lol- ok time to move on...
Not sure why that's laughable. The VP basically has no duties except to be available in case of the death of the president and to break ties in the Senate. The fact that Trump basically offered Kasich all of the duties of the president just shows that this whole ordeal is just about Trump's ego. But I guess it makes sense, since he has offered ZERO policy ideas.
 

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of course the vice president would be in charge of negotiating legislation on domestic and foreign policy on capitol hill.

whats your interpretation of the responsibilities of the vice president?

some say "point man", some say "in charge of"

jesus our press is ignorant as ****

Got to tell you, you really know little about American politics. The VP does only what the president wants the VP to do. In no administration I am familiar with has the president delegated all legislative responsibilities to the VP. You may say, "but the VP is president of the Senate." Yeah, so what? He rarely attends Senate sessions and is only critical if the body is split 50-50. Otherwise he doesn't vote and spends little time on Capitol Hill.

As for your other charges about my lying, Trump himself told an interviewer that women should be punished for having an abortion. When he saw the furor it caused, he quickly backtracked. He backtracked on his ban of all Muslim immigrants, too, saying now that he wants to target immigrants from certain countries.

Oh, and in his speech he said he was the only one who could fix the way politics are played in Washington. His words. Not mine.

The man is an ever-changing chameleon. And dangerous.
 

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@kgwillison

If you have a difference of opinion, take the effort to explain your views and let that be your argument. sure

If it were another candidate other than Donald Trump, I don't think anyone on this board would be so enamored. speculation

He implies he wants a police state (how we he make the streets safe on Jan. 20 2017 otherwise?)
speculation- he will round up policing experts lile sherriff david clark to devise a plan to make our streets safer v so far, all ive heard is apologies and excuses from the current democrats.

He doesn't want to follow through on our treaties. he wants to restructure our treaties that treat americans more fairly. if you peruse our various treaties, most are not in american citizens best interest.

He wants to spend money on infrastructure without the means to pay for it. again, this comment makes no sense.

He doesn't want to deal with the entitlement problem. not true, this is a lie.

He says we need to attack ISIS but refuses to say we need more troops on the ground. in war, you keep your specific plan secret to carry out the mission by protecting our soldiers. telling the public our battle plan is ridiculous and catering to the "politically correct" is absolutely assinine.

He said he wanted to put women who have abortions in jail. Until he didn't say that. total ********. another lie.

got anything of real substance to disagree with trump that is unamerican or doesnt put the amercian taxpayer first.


App ... you keep claiming that everyone is lying about Donald Trump yet you are unwilling to acknowledge his own fabrications. Well, here's a nonpartisan site that will help you out. Click on the link for an interesting chart.

 
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Got to tell you, you really know little about American politics. The VP does only what the president wants the VP to do. In no administration I am familiar with has the president delegated all legislative responsibilities to the VP. You may say, "but the VP is president of the Senate." Yeah, so what? He rarely attends Senate sessions and is only critical if the body is split 50-50. Otherwise he doesn't vote and spends little time on Capitol Hill.

As for your other charges about my lying, Trump himself told an interviewer that women should be punished for having an abortion. When he saw the furor it caused, he quickly backtracked. He backtracked on his ban of all Muslim immigrants, too, saying now that he wants to target immigrants from certain countries.

Oh, and in his speech he said he was the only one who could fix the way politics are played in Washington. His words. Not mine.

The man is an ever-changing chameleon. And dangerous.

Foreign policy point man---

1-

The Vice President met with Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan today at the St. Regis hotel, where the two leaders reaffirmed the close alliance between the United States and Turkey. The Vice President condemned the recent terrorist attacks in Ankara, Istanbul, and Diyarbakir Province, and offered his deepest condolences to the innocent civilians injured and killed in the attacks, their families, and to the Turkish people. The Vice President reiterated that the United States considers the PKK a designated Foreign Terrorist Organization, and the two leaders pledged to deepen cooperation in the fight against all forms of terrorism, including the PKK. The Vice President and President Erdogan also reaffirmed their shared goal of defeating ISIL, and discussed ways to further deepen our military cooperation as part of the Global Coalition to Counter ISIL. The two leaders discussed efforts to reach a negotiated political solution in Syria, and expressed their support for the current Cessation of Hostilities. The Vice President reiterated the United States' unwavering commitment to Turkey's national security as a NATO Ally.

2-

Vice President Biden met today with President of Azerbaijan Ilham Aliyev on the margins of the Nuclear Security Summit. The leaders discussed cooperation on security issues, including counterterrorism, and the importance of the Southern Gas Corridor to boosting European energy security. The Vice President welcomed the recent releases from prison of human rights and civil society activists and encouraged continued progress, underscoring the importance of civil society and rule of law to Azerbaijan's economic prosperity and development. Addressing the Nagorno-Karabakh conflict, the Vice President expressed concern about continued violence, called for dialogue, and emphasized the importance of a comprehensive settlement for the long-term stability, security, and prosperity of the region.

AND---

U.S. Vice President Joseph Biden (R) arrives at the Capitol with Office of Management and Budget Director Jacob Lew (L) for a meeting with congressional leaders March 3, 2011 on Capitol Hill in Washington, DC. Biden had a bicameral and bipartisan meeting with congressional leaders to discuss the FY2012 budget requests from the Obama Administration.

i could go on and on with stories of the vice president meeting with foreign leaders and congressional leaders.
 

appalachiatiger

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App ... you keep claiming that everyone is lying about Donald Trump yet you are unwilling to acknowledge his own fabrications. Well, here's a nonpartisan site that will help you out. Click on the link for an interesting chart.


yea i see the chart but dont see the 50 or so "statements"

just from this past week, i have seen mostly media twisting his words and statements

so i will take that with a grain of salt until i see the 50 statements

i would have bought in more if they would have been more honest about hillary and her untruthfulness

skewed data by a hillary supporter is my view

hey hillary is speaking