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kgwillison

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Well why did you post the pic of Ivanka???? It was because you think she looks good. I just agreed. And if you are voting for Hillary, what are your reasons for supporting her? Do you have an affection for bitchy, lying, crooked felons that will run this country into the ground?
I have an aversion to a person who thinks HE is the only person who can solve a problem and one who seems to want to create a police state on Jan 20 2017.

I don't like Clinton but Trump is frightening.

I will say that Tim Kaine will be a fine VP. Strong Christian man. Won votes from Dems and Reps in Va.
 

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I have an aversion to a person who thinks HE is the only person who can solve a problem and one who seems to want to create a police state on Jan 20 2017.

I don't like Clinton but Trump is frightening.

I will say that Tim Kaine will be a fine VP. Strong Christian man. Won votes from Dems and Reps in Va.
Well like it or not... you have 2 choices. Trump or the other one. Not voting is just ignorant imo.... TRUMP2016
 
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Well like it or not... you have 2 choices. Trump or the other one. Not voting is just ignorant imo.... TRUMP2106
 

kgwillison

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Well like it or not... you have 2 choices. Trump or the other one. Not voting is just ignorant imo.... TRUMP2106

Oh I am voting. I live in Virginia so my vote will be important. Here's what I have concluded:

The country can survive 4 years of Hillary Clinton and Tim Kaine.

I don't think it can survive Donald Trump should he become president. He won't pull the country together, he will tear it apart. No way anyone in Congress will bother working with him to pass good legislation.

His values aren't my values. His economic plans aren't what I favor either. He doesn't want to touch entitlements? He wants to spend more on infrastructure? Sounds like taxes will have to go up to me. He won't honor our pact with NATO allies? Who is this clown?

Up to now, I was proud to be a Republican. It isn't my party anymore.
 
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Oh I am voting. I live in Virginia so my vote will be important. Here's what I have concluded:

The country can survive 4 years of Hillary Clinton and Tim Kaine.

I don't think it can survive Donald Trump should he become president. He won't pull the country together, he will tear it apart. No way anyone in Congress will bother working with him to pass good legislation.

His values aren't my values. His economic plans aren't what I favor either. He doesn't want to touch entitlements? He wants to spend more on infrastructure? Sounds like taxes will have to go up to me. He won't honor our pact with NATO allies? Who is this clown?

Up to now, I was proud to be a Republican. It isn't my party anymore.
How can you think he will tear this country apart? I totally disagree. This country is so divided and I think he will definitely bring more unity. If you can support Hillary, I don't see how you can say you were ever a Republican. Oil and water. Judge Scalia's seat is vacant on the Supreme Court. 5 vacancies will likely come open in the next 5 or 6 years. If the next President appoints 5 young justices, it would guarantee control of the Supreme Court for an entire generation. If Hilllary wins,you would likely never see another Conservative victory in the Supreme Court for the rest of your life. NOT EVER. And she will go after gun rights. Are you in favor of gun control? That should be enough for you to vote for Trump if you say you "were" a Republican. I can't fathom how anyone can vote for Hillary. CANNOT FATHOM IT. TRUMP2016
 
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Oh I am voting. I live in Virginia so my vote will be important. Here's what I have concluded:

The country can survive 4 years of Hillary Clinton and Tim Kaine.

I don't think it can survive Donald Trump should he become president. He won't pull the country together, he will tear it apart. No way anyone in Congress will bother working with him to pass good legislation.

His values aren't my values. His economic plans aren't what I favor either. He doesn't want to touch entitlements? He wants to spend more on infrastructure? Sounds like taxes will have to go up to me. He won't honor our pact with NATO allies? Who is this clown?

Up to now, I was proud to be a Republican. It isn't my party anymore.

This election isn't about 4 years. It's about who gets to pick the next 2-3 Supreme Court justices. They stay on the bench until they are dead. That is what will change the country forever.

And you naive people who rip Trump for being all about what's best for him make me laugh. All of these candidates have enormous egos and are all about themselves.
 

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How can you think he will tear this country apart? I totally disagree. This country is so divided and I think he will definitely bring more unity. If you can support Hillary, I don't see how you can say you were ever a Republican. Oil and water. Judge Scalia's seat is vacant on the Supreme Court. 5 vacancies will likely come open in the next 5 or 6 years. If the next President appoints 5 young justices, it would guarantee control of the Supreme Court for an entire generation. If Hilllary wins,you would likely never see another Conservative victory in the Supreme Court for the rest of your life. NOT EVER. And she will go after gun rights. Are you in favor of gun control? That should be enough for you to vote for Trump if you say you "were" a Republican. I can't fathom how anyone can vote for Hillary. CANNOT FATHOM IT. TRUMP2106

This. Obama was supposed to bring us together. How's that going?
 
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How can you think he will tear this country apart? I totally disagree. This country is so divided and I think he will definitely bring more unity. If you can support Hillary, I don't see how you can say you were ever a Republican. Oil and water. Judge Scalia's seat is vacant on the Supreme Court. 5 vacancies will likely come open in the next 5 or 6 years. If the next President appoints 5 young justices, it would guarantee control of the Supreme Court for an entire generation. If Hilllary wins,you would likely never see another Conservative victory in the Supreme Court for the rest of your life. NOT EVER. And she will go after gun rights. Are you in favor of gun control? That should be enough for you to vote for Trump if you say you "were" a Republican. I can't fathom how anyone can vote for Hillary. CANNOT FATHOM IT. TRUMP2016

Nobody is surprised that you are having a hard time "fathoming" another person's opinion/thought process.
 
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amynhop

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Nobody is surprised that you are having a hard time "fathoming" another person's opinion/thought process.
And no surprise that good ole bleeding "iceheart' liberal quotes my post and takes a shot at me....
 

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Oh I am voting. I live in Virginia so my vote will be important. Here's what I have concluded:

The country can survive 4 years of Hillary Clinton and Tim Kaine.

I don't think it can survive Donald Trump should he become president. He won't pull the country together, he will tear it apart. No way anyone in Congress will bother working with him to pass good legislation.

His values aren't my values. His economic plans aren't what I favor either. He doesn't want to touch entitlements? He wants to spend more on infrastructure? Sounds like taxes will have to go up to me. He won't honor our pact with NATO allies? Who is this clown?

Up to now, I was proud to be a Republican. It isn't my party anymore.

Problem is he wants to lower taxes as well. Think the deficit is bad now?
 
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What on earth makes you think Trump will be worth a damn in a crisis? There is nothing in his history to predict a cool head, or even competence. The only thing he's ever been good at is making sure he gets the best end of a transaction.
How is the Obama/Clinton working out for us
 

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You mean the same former Secretary of State and US senator that did jack **** in Benghazi and got people killed? The same former Secretary of State and US senator that broke laws with Top Secret emails on a personal server that is explicitly clear in Fed protocol? The same former Secretary of State and US senator that wants to continue Mr. Obama's policies to destroy America?

This is going to get fun buddy.
Are you as ignorant as you sound?
 
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I have an aversion to a person who thinks HE is the only person who can solve a problem and one who seems to want to create a police state on Jan 20 2017.

I don't like Clinton but Trump is frightening.

I will say that Tim Kaine will be a fine VP. Strong Christian man. Won votes from Dems and Reps in Va.
 

amynhop

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@ladedade Did you take that bogus People magazine meme down of Trump down because you realized that it's BS and he never said it? Um yeah, to answer your question, I think he's got my back.
 

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Politics are so stupid. Trump (who has my vote) is one of the biggest doubled tongue speakers I've ever heard. He will change his few on policy daily some times hourly. He is about as bad of a choice as these dumb republican voters could have chosen. I admit I was hoping for Rubio.

So why would I vote for Trump and not Clinton. She is personally partially responsible for the decline of our society. She is a felon. She is a lier. She also changes position according to who is in the room. She takes money from racist governments for the Clinton foundation. She loves big banks because they pay her big money for her less than memorable liable speeches. She doesn't support the police and speaks of criminal justice reform. People remember who is responsible for the last criminal justice reform. She thinks the constitution is just a piece of paper. To be clear they are both idiots. I guess I will take Trump.
 

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This could get messy for Angela Merkel. The whole open door immigration policy is going to become a much tougher sale throughout Europe. The UK will not be the last defection when all is said and done. I'm not an anti immigrant person but every country owes it to there citizens to properly vet the immigrants being brought into their country.
 
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@ladedade Did you take that bogus People magazine meme down of Trump down because you realized that it's BS and he never said it? Um yeah, to answer your question, I think he's got my back.

Yup - pulled it b/c it wasn't legit - actually surprised because it seems like something he would say. Still think he's a carnival barker though, and he's just running a long con.
 

amynhop

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Yup - pulled it b/c it wasn't legit - actually surprised because it seems like something he would say. Still think he's a carnival barker though, and he's just running a long con.
I'd be interested to hear your opinion of Hillary....
 

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Two points:

Unrestricted immigrant relocation is never good.

Our presidential election this cycle is a centrist Democrat vs a leftist Democrat.

But the blame game will target everyone else.
 
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What on earth makes you think Trump will be worth a damn in a crisis? There is nothing in his history to predict a cool head, or even competence. The only thing he's ever been good at is making sure he gets the best end of a transaction.
Better than the former secretary of state right?
 

kgwillison

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Look. Another dumbass Libtard. GFY.

I think you just answered hospick's question affirmatively.

See, good debate doesn't include name calling, particularly immature words like "libtard." You sound like a child on a playground insulting a classmate.

If you have a difference of opinion, take the effort to explain your views and let that be your argument.

If it were another candidate other than Donald Trump, I don't think anyone on this board would be so enamored.

He implies he wants a police state (how we he make the streets safe on Jan. 20 2017 otherwise?)

He doesn't want to follow through on our treaties.

He wants to spend money on infrastructure without the means to pay for it.

He doesn't want to deal with the entitlement problem.

He says we need to attack ISIS but refuses to say we need more troops on the ground.

He said he wanted to put women who have abortions in jail. Until he didn't say that.

Somehow just because he is Donald J Trump people are willing to overlook his fabrications and his inconsistencies.

Well I can't do that. Not only will Trump lose his race but he will likely cause the Senate to tilt to the Democrats. Maybe then the Republicans can be reborn to be a fiscally conservative, socially moderate party that can appeal to people of all races, education levels and income groups. But until it does, I won't be voting with them.

And for those who question my Republican credentials, my first campaign work was in high school for Richard Nixon and throughout my years since, I've been solid in the GOP camp until the party moved radically away from me.
 

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Two points:

Unrestricted immigrant relocation is never good.

Our presidential election this cycle is a centrist Democrat vs a leftist Democrat.

But the blame game will target everyone else.
if you think Hillary is a "leftist democrat," you dont understand politics. And if you think Trump is a "centrist democrat," he has fooled you too. Trump doesn't really believe most of what actually comes out of his own mouth. When you offer someone the vice presidency and tell them they can be responsible for "foreign and domestic policy," then you know all he cares about is the title.
 

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if you think Hillary is a "leftist democrat," you dont understand politics. And if you think Trump is a "centrist democrat," he has fooled you too. Trump doesn't really believe most of what actually comes out of his own mouth. When you offer someone the vice presidency and tell them they can be responsible for "foreign and domestic policy," then you know all he cares about is the title.

what you said about trump is not true. absolutely not true, quit lying
 

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I don't like Clinton but Trump is frightening.

I'm a Republican who had never voted Dem before and feel this way. Hillary is awful, a disgusting choice who makes me want to vomit. But Trump is flat out scary. He's basically selling a dictatorship/fascism. He also seems to have the maturity and judgement of a 10 year old.
 

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Well the possibility exists that this attack in Germany was a xenophobe who didn't like Turks in Germany. Reminds me of a guy like Trump ... or one of his xenophobic followers. Believe me, I am as nervous about a nativist American doing a shooting in these States as I am a radical Islamist.

Every time there is one of these shootings that the common man in the streets thinks "here is another jihadi or wanna be jihadi" murdering people, the media and a lot of US citizens seem to want it to be a white, conservative, "right wing" whack job or Euro neo Nazi group. Even though they are more likely to shoot up an IRS office or something of the sort u would think. And even when there are reports early on about shouting allahu akbar according to witnesses.

And then of course it turns out to be what the dumb inbred man in the street figured it was all along. It's almost comical to watch it play out.
 

appalachiatiger

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@kgwillison

If you have a difference of opinion, take the effort to explain your views and let that be your argument. sure

If it were another candidate other than Donald Trump, I don't think anyone on this board would be so enamored. speculation

He implies he wants a police state (how we he make the streets safe on Jan. 20 2017 otherwise?)
speculation- he will round up policing experts lile sherriff david clark to devise a plan to make our streets safer v so far, all ive heard is apologies and excuses from the current democrats.

He doesn't want to follow through on our treaties. he wants to restructure our treaties that treat americans more fairly. if you peruse our various treaties, most are not in american citizens best interest.

He wants to spend money on infrastructure without the means to pay for it. again, this comment makes no sense.

He doesn't want to deal with the entitlement problem. not true, this is a lie.

He says we need to attack ISIS but refuses to say we need more troops on the ground. in war, you keep your specific plan secret to carry out the mission by protecting our soldiers. telling the public our battle plan is ridiculous and catering to the "politically correct" is absolutely assinine.

He said he wanted to put women who have abortions in jail. Until he didn't say that. total ********. another lie.

got anything of real substance to disagree with trump that is unamerican or doesnt put the amercian taxpayer first.


 

appalachiatiger

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Two points:

Unrestricted immigrant relocation is never good.

Our presidential election this cycle is a centrist Democrat vs a leftist Democrat.

But the blame game will target everyone else.

technically trump is a moderate. he takes each issue point by point and doesnt give a flying **** where it falls under the litmus test. he wants to solve problems instead of creating comprehensive plans to go on and on about.
 

appalachiatiger

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Yup - pulled it b/c it wasn't legit - actually surprised because it seems like something he would say. Still think he's a carnival barker though, and he's just running a long con.

@ladedade

dont worry about throwing lies out there. everyone is doing it. they cant argue with his actual policy positions.

gotta throw **** on a wall. thing is, technically society is so far ahead of the game now, these lying bastards are not getting away with it anymore.
 
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This could get messy for Angela Merkel. The whole open door immigration policy is going to become a much tougher sale throughout Europe. The UK will not be the last defection when all is said and done. I'm not an anti immigrant person but every country owes it to there citizens to properly vet the immigrants being brought into their country.


open door immigration policy is one of the most stupid policies ever created.

anyone that supports this policy is just plain ignorant to the understanding of the human condition.
 

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I'd be interested to hear your opinion of Hillary....

Don't like her either....whenever she opens her mouth it sounds like fingernails on a chalkboard. Interestingly, her ideas aren't all bad, but her credibility is. The clintrump debates will be a **** show.
 
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Don't like her either....whenever she opens her mouth it sounds like fingernails on a chalkboard. Interestingly, her ideas aren't all bad, but her credibility is. The clintrump debates will be a **** show.

She does have a horrific voice when she goes to the lecturing mode. Shes just not a natural politician, without her last name she would have been stuck at the state level, if that.
 
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Oh I am voting. I live in Virginia so my vote will be important. Here's what I have concluded:

The country can survive 4 years of Hillary Clinton and Tim Kaine. we will survive 4 years, depends on how much she sales to foreign interest.

I don't think it can survive Donald Trump should he become president. He won't pull the country together, he will tear it apart. No way anyone in Congress will bother working with him to pass good legislation. we will survive 4 years of trump just like we will with hillary. difference is trump will back tax paying americans.

His values aren't my values. His economic plans aren't what I favor either. He doesn't want to touch entitlements? He wants to spend more on infrastructure? Sounds like taxes will have to go up to me. He won't honor our pact with NATO allies? Who is this clown? i would be curiosu to hear what your values are? have you read his economic plans? so farthe plans of bush and obama have been horrible for the american taxpayer. taxes do need to go up to pay for allthe bs we are spending money on, but did you go and read his tax plan?
our nato allies need to start being more involved with nato and sacrifice more wealth and blood. again its notthe american taxpayers job to burden most of the load.


Up to now, I was proud to be a Republican. It isn't my party anymore.

if what the republicans have been doing since 9/11 is your idea of the party, then thats a good thing that you are leaving the party, go support neocons and globalist.
 

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How can you think he will tear this country apart? I totally disagree. This country is so divided and I think he will definitely bring more unity. If you can support Hillary, I don't see how you can say you were ever a Republican. Oil and water. Judge Scalia's seat is vacant on the Supreme Court. 5 vacancies will likely come open in the next 5 or 6 years. If the next President appoints 5 young justices, it would guarantee control of the Supreme Court for an entire generation. If Hilllary wins,you would likely never see another Conservative victory in the Supreme Court for the rest of your life. NOT EVER. And she will go after gun rights. Are you in favor of gun control? That should be enough for you to vote for Trump if you say you "were" a Republican. I can't fathom how anyone can vote for Hillary. CANNOT FATHOM IT. TRUMP2016

@amynhop

he isnot going to tear the country apart. people who are saying that are full of ****
 

appalachiatiger

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She does have a horrific voice when she goes to the lecturing mode. Shes just not a natural politician, without her last name she would have been stuck at the state level, if that.

bullying people by gathering files of their skeletons and using those files to get what they want are the clintons MO.

and if you dont, you may be killed if your name isnt strong enough to keep you alive.
 

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I have an aversion to a person who thinks HE is the only person who can solve a problem and one who seems to want to create a police state on Jan 20 2017.

I don't like Clinton but Trump is frightening.

I will say that Tim Kaine will be a fine VP. Strong Christian man. Won votes from Dems and Reps in Va.

@kgwillison

you dont know who trump really is.

what he means is that he will put a team of experts together that will devise a plan to solve a problem.

thats called leadership.

he doesnt have the answers- but he will find the ones who do and will be proactive and get results.

thats all he has done his whole life. fixed things, built things, look at the skyline of new york.

he even fixed an ice skating rink for the kids that the politicans just couldnt figure out.