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Posted on another board this morning.
We've speculated for a while that the announcement needs to be made before early signing day.
Will the announcement be made as soon as today or tomorrow?
Will the defensive staff be distracted?
Will Bama release Golding right away if it is him?
 
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OklaBama

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I don’t think Lincoln would want to pee on Ruffin’s rug so soon after the OU defense played its best game. Hopefully, by next weekend.
 
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humblesooner said:
I'm thinking RM already knows he won't be the DC.
I also think he knows he has a job at OU.
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I certainly hope not. The new DC should pick the defensive coaches if he’s going to be held accountable. Otherwise, this is just a photo shop.
 
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Ya I don't think Ruffin has any illusion over his future at DC for Riley to have to worry about. I would love for the hire to get announced before the early signing period in case it may sway a recruit or two. But if it ends up being Golding, then I doubt it will be anytime soon since OU may be playing Bama in the playoffs. But who knows.
 
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BillyRay said:
Ya I don't think Ruffin has any illusion over his future at DC for Riley to have to worry about. I would love for the hire to get announced before the early signing period in case it may sway a recruit or two. But if it ends up being Golding, then I doubt it will be anytime soon since OU may be playing Bama in the playoffs. But who knows.
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Golding’s name keeps coming up but has there been any real basis for him coming to OU. I’ve also heard the Ohio State DC’s name mentioned which makes better sense to me in that he is another Leach guy. Or have got him mixed up with some one else? :confused:
 
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Oklabama said:
Golding’s name keeps coming up but has there been any real basis for him coming to OU. I’ve also heard the Ohio State DC’s name mentioned which makes better sense to me in that he is another Leach guy. Or have got him mixed up with some one else? :confused:
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Ya who knows man. Couple of guys on the pay board that usually have great sources are tight lipped as well about what they know. Most smoke/fire is pointed towards Golding. I'm sure most of that is being driven by fans/media wanting that hire to happen. No way to know what the truth is at this point.
 
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If it is Golding, then I don't expect that he will be introduced until after Jan 1.

If it is Grench from Ohio State, then possibly it will be announced earlier.

I have no sources ... just my guess.
 
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Greg Schiano is from "Tom Herman's Asshat School of Coaching." No thanks.
 
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Oklabama said:
I certainly hope not. The new DC should pick the defensive coaches if he’s going to be held accountable. Otherwise, this is just a photo shop.
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I keep seeing posts like this but this is just not how coordinators are brought in. Did Lincoln Riley completely recreate his staff on offense? Nope he brought in one coach...Simmons and they did some assignment shuffling. Was that photo shop?

This idea that any coach from the present staff surviving this change somehow undermines our opportunity for success is just off-based. This is NOT a head coaching change. No coordinator is going to expect to name every position spot. It’s just not something that is routinely done.
 
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tdsooners said:
I keep seeing posts like this but this is just not how coordinators are brought in. Did Lincoln Riley completely recreate his staff on offense? Nope he brought in one coach...Simmons and they did some assignment shuffling. Was that photo shop?

This idea that any coach from the present staff surviving this change somehow undermines our opportunity for success is just off-based. This is NOT a head coaching change. No coordinator is going to expect to name every position spot. It’s just not something that is routinely done.
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Just going by “he will have complete control of the defense”. I guess you can interpret that anyway you like, but keeping Ruffin without Goldling’s acceptance......well, you might as well throw your wallet in the harbor. The price tag is approximately 1.2 Million Dollars. Why would Goldling want Ruffin. No room for anymore Bromance coaches.
 
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Oklabama said:
Just going by “he will have complete control of the defense”. I guess you can interpret that anyway you like, but keeping Ruffin without Goldling’s acceptance......well, you might as well throw your wallet in the harbor. The price tag is approximately 1.2 Million Dollars. Why would Goldling want Ruffin. No room for anymore Bromance coaches.
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The “bromamce” comment is stupid. Ruffin has 30 years coaching in many systems. He is a guy the present players like and trust. Having him there to help mesh new concepts with old ones and to help explain where players are in their development. To help sell the new vision to the guys we have now has a ton of value. That’s why any new DC would want a guy like Ruffin.
Now maybe that’s what happens and maybe not, but you guys who act like it’s somehow a waste of time and money bringing in a new DC and keeping anyone on that side of the ball to help with the transition, don’t understand how organizations work. This isn’t just football. You see this in almost any organization that successfully makes a big change. You need people who have a strong understanding of where you are to make the changes necessary to get where you want to be. Having a resource like Ruffin shortens the time it takes to get from A to B dramatically.
 
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tdsooners said:
The “bromamce” comment is stupid. Ruffin has 30 years coaching in many systems. He is a guy the present players like and trust. Having him there to help mesh new concepts with old ones and to help explain where players are in their development. To help sell the new vision to the guys we have now has a ton of value. That’s why any new DC would want a guy like Ruffin.
Now maybe that’s what happens and maybe not, but you guys who act like it’s somehow a waste of time and money bringing in a new DC and keeping anyone on that side of the ball to help with the transition, don’t understand how organizations work. This isn’t just football. You see this in almost any organization that successfully makes a big change. You need people who have a strong understanding of where you are to make the changes necessary to get where you want to be. Having a resource like Ruffin shortens the time it takes to get from A to B dramatically.
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So, we just don’t agree. How’s that? Or do want to continue to tell me how stupid I am? If so, shoot your wad.
 
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Oklabama said:
So, we just don’t agree. How’s that? Or do want to continue to tell me how stupid I am? If so, shoot your wad.
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Not you....just the comment. I’m sure I make a stupid comment here and there too. I’m just saying that it’s rare for a coordinator to come in and get rid of the entire staff on their side of the ball, and there’s good reason for that. We’ll see what happens, but don’t be surprised if some of those guys on D are still coaching next year.
 
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tdsooners said:
Not you....just the comment. I’m sure I make a stupid comment here and there too. I’m just saying that it’s rare for a coordinator to come in and get rid of the entire staff on their side of the ball, and there’s good reason for that. We’ll see what happens, but don’t be surprised if some of those guys on D are still coaching next year.
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Nice comeback. Boomer! But MY comment wasn’t stupid. LOL
 
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tdsooners said:
I keep seeing posts like this but this is just not how coordinators are brought in. Did Lincoln Riley completely recreate his staff on offense? Nope he brought in one coach...Simmons and they did some assignment shuffling. Was that photo shop?

This idea that any coach from the present staff surviving this change somehow undermines our opportunity for success is just off-based. This is NOT a head coaching change. No coordinator is going to expect to name every position spot. It’s just not something that is routinely done.
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How it's done depends upon the circumstances. For example, did the outgoing coordinator leave of his own free will and volition, perhaps for a head coaching job or a similar spot at a marquee program, or was he fired for poor results? The answer to that question would bear on the latitude given the new coordinator.
 
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Why would OU hire the DC from OSU when their defense performed just as bad as ours did this season?
 
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thatdude35 said:
It’s this. Ruffin knows and will still be on staff.
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Well, if that’s so then it’s apparent Lincoln needs a teddy bear to make him feel comfortable because this year’s DL performed poorly under Ruffin. There’s no reason to believe he would do better next year with a new DC. Now if Riley has a non-coaching position in mind for Ruffin that’s different.
 
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