Owen Freeman is already the best Hawkeye of the Fran era

Iza

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You could put either Murray or Garza in a game against him and he'd outplay them, especially on the defensive end. I'm not talking about NBA prospects or NPOY numbers, I'm saying this kid is a better overall player than them because he's actually good on both ends of the court. They didn't win the Illinois state title because Harding likes to over dribble. They won because this kid is a baller again ALL competition. The MOST pleasant surprise of the Fan era. Awesome!
 

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You could put either Murray or Garza in a game against him and he'd outplay them, especially on the defensive end. I'm not talking about NBA prospects or NPOY numbers, I'm saying this kid is a better overall player than them because he's actually good on both ends of the court. They didn't win the Illinois state title because Harding likes to over dribble. They won because this kid is a baller again ALL competition. The MOST pleasant surprise of the Fan era. Awesome!
Hello Mrs Freeman
 

Iza

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Pump the brakes


He has a chance to be.

Let's let him develop
Most people don't develop on the defensive end, especially under Fran. We recruit the worst lateral athletes in the country. Including Garza and the Murrays. Now the Sandforts, Harding, at times Perkins. With Owen we got a natural dawg and athlete with enough bounce, etc. He's the most valuable Hawkeyes since Aaron White.. The other guys don't affect WINNING.
 

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You could put either Murray or Garza in a game against him and he'd outplay them, especially on the defensive end. I'm not talking about NBA prospects or NPOY numbers, I'm saying this kid is a better overall player than them because he's actually good on both ends of the court. They didn't win the Illinois state title because Harding likes to over dribble. They won because this kid is a baller again ALL competition. The MOST pleasant surprise of the Fan era. Awesome!
You evidently never saw Moline High School play last year, not one game, did you. Your opinion of Owen is quite flattering to be sure but he wasn't the only reason Moline won the 4A State Basketball tournament for the first time in school history, but carry on with your over the top bull crap, Owen is very good for a freshman and is only going to get better, but saying that he'd outplay either Murray's or Garza is extremely naïve and down right untrue, not even close....!
 
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This is as crazy of a take as I've read in awhile but I hope you're right
 
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I'm sorry...but Keegan Murray as a sophomore and Luka Garza his last two years would have used the freshman Freeman. Garza was way too big, and skilled and would have his way down low. Keegan would just go right through him.

Please note...I think Freeman is going to be a great player. He needs to get stronger and add some weight, but you can tell he's special. Now, Freeman with 20 pounds and another year of skill development would push both Murray and Garza on both ends.
 

Iza

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I'm sorry...but Keegan Murray as a sophomore and Luka Garza his last two years would have used the freshman Freeman. Garza was way too big, and skilled and would have his way down low. Keegan would just go right through him.

Please note...I think Freeman is going to be a great player. He needs to get stronger and add some weight, but you can tell he's special. Now, Freeman with 20 pounds and another year of skill development would push both Murray and Garza on both ends.
You don't have to open with an apology. We aren't married. :) Freeman is a capable athlete, unlike Garza. And he's aggressive, unlike Murray. The dude is the only bright spot on this otherwise terrible roster.
 

1inamillion

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You don't have to open with an apology. We aren't married. :) Freeman is a capable athlete, unlike Garza. And he's aggressive, unlike Murray. The dude is the only bright spot on this otherwise terrible roster.
You think
You don't have to open with an apology. We aren't married. :) Freeman is a capable athlete, unlike Garza. And he's aggressive, unlike Murray. The dude is the only bright spot on this otherwise terrible roster.
You think Perkins and Sandfort are terrible?
 
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You don't have to open with an apology. We aren't married. :) Freeman is a capable athlete, unlike Garza. And he's aggressive, unlike Murray. The dude is the only bright spot on this otherwise terrible roster.
BTW, I wasn't laughing at your joke. I laughed at your statement about the "otherwise terrible roster". Really?
 
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Iza

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5 time Big 10 Freshman of the week. Yes, otherwise terrible roster.
 

Iza

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Why is Perkins terrible?
Sorry, I meant to include Perkins as the 1 other Big10 player. Just without a position and inconsistent. But yes, Freeman, then Perkins, then do a Deion with the rest of the roster and tell them they'll probably better suited for mid-major teams.
 

1inamillion

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Sorry, I meant to include Perkins as the 1 other Big10 player. Just without a position and inconsistent. But yes, Freeman, then Perkins, then do a Deion with the rest of the roster and tell them they'll probably better suited for mid-major teams.
Harding has great potential. Sandfort can shoot. Would not give up on them.
 
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1inamillion

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You being wrong is different from me being sensative.
Do you still think the roster stinks besides freeman and Perkins. I would bet many teams would love to have dix and Sandfort ability to shoot. Love the way this team is starting to hit shots. I think your analysis will not look good.
 

HawkTex

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You could put either Murray or Garza in a game against him and he'd outplay them, especially on the defensive end. I'm not talking about NBA prospects or NPOY numbers, I'm saying this kid is a better overall player than them because he's actually good on both ends of the court. They didn't win the Illinois state title because Harding likes to over dribble. They won because this kid is a baller again ALL competition. The MOST pleasant surprise of the Fan era. Awesome!
Freeman is very solid for a freshman. Solid upside. However, your statement is beyond laughable.
 

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So what you are saying is Fran is the greatest coach in college basketball??
His best player ever is a true freshman averaging 20 min a game and everyone else sucks, but yet they still have a winning record, that's incredible!

I hope Freeman is as good as you think, but I think Fran has had a pretty impressive list of players make 1st Team BIG- I believe Gatens was his first, Marble, White, Uthoff, Jok, Garza*2 (NPY), Keegan Murray, Kris Murray. And throw in NBA players Joe Wieskamp and Tyler Cook.
 

Graham84

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He’s really good, but let’s see out his career first. Fran’s had some good ones
 

Iza

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8 times Big10 Freshman of the week. Not enough time to touch the record, but very impressive.
 
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Iza

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20 points (6 of 6), 12 boards, 6 assists, 2 steals and 4 blocks in the win against #20 Wisconsin. Any questions?