Bruce Pearl

kfwa

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In today's climate, bring in a coach and give him 2 years to make the final four. No final four in two years, he's out, do it again. No final four in two years with the next guy, he's out, do it again.


Get a guy in, he makes the final four in year one. If he doesn't make it again for the next two years, boom, fired, bring a new guy in.


Has no one figured out that there is no waiting or building anymore. It's a year-to-year deal now. Brand new teams every year via NIL and the transfer portal. At UK, with what they've already proven they are willing to spend on NIL, you can literally be in the hunt for any player. Literally, there's not a single player in college they couldn't steal away if they have the right coach to do it.


2 years, max, to make a final four. The concept of time is over. It's now, literally right now.
I don't think you are as far as most people will initially think.

One thing we all can agree on, when Gillispie was coach, it was give him 5 years to build his team (didn't happen but he was crazy so thats a different issue)

Now with Pope its already the start of year 3 and people can tell what he is doing isn't working.

with the NIL there isn't a "build a team or culture" in terms of years. Its months.

that is the new reality.
 

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the same reason at Cal

UK is his white whale.

He wants that validation
Dude is 66, in Atlanta in the TNT studio. He left Auburn with the program coming off a F4, did his last act passing the baton to his son. Last thing he wants is the white whale. His whole personna is designed for TV.
 
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I hate to break it to you, but Stokes does not give two ***** about KU's history. He went to play for Self specifically and because the NIL packaging was right. If Self were at Texas Tech with the same NIL Stokes would be playing in black and red.

Everyone keeps saying a number of guys would come here, but there is literally no proof of this. Izzo, Wright, Donovan all turned it down in 2007. A number of guys turned it down in 2024. Where are all these guys who would come here?

UNC got a guy with an NBA ring (on the back of Jokic if we're being fair), but he wasn't their first, second, or third choice. They struck out on all the big college names and were forced to pivot to an NBA guy.

And this isn't a Kentucky specific thing. You act like we're putting down Kentucky by saying blue bloods aren't attractive. But in 2026 they simply aren't and it applies to all blue blood college basketball programs, not just Kentucky. There's a reason Duke and UNC hired from within to replace their legends. Because that was less risky than rolling the dice. UNC didn't choose to hire a fired NBA coach to replace Davis, they were forced to. Kansas will see the same thing when it's time to replace Self. Proven college coaches like Dusty May will leave for the NBA, but they're not leaving for another college job.

There simply isn't actual real world evidence that blue blood basketball programs are draws in 2026. And there's a ton of evidence to the contrary.
Thanks you made my argument for me. Stokes went to the coach with 2 rings and not Pope who has no significant success as a head coach. Malone didn't have nothing to do with their ring which was their first championship ever and being their all time winningest coach 🙄.

Let me make this easier for you. Believe it or not there are men who will for example leave a cushy ceo job to go and try to rebuild a company that has a historically successful past but has fallen on tough times. You either have that in your DNA or you dont.

By your philosophy we should just keep Pope and accept a S16 as our ceiling because nobody else will come here.. No thanks for me and the great thing is we will probably see this question answered next spring.
 

BBNinSCar

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Funny how you guys ALWAYS talk about who you don’t want the as the next head coach, but NEVER offer up who you think should be the next head coach…

And I’d bet $5 that neither you nor the poster that you were responding to will do just that!

So, let’s hear it… Who is your guy’s top candidates to replace Pope once his services are over?
I’ve posted this here several times. Josh Shertz is my one and only choice. I do not want, nor do I believe Kentucky would consider, Pearl or Donovan. Oats and Golden would listen to UK, but publicly turn us down- which is a very bad look for a blue blood.
Shertz will have a new job next season- it should be in Lexington.
 

BigBluefoot

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I see Pitino and Pearl as short-term fixes while we figure out what our long-term solution would be. Both would offer an immediate spark and success.
Yeah, I think both would be excellent in the short term. I can't see Rick coaching much longer, and Pearl is no spring chicken either.
 

kfwa

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Dude is 66, in Atlanta in the TNT studio. He left Auburn with the program coming off a F4, did his last act passing the baton to his son. Last thing he wants is the white whale. His whole personna is designed for TV.
there is no denying that he's coveted the Kentucky job for a very long time

and if it was offered, he is going to consider it.

I feel strongly he won't reject it outright.

I'm not one of these people that think any coach would take the job if offered, but I suspect whatever decisions Bruce Pearl has made has been because he thought the UK job was never going to be offered.
 

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Pearl would be an absolutely phenomenal coach for us. Anyone who thinks he’s too old has no idea what they’re talking about if they really believe themselves, although most likely they’re only saying that to deal with their own internal emo crap anyway.

Also Pearl would come here in a heartbeat.

So would Rick Pitino, who would be just as good.

Kelvin Sampson is right around that same level and is probably gettable too.

Oats, Donovan, and most of the other names being thrown around would be a ***** to get and wouldn’t ultimately get us where we want to be anyway. Maybe one of those people would get us to the level we were at in the middle years of Tubby’s tenure if we got lucky.

Sure, Golden, May, or Hurley would be great hires. But none of those people would consider coming here. You hire Pitino, Pearl, or Sampson, like that bottom feeder Mitch should have done in 2024, then in three or four years they’ll have the program where a Golden, a Hurley, or even a May will have a reason to want to talk to us. We just have to hope Jason “J” Batt is a little less dense than the sticks in the mud who can’t see that.
Pearl has retired, he’s not coming here to compete against his son. Sampson is 71 and will stay at Houston until retirement and his son takes over as coach.
Why would Oats, and especially Golden leave their job(s) to come to Lexington? Both seem like future NBA coaches and their current jobs would match any offer UK made. None of these four are viable candidates and I don’t believe our admin would even contact Pearl or Sampson.
 

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I don’t dislike pearl at all, I just think he would be a very temporary solution. He’s definitely a good coach.
 

BBNinSCar

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Thanks you made my argument for me. Stokes went to the coach with 2 rings and not Pope who has no significant success as a head coach. Malone didn't have nothing to do with their ring which was their first championship ever and being their all time winningest coach 🙄.

Let me make this easier for you. Believe it or not there are men who will for example leave a cushy ceo job to go and try to rebuild a company that has a historically successful past but has fallen on tough times. You either have that in your DNA or you dont.

By your philosophy we should just keep Pope and accept a S16 as our ceiling because nobody else will come here.. No thanks for me and the great thing is we will probably see this question answered next spring.
It’s too easy to suggest the same old tired names for Pope’s replacement. There is no energy in Pearl or Donovan. We need an AD that can evaluate coaching talent and potential at UK. Our AD should be able to find a winner, ready to advance to a coveted position in Lexington.
Just frickin call Shertz and make it easy on yourselves and give the fanbase a coach we deserve.
 

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Here's the story with regard to politics. Pearl is very active on X, passionately standing up for Jewish people and going after antisemitism including Islam. Most universities, including UK, won't touch that. Not so much because of agreement or disagreement with the subject matter (at least not publicly) but because he has so publicly taken a side in a controversial political issue. Pearl will never coach here.
 

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Pearl has retired, he’s not coming here to compete against his son. Sampson is 71 and will stay at Houston until retirement and his son takes over as coach.
Why would Oats, and especially Golden leave their job(s) to come to Lexington? Both seem like future NBA coaches and their current jobs would match any offer UK made. None of these four are viable candidates and I don’t believe our admin would even contact Pearl or Sampson.
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Based on their friendship, Oats will probably be the first call Batt makes. He needs to call Golden obviously, but Golden will probably laugh at him and hang up. I expect Batt to get a lot of this actually.


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You know Todd Golden is Jewish, right? I feel like he wouldn't laugh condescendingly if he was offered the potential #1 coaching salary in all of college basketball. Just saying. 🤣
https://www.si.com/college/2019/03/...oaches-salaries-list-kentucky-krzyzewski-izzo
https://thenilstandard.com/basketball/teams
(#1 NIL as well.)
 

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I’ve posted this here several times. Josh Shertz is my one and only choice. I do not want, nor do I believe Kentucky would consider, Pearl or Donovan. Oats and Golden would listen to UK, but publicly turn us down- which is a very bad look for a blue blood.
Shertz will have a new job next season- it should be in Lexington.
I've known about Shertz since he was at LMU, as I have always kept up with the Splitters. Yeah, Shertz can flat out coach and his teams are fun to watch.
 

kfwa

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last year I would have been in the no to Bruce Pearl camp

but its ugly right now and the UK fans need someone who is an immediate success.

I'd be for any coach that could be that person, so I'm not tied to Bruce Pearl. My defense of Bruce Pearl is more about how desperate the UK situation is

My personal choice would be to get a coach who clearly understands the NIL and what it takes to win in November and March.

I would not want another coach doing well but has zero March resume, and throwing out any name of a coach who doesn't have that resume is just rolling the dice, which got us in this mess in the first place.
 
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You know Todd Golden is Jewish, right? I feel like he wouldn't laugh maniacally if he was offered the #1 coaching salary in all of college basketball. Just saying. 🤣
Are we gonna offer more than the Golden State Warriors? And no, I was unaware of his religion. Religious stereotypes are often low hanging fruit for people to attack. Not that I care one way or another about a person's religion. Pope could worship the great spaghetti monster in the sky for all I care. Congrats. Now go win ball games. For the exact same reason I don't care if we hire a sleezeball if the guy can coach. (though there are certain levels to that, kind of like the prison yard when you show them your papers. Bad paperwork is a no go).
 

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I’ve posted this here several times. Josh Shertz is my one and only choice. I do not want, nor do I believe Kentucky would consider, Pearl or Donovan. Oats and Golden would listen to UK, but publicly turn us down- which is a very bad look for a blue blood.
Shertz will have a new job next season- it should be in Lexington.
one NCAA tournament win ? is that right?
 

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Are we gonna offer more than the Golden State Warriors? And no, I was unaware of his religion. Religious stereotypes are often low hanging fruit for people to attack. Not that I care one way or another about a person's religion. Pope could worship the great spaghetti monster in the sky for all I care. Congrats. Now go win ball games. For the exact same reason I don't care if we hire a sleezeball if the guy can coach. (though there are certain levels to that, kind of like the prison yard when you show them your papers. Bad paperwork is a no go).
He's ethnically Jewish, and it's just a joke. Relax. I have no issue with Jewish people. Also, slow your role. I don't disagree with you about Golden State, but you made it seem like our job is laughable, when it simply is not. I'll clue you in on a little something: Humans like lots of money. We have more money than Florida; it's just a fact. Check my edited post.
 

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He's ethnically Jewish, and it's just a joke. Relax. I have no issue with Jewish people. Also, slow your role. I don't disagree with you about Golden State, but you made it seem like our job is laughable, when it simply is not. I'll clue you in on a little something: Humans like lots of money. Check my edited post.
I am completely relaxed. I don't care that you made a joke about Jews and money, you do you. There is no role to slow big guy. In case you haven't been watching, UK men's basketball is getting laughed at on just about all fronts. To pretend like several established, successful, high major coaches wouldn't laugh at being offered the position is naive and kidding yourself and propping UK up too much. This isn't everyone's white whale.
 

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I am completely relaxed. I don't care that you made a joke about Jews and money, you do you. There is no role to slow big guy. In case you haven't been watching, UK men's basketball is getting laughed at on just about all fronts. To pretend like several established, successful, high major coaches wouldn't laugh at being offered the position is naive and kidding yourself and propping UK up too much. This isn't everyone's white whale.
You didn't address the substance of my posts, so I'll accept your concession. He was shocked by how much money we had when we stole DA from him. He wouldn't laugh at being offered far more money than what he's currently making. Obnoxious morons on the internet might laugh at stupid posts, talking heads might laugh at Mark Pope, but serious people don't laugh at serious job offers.
 
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