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superfan01

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The boosters are the biggest detriment to Rutgers at this point. They care more about their “relationships” than getting RU on the right track.
The boosters had less to do with this. I really think it was as simple as what the buyout would do to the rest of the athethic department that is already running massively in red. It would hamstring the entire department for years to come. And there is no guarantee the next coach would be much better or get us beyond a 7-5 ceiling. We're not LSU. We have a small fan base. Spending on RU football is politically unpopular in this state.

if you want anyone to blame it's 100% on Hobbs.

the best thing for this athletic department is to work down gregs and pikes contracts.
 
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newell138

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Greg kept choppin!!

 

-RUFAN4LIFE-

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The boosters had less to do with this. I really think it was as simple as what the buyout would do to the rest of the athethic department that is already running massively in red. It would hamstring the entire department for years to come. And there is no guarantee the next coach would be much better or get us beyond a 7-5 ceiling. We're not LSU. We have a small fan base. Spending on RU football is politically unpopular in this state.

if you want anyone to blame it's 100% on Hobbs.

the best thing for this athletic department is to work down gregs and pikes contracts.
You literally have no idea what was going on behind the scenes but keep talking like you stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night.
 

scarletbergen

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Schiano is not the problem!
It’s the money! Zinn failed.

Look where we got our transfers from, are you kidding me? We do not have the $$$.
We don’t have the players we need to compete. Fingers crossed, maybe we were saving up NIL for next season.
 

-RUFAN4LIFE-

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Schiano is not the problem!
It’s the money! Zinn failed.

Look where we got our transfers from, are you kidding me? We do not have the $$$.
We don’t have the players we need to compete. Fingers crossed, maybe we were saving up NIL for next season.
Read her official statement from today, it repeatedly says Greg didn't meet the standards expected.

Greg wasted a lot of money on retaining guys that didn't deliver squat, then botched the DC hiring process again, which left him little interested portal targets when the pickings were good.
 

scarletbergen

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Read her official statement from today, it repeatedly says Greg didn't meet the standards expected.

Greg wasted a lot of money on retaining guys that didn't deliver squat, then botched the DC hiring process again, which left him little interested portal targets when the pickings were good.
We will never ever be successful if we keep focusing on the Coach. Schiano has already proven the he is competent. In my opinion, he is a great coach. That aside, Vince Lombardi can’t win in the B1G without lots and lots of great players. It’s the money $$$$$ and Zinn didn’t get the money.
 
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Caliknight

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We will never ever be successful if we keep focusing on the Coach. Schiano has already proven the he is competent. In my opinion, he is a great coach. That aside, Vince Lombardi can’t win in the B1G without lots and lots of great players. It’s the money $$$$$ and Zinn didn’t get the money.
He's a horrible coach. He couldn't even win a watered down BE with the most talent and money.
 

-RUFAN4LIFE-

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We will never ever be successful if we keep focusing on the Coach. Schiano has already proven the he is competent. In my opinion, he is a great coach. That aside, Vince Lombardi can’t win in the B1G without lots and lots of great players. It’s the money $$$$$ and Zinn didn’t get the money.
2-7 with a possible 2-10 or 3-9 is competent?

It all starts and ends with the head coach. He made the decision to not hire a DC quickly, which was the 3rd coordinator search that was longest in the country, he overspent on retaining players that haven’t really produced and brought in very little on defense, and he consistently is out coached and this year the team hasn’t been prepared to play in some games.

Who should we focus on if not Greg for all these issues that he created?
 

SHUSource

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He didn't.
He definitely did not. But if my memory serves right, wasn't there something in Schiano's contract that mandated an extension after X number of years, or perhaps there was some performance clause? Whatever it was, I seem to remember Hobbs (who was completely incompetent, to be sure, other than his instinct not to hire 2.0 in the first place) having his hands tied when it came to the extension, short of letting him go after two or three years.

Am I completely imagining this? It seems like someone would remember this if it were correct, so maybe it's my imagination. I'll look it up and see if I can find something to support that recollection.
 

Shelby65

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Was it really his decision not to hire a DC in time or was it that he couldn’t find anyone to work under his micromanaging, Neanderthal, Keep Choppin clown show ?

Highly doubt the delay was Griftin’ Greg’s choice. He’s a cancer.
 
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SHUSource

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He definitely did not. But if my memory serves right, wasn't there something in Schiano's contract that mandated an extension after X number of years, or perhaps there was some performance clause? Whatever it was, I seem to remember Hobbs (who was completely incompetent, to be sure, other than his instinct not to hire 2.0 in the first place) having his hands tied when it came to the extension, short of letting him go after two or three years.

Am I completely imagining this? It seems like someone would remember this if it were correct, so maybe it's my imagination. I'll look it up and see if I can find something to support that recollection.
Apparently, my memory is way off on this. Gary signed an extension in 2023 after going 6-6. Imagine going 3-6 in conference and getting extended?

You know, I hate the 24-team playoff, but one of its untended consequences will be the dissolution of a bunch of bowl games as "success" comes to be redefined simply as qualifying for the playoff or not. It's speculated that many/most good P4 programs who miss the playoffs will opt out of Weed Eater bowls, leaving them to be filled with G6 and bottom-run P4 teams, which doesn't do much to burnish the reputation of that latter group.

So getting to 6 wins really won't mean anything; certainly not what it has for the last bunch of years, anyway.
 

mdk02

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Schiano is not the problem!
It’s the money! Zinn failed.

Look where we got our transfers from, are you kidding me? We do not have the $$$.
We don’t have the players we need to compete. Fingers crossed, maybe we were saving up NIL for next season.

And maybe a field house too!
 
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Caliknight

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Apparently, my memory is way off on this. Gary signed an extension in 2023 after going 6-6. Imagine going 3-6 in conference and getting extended?

You know, I hate the 24-team playoff, but one of its untended consequences will be the dissolution of a bunch of bowl games as "success" comes to be redefined simply as qualifying for the playoff or not. It's speculated that many/most good P4 programs who miss the playoffs will opt out of Weed Eater bowls, leaving them to be filled with G6 and bottom-run P4 teams, which doesn't do much to burnish the reputation of that latter group.

So getting to 6 wins really won't mean anything; certainly not what it has for the last bunch of years, anyway.
Schiano will sell 6 wins and a toilet bowl like he won the national championship.
 

M.Sherrane

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Apparently, my memory is way off on this. Gary signed an extension in 2023 after going 6-6. Imagine going 3-6 in conference and getting extended?

You know, I hate the 24-team playoff, but one of its untended consequences will be the dissolution of a bunch of bowl games as "success" comes to be redefined simply as qualifying for the playoff or not. It's speculated that many/most good P4 programs who miss the playoffs will opt out of Weed Eater bowls, leaving them to be filled with G6 and bottom-run P4 teams, which doesn't do much to burnish the reputation of that latter group.

So getting to 6 wins really won't mean anything; certainly not what it has for the last bunch of years, anyway.

While we disagree on the playoff expansion (I'd prefer more auto bids instead of 19 At large that the CFP Committee will manage to make controversial due to SEC favoritism), the 12-team playoff has rendered it nearly completely irrelevant, so I completely agree the 24-team will make it meaningless for P4 programs. Last year 6-6 Kansas State refused a bowl. There were four P4 6-6 / 5-7 teams who played in bowl games and half played other P4 programs:

Northwestern beat 7-5 Central Michigan in the GameAbove Sports Bowl
Penn State beat 7-5 Clemson in the Pinstripe Bowl
Cal beat 8-4 Hawaii in the Hawaii Bowl
(5-7) Mississippi State lost to 8-4 Wake Forest in the Duke's Mayo Bowl

Next year's Pinstripe could feature a 6-6 vs 5-7 matchup or a G6 team when you remove 10 -- 12 P4 teams from the Bowl pool. With the number of teams opting out, we could see a couple of 4-8 teams playing in Bowl games.
 
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NickRU714

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We will never ever be successful if we keep focusing on the Coach. Schiano has already proven the he is competent. In my opinion, he is a great coach. That aside, Vince Lombardi can’t win in the B1G without lots and lots of great players. It’s the money $$$$$ and Zinn didn’t get the money.

We will never ever be successful if we keep focusing on the money.

We will never have the money for winning the B1G.
More fake and false arguments to defend Schiano.

Literally nobody expects him to win the B1G.
Nobody expects a new coach to come in and win the B1G (although some posters will 100% hold the new coach to a higher standard than they held Schiano - I would guess you are one of them).

It's about having a coach who can maximize our level of success based on our level of money.

Simple question: Is Schiano achieving 100% success based on our expected funding?
If you say yes, then pur expectations should be bottom of the B1G?
 

SHUSource

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Next year's Pinstripe could feature a 6-6 vs 5-7 matchup or a G6 team when you remove 10 -- 12 P4 teams from the Bowl pool. With the number of teams opting out, we could see a couple of 4-8 teams playing in Bowl games.
Right, and at that point, why bother at all? The bowls will have been rendered not only completely meaningless, but not even reflective of moderate success. A joke, really.

There's no reason to extend the seasons of 6-6 teams (which means they went, like, 3-6 in their conferences), let alone 5-7 and 4-8 teams. They're all bad teams. Good players will opt out (if not entire teams). And the pretty good 9-3 and 8-4 teams that miss the playoff will probably not want to participate in Pop-Tarts type bowls, which I enjoy, but they won't.

Success will be reframed: Playoffs or you failed. No one wants to be part of that, aside from G6 programs, I think they'll still be eager for the exposure, which is understandable.
 
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M.Sherrane

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Right, and at that point, why bother at all? The bowls will have been rendered not only completely meaningless, but not even reflective of moderate success. A joke, really.

There's no reason to extend the seasons of 6-6 teams (which means they went, like, 3-6 in their conferences), let alone 5-7 and 4-8 teams. They're all bad teams. Good players will opt out (if not entire teams). And the pretty good 9-3 and 8-4 teams that miss the playoff will probably not want to participate in Pop-Tarts type bowls, which I enjoy, but they won't.

Success will be reframed: Playoffs or you failed. No one wants to be part of that, aside from G6 programs, I think they'll still be eager for the exposure, which is understandable.

Exactly. There are 35 Bowl games this season that are not affiliated with the playoffs. So, 70 teams will go to bowls. Using last year's standings there would be 18 P4 teams who qualify for a Bowl Game and failed to make the playoffs. There were 37 G6 teams who were bowl eligible that wouldn't get the G6 bid. That means they'll need 15 teams with losing records to play in Bowl Games next year based on last year's standings. We will likely have the awesome opportunity to watch a 5-7 MAC team playing a 5-7 C-USA team in a Bowl next year... I CAN'T WAIT!!!!! :cautious:
 

scarletbergen

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Look at that, I asked @scarletbergen a legitimate question and he disappeared.
We should focus on reality. We should feel lucky to have a Coach who we are not ashamed of! We should demand that the the LSU carpetbaggers either get the money to compete or get out! Zinn and Tate were brought in for football. If they can’t do the job, just like Hobbs before them, they should go.

And, if we aren’t going to compete, the we should consider abandoning the professional college football!
 

scarletbergen

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We will never ever be successful if we keep focusing on the money.

We will never have the money for winning the B1G.
More fake and false arguments to defend Schiano.

Literally nobody expects him to win the B1G.
Nobody expects a new coach to come in and win the B1G (although some posters will 100% hold the new coach to a higher standard than they held Schiano - I would guess you are one of them).

It's about having a coach who can maximize our level of success based on our level of money.

Simple question: Is Schiano achieving 100% success based on our expected funding?
If you say yes, then pur expectations should be bottom of the B1G?
Schiano is a scapegoat for the failure of others.

Without NIL, changing coaches is a flim flam!
It’s three card monte!
 
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