Strange time to be a state football fan

[Bullldawg78]

I found myself in a strange spot Saturday at the game and others seemed to agree. In the past it seemed that it was obvious the coach needed to go (Morehead and Arnett). But this is the first time I've found myself hoping we lose just so we can get rid of Lebby and I'm not sure losing out will do it because he is getting the KT1 pass because of injury? Anyone else feel this horrible feeling?

 

[Howiefeltersnstch]

Not really. Never a fan of replacing coaches. Starting over. He has really screwed this injury situation, QB situation up tho. No confidence in him anymore. Also no confidence we will hire anyone that can do better either tho. Or low at best.

 

[615dawg]

I found myself in a strange spot Saturday at the game and others seemed to agree. In the past it seemed that it was obvious the coach needed to go (Morehead and Arnett). But this is the first time I've found myself hoping we lose just so we can get rid of Lebby and I'm not sure losing out will do it because he is getting the KT1 pass because of injury? Anyone else feel this horrible feeling?

I love how we are comparing a coach that has won 3 SEC games in three years, all by one score to Moorhead, while was not a good fit, had the fifth best SEC record of any coach we've ever had, and the best since 1955.

 

[PBRME]

I can accept we will ahead of time, but never hope we lose. I hope we win out.

 

[Cancellerius]

The only strange time was when we went to #1. Everything else has been normal times, sad to say.

 

[SanfordRJones]

I found myself in a strange spot Saturday at the game and others seemed to agree. In the past it seemed that it was obvious the coach needed to go (Morehead and Arnett). But this is the first time I've found myself hoping we lose just so we can get rid of Lebby and I'm not sure losing out will do it because he is getting the KT1 pass because of injury? Anyone else feel this horrible feeling?

I don't know, I think it feels pretty familiar since I lived through the Croom years. Just like with this 17ing imbecile in 2024, I completely checked out early in Croom's first year because I recognized by the 3rd or 4th game that he was in over his head and would never succeed. I didn't get back on board until we finally fired his as$ and hired a competent coach. It's the same situation here.

 

[615dawg]

I don't know, I think it feels pretty familiar since I lived through the Croom years. Just like with this 17ing imbecile in 2024, I completely checked out early in Croom's first year because I recognized by the 3rd or 4th game that he was in over his head and would never succeed. I didn't get back on board until we finally fired his as$ and hired a competent coach. It's the same situation here.

Croom had Ellis Johnson's defense in 2007. Lebby has Kamario Taylor.

Both detracted from the fact that the coaches were over their head. And just like when Ellis Johnson left Croom for the DC job at South Carolina, Croom returned to being a 4-8 coach at best, when KT leaves, Lebby will be a 4-8 coach at best.

Lebby is a lot like Ellis Johnson. Ellis Johnson was a great defensive coordinator at Alabama, Clemson, Mississippi State and South Carolina. He was a terrible head coach, a career record of 17-40 including an 0-12 stint at Southern Miss. But after USM, he goes to Auburn and calls the defensive alignment that led to the Kick Six.

 

[kired]

I love how we are comparing a coach that has won 3 SEC games in three years, all by one score to Moorhead, while was not a good fit, had the fifth best SEC record of any coach we've ever had, and the best since 1955.

They feel pretty similar to me. It's like splitting hairs at this point. Moorhead was more successful because he stepped into a lot better situation. He went 8-4 with a generational talent in Simmons that didn't get injured. Lebby would have won 8 if KT was 100%. They both had their moments - but the majority of the time it's been obvious neither were cut out for being an SEC head coach.

 

[DAWGSANDSAINTS]

For the first time in a long long time I had the feeling of I just really don’t give a 17 whether we win or lose this game.
As a lifelong diehard Bulldog supporter, very sad and surreal.

 

[GiantInternetAsshole]

I found myself in a strange spot Saturday at the game and others seemed to agree. In the past it seemed that it was obvious the coach needed to go (Morehead and Arnett). But this is the first time I've found myself hoping we lose just so we can get rid of Lebby and I'm not sure losing out will do it because he is getting the KT1 pass because of injury? Anyone else feel this horrible feeling?

Yep. And if they do keep him at 5-7, I think we’re well within our right to have a Tennessee level revolt against it

 

[Pak Drescott]

I love how we are comparing a coach that has won 3 SEC games in three years, all by one score to Moorhead, while was not a good fit, had the fifth best SEC record of any coach we've ever had, and the best since 1955.

Mullen had a better SEC record than Joe.

Lebby and Moorhead are being compared because they are both offensive coordinators that have shown they can't handle being a head coach

 

[eckie1]

I love how we are comparing a coach that has won 3 SEC games in three years, all by one score to Moorhead, while was not a good fit, had the fifth best SEC record of any coach we've ever had, and the best since 1955.

Moorhead inherited the best defense that has ever stepped on Scott Field and the SEC’s all-time rushing leader at QB. Lebby inherited the biggest disaster in college football in the past 10 or more years.

I’d love to be able to see what the rock kicker could’ve done if the tables were turned. I’d bet the results might even be worse.

At the end of the day, neither of them are good coaches. But the circumstances were vastly different.

 

[BreckyBratt]

Well sh** Sherrill and Leach were head coaches that came here and won. Mullen, Moorehead, and Lebby OC's that came here one actually elevated the program. Croom dealt a "bad hand by being the only NFL guy". Just think it's time to start hiring head coaches. Only one of three offensive coordinators have produced. Arnett as HC, about erased that debacle from my mind, was the only defensive coordinator. It's time for us to hire a HC, OC, and a DC. Ohhh but we can't afford it. Stop selling ourselves short and hire a trifecta of coaches and build on that. If an o minded coach has to call each play then no thank you same for a d minded HC. We need coaches that work together with coordinators, you know the guys that spend more time with each side of the ball than the other. The days of HC/OC or DC are over.

 

[TaleofTwoDogs]

Hire good and the masses will contribute. Hire poorly again and they will not. Simple.

 

[triton28]

Hire good and the masses will contribute. Hire poorly again and they will not. Simple.

Unless the new college football business is a shell game and we are a prop. That would be valuable to certain entities whose wallets far out weigh ours.

 

[thekimmer]

Strange? I find it sad, hopeless, disgusting, frustrating, nauseating, infuriating, gut-wrenching, and humiliating, but OK, strange works too.

 

[drexeldog23]

I been around since '98 and have seen many many , many, many , a-- whippings. I have accepted defeat many , many, many , many times but have never wished for defeat. It's just not in me.

 

[golferdog]

I never want us to lose, but most of the time I just expect it now. I feel so defeated as an MSU fan in any sport other than baseball.

 

[Deltaduckhunter]

It might end up feeling a lot like 2019 soon, but kind of reverse. That was the year that OM fired Matt Luke in Dec and then we waited until January to let Moorehead go.

I honestly don't see the team that I watch on Saturday winning another game this year, including Tenn Tech. If OU knocks off OM, it's going to be pretty apparent that a future without Trinidad and Lacey is not very bright. I could see us making a move and then OM making a move later. Just assuming they are not very prepared now since they were in the playoff discussion just a week ago.

The most likely MSU scenario though is OU knocks off OM, the fans and players give up on the team, which allows us to pull off the miraculous upset, and Lebby gets a 3 year extension.

 

[OG Goat Holder]

I love how we are comparing a coach that has won 3 SEC games in three years, all by one score to Moorhead, while was not a good fit, had the fifth best SEC record of any coach we've ever had, and the best since 1955.

They are the same level of shltty, along with Croom.

I am not one of those that thinks Croom and/or Lebby inherited this horrific situation. That's just excuse making, we all know good coaches can turn things around quickly.

But Moorhead did inherit a good situation, at least in the first year. We lost a lot in his second year, but we had not excuse to be as pathetic as we were, and then that stupidass Tutorgate, which makes about as much sense as Lebby playing games on where we'd start Taylor.

This really can't be debated. You have to look past sheer record. It's like those folks saying Leach had a losing season in 2020, when it wasn't a typical schedule. There's nuance.

 

[Darryl Steight]

I been around since '98 and have seen many many , many, many , a-- whippings. I have accepted defeat many , many, many , many times but have never wished for defeat. It's just not in me.

You are but a youth... but I am with you bro. I can't pull for us to lose. Acceptance is about all I can muster.

 

[Darryl Steight]

The most likely MSU scenario though is OU knocks off OM, the fans and players give up on the team, which allows us to pull off the miraculous upset, and Lebby gets a 3 year extension.

Shiiiit, give me this right now. I'll take it. We need something good to happen.

 

[Deltaduckhunter]

Shiiiit, give me this right now. I'll take it. We need something good to happen.

I honestly would take it too, minus the three year extension!

 

[RBcoach]

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