Football College Football Playoff expands to 24 teams after new ESPN media rights deal

DJ Spanky

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So college football is now officially the NFL-Lite.

Ugh.

 
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RUChet

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I’m in favor

FCS has been doing this forever and it works fine

Like eliminating conf champ game as it’s pointless

We need new names for FCS and FBS because bowls aren’t really a focus anymore.

I like D1 Premiere for FBS and D1 for FCS. Over time I’d like to see at least 2/3rds of G6 move down a level and top 3rd form their own conference is merge into P4 like Boise St. too many bad teams
 

M.Sherrane

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I’m in favor

FCS has been doing this forever and it works fine

Like eliminating conf champ game as it’s pointless

We need new names for FCS and FBS because bowls aren’t really a focus anymore.

I like D1 Premiere for FBS and D1 for FCS. Over time I’d like to see at least 2/3rds of G6 move down a level and top 3rd form their own conference is merge into P4 like Boise St. too many bad teams

I'm lukewarm on this. I agree with the expansion to 24. We've grown up with the Top 25 rankings for decades, so 24 is a justifiable playoff in my opinion. I have an issue with 19 At Large bids. I would rather have 3 automatic bid for each P4 conference with 2 or 3 automatic bids for the G6 teams which would provide 9 or 10 wildcards. The SEC and B1G could each easily field 6 playoff teams when the conference is strong and 4 in down years. I've grown tired of "experts" who don't seem to know more than the average fan.
 

rosenst2

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1-AA has 24
Division 2 has 32
Division 3 has 40.

I think as long as 1-A doesn't go more than 24, it's fine

This will also mean that more big time OOC games are scheduled which is great for the fans.
 
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mdk02

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The towns that sponsored minor bowls (and some sponsoring larger ones given the on-campus schedule) will take a revenue hit. The teams not so much as their costs were about as much as the payouts. This is ESPN saying "We don't want the biggest piece of the pie, we want the whole damn thing".
 

NickRU714

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I'm lukewarm on this. I agree with the expansion to 24. We've grown up with the Top 25 rankings for decades, so 24 is a justifiable playoff in my opinion. I have an issue with 19 At Large bids. I would rather have 3 automatic bid for each P4 conference with 2 or 3 automatic bids for the G6 teams which would provide 9 or 10 wildcards. The SEC and B1G could each easily field 6 playoff teams when the conference is strong and 4 in down years. I've grown tired of "experts" who don't seem to know more than the average fan.

What's the difference between at large bids and guaranteed bids for P4 conference?

Why not leave as at large instead of forcing a potentially bad P4 team?

If the 4th best ACC team deserves to make it, they can make it as an at-large.
Why give conferences more than 1 automatic qualifier?
 

NightKnight

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What? Are you telling me that these bowls that sold their souls to be corporate shills no longer hold a place in fans' hearts? That's too bad.
 

RUChet

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I'm lukewarm on this. I agree with the expansion to 24. We've grown up with the Top 25 rankings for decades, so 24 is a justifiable playoff in my opinion. I have an issue with 19 At Large bids. I would rather have 3 automatic bid for each P4 conference with 2 or 3 automatic bids for the G6 teams which would provide 9 or 10 wildcards. The SEC and B1G could each easily field 6 playoff teams when the conference is strong and 4 in down years. I've grown tired of "experts" who don't seem to know more than the average fan.
No please to got vids per conference. I hate that. The conf leader gets in but then let it play out as 1 year maybe 8 teams from one conference should get in and next year 1.

Like hoops, there are no auto bids except conf winner
 
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Why is Notre Dame going to be expected to earn one of only 19 at-large bids? Outrageous! JFC! A three loss ND team with losses to BYU, Liberty and Miami must be guaranteed a spot!
 

Nycrusupporter

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I’m in favor

FCS has been doing this forever and it works fine

Like eliminating conf champ game as it’s pointless

We need new names for FCS and FBS because bowls aren’t really a focus anymore.

I like D1 Premiere for FBS and D1 for FCS. Over time I’d like to see at least 2/3rds of G6 move down a level and top 3rd form their own conference is merge into P4 like Boise St. too many bad teams
Don’t wish relegation on anyone, otherwise it could come for us . . .
 

Nycrusupporter

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With a 24 team playoff, all 10 Conference champions should have a spot and P-4 Conference Championship[ games be considered playoff games.
Leaving 10 at large spots to fill.
These decisions are all about money and power. To get the SEC and BIG to go along with this, they will only agree if they have the opportunity to get as many teams as possible in. And then will only agree to it if they get paid most of the revenue available.
 

RU#1fan

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Mar 7, 2003
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Why? What good match ups are being removed?

It'll be the same games. Just a different title. Playoff game instead of a bowl game.
You’re now taking 24 teams out of Bowl games.
Was 4 …12….now 24.
Obviously fewer teams will be available…. Bowls going away.
 

iReC89

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Non playoff bowl games take a big prestige hit. There used to be a handful of top bowl games and the rest somewhat equally irrelevant. Now there are 12? very relevant first round games and a bunch of why bother bowls.
 

M.Sherrane

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What's the difference between at large bids and guaranteed bids for P4 conference?

Why not leave as at large instead of forcing a potentially bad P4 team?

If the 4th best ACC team deserves to make it, they can make it as an at-large.
Why give conferences more than 1 automatic qualifier?

So, the mythical championships were all 100% legitimate, correct? The larger the conference, the less legitimacy the Conference Champion is the "best" team.

I'm lukewarm on this. I agree with the expansion to 24. We've grown up with the Top 25 rankings for decades, so 24 is a justifiable playoff in my opinion. I have an issue with 19 At Large bids. I would rather have 3 automatic bid for each P4 conference with 2 or 3 automatic bids for the G6 teams which would provide 9 or 10 wildcards. The SEC and B1G could each easily field 6 playoff teams when the conference is strong and 4 in down years. I've grown tired of "experts" who don't seem to know more than the average fan.

In a 24-team field last year, the B1g got 5 or 6 (depending on 2 or 3 G6 bids) with Indiana, Ohio State, Oregon, USC, Michigan, and Iowa*, while the SEC got 7, the Big 12 got 5, the ACC got 4, with Notre Dame, Tulane, James Madison, and North Texas* rounding out the field. Any Power 4 Conference that can't consistently field 12.5% of the playoff field isn't a true power conference. The original BCS formula's design was an attempt to minimize human bias, but we don't really seem to want that.
 

NickRU714

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You’re now taking 24 teams out of Bowl games.
Was 4 …12….now 24.
Obviously fewer teams will be available…. Bowls going away.

Are there going to be less games though?

There may be less "bowls".
But does that matter?

The games will still be played.
But they will be labeled a "playoff".

There will actually be more games overall wont there be?


So to my original question: why does it matter if the games are "playoff games" and not "bowl games"?
 

RU#1fan

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Bowl as an Event…. A Destination for players, fans.
Sponsored theme, etc.
Playoffs fine. One game..move on or not
 

M.Sherrane

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Bowl as an Event…. A Destination for players, fans.
Sponsored theme, etc.
Playoffs fine. One game..move on or not

Bowl games are no longer attractive. Attendance was down over 15% last year from the previous year. Possible in party due to players opting out of playing in them. They are not nearly as attractive as they were 20+ years ago. On the other hand, home playoff games are selling out just like big regular season games. It is reasonable to expect a home playoff game would draw many more fans than a playoff game in the Liberty / Independence / Gator / Music City / etc Bowls.
 

NickRU714

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I would assume literally every effected fan and player would rather be in a "playoff game" (with the potential to advance) than just a one off "bowl game"

Regarding sponsor theme - do you really care if the game you are watching is sponsored by Cheez-Its?
 

NickRU714

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There will still be players opting out

Yes of course.
The point is currently, key players on the top 12 teams won't opt out - playoff teams.

Next year, that extends to key players on the top 24 teams.
More teams in the playoffs means more "meaningful" games overall.
One side effect of which is less key players opting out.
 
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Anon1751505680

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I’m in favor

FCS has been doing this forever and it works fine

Like eliminating conf champ game as it’s pointless

We need new names for FCS and FBS because bowls aren’t really a focus anymore.

I like D1 Premiere for FBS and D1 for FCS. Over time I’d like to see at least 2/3rds of G6 move down a level and top 3rd form their own conference is merge into P4 like Boise St. too many bad teams
Pro, semi-pro, student athletes
 
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