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OSU,neb, Mich, Purdue all lost this weekend and have fired assistants by Monday.
Oregon,illinois , fired assistants earlier in season. Md fired their coach.

Is this more prevalent than in past?
With head coaches locked into huge contracts and the pressure to make playoffs is this the new default code when seasons go south?

More call-out from the nfl-ization of college fb?
I cannot remember Hayden or kf firing any assistants in season from 1979 to 2026.

Kf is going to have to adapt again to this new scapegoating tactic.....not.

Kf is more the" measure twice,cut once" deliberate style of hiring.
Purdue will have a new defensive coordinator this week or odom will take over those duties...hope it doesn't work.
 
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Palmerhawk said:
OSU,neb, Mich, Purdue all lost this weekend and have fired assistants by Monday.
Oregon,illinois , fired assistants earlier in season. Md fired their coach.

Is this more prevalent than in past?
With head coaches locked into huge contracts and the pressure to make playoffs is this the new default code when seasons go south?

More call-out from the nfl-ization of college fb?
I cannot remember Hayden or kf firing any assistants in season from 1979 to 2026.

Kf is going to have to adapt again to this new scapegoating tactic.....not.

Kf is more the" measure twice,cut once" deliberate style of hiring.
Purdue will have a new defensive coordinator this week or odom will take over those duties...hope it doesn't work.
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To answer your OP, I think it is more prevalent. At least, I don’t remember assistants getting axed before season’s end to this degree.

And I do believe it’s exactly that—scapegoating.
 
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squeezebox_1 said:
Also hiring season, NC State just hired former High school coach Phillip Rivers....I bet that is going to work out well
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Iowa tried that when it hired Bob Commings, a starter on Evy's Rose Bowl teams, out of a major high school in Ohio. Notre Dame tried it when it hired Gerry Faust. I imagine there are other examples, but those two come to mind. Neither was a success, which doesn't mean NC State's gamble won't be, but I doubt it.
 
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DukeSlater said:
Iowa tried that when it hired Bob Commings, a starter on Evy's Rose Bowl teams, out of a major high school in Ohio. Notre Dame tried it when it hired Gerry Faust. I imagine there are other examples, but those two come to mind. Neither was a success, which doesn't mean NC State's gamble won't be, but I doubt it.
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Yeah, I don't see a single example of it working out. I understand if you want to give him a shot at QB coach, hell maybe even a stint as an OC, but there are zero success stories in modern football. Dilfer at UAB, Tony Sanchez, Todd Dodge.
 
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Palmerhawk said:
OSU,neb, Mich, Purdue all lost this weekend and have fired assistants by Monday.
Oregon,illinois , fired assistants earlier in season. Md fired their coach.

Is this more prevalent than in past?
With head coaches locked into huge contracts and the pressure to make playoffs is this the new default code when seasons go south?

More call-out from the nfl-ization of college fb?
I cannot remember Hayden or kf firing any assistants in season from 1979 to 2026.

Kf is going to have to adapt again to this new scapegoating tactic.....not.

Kf is more the" measure twice,cut once" deliberate style of hiring.
Purdue will have a new defensive coordinator this week or odom will take over those duties...hope it doesn't work.
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It’s the schedule, they need the portal to happen before the end of January so kids can enroll in second semester classes. Players want to know who their coaches will be, so you have to hire someone before the portal opens on Jan 4. Basically you have to find a coach before you play your bowl game, so coaches are getting fired in season now.
 
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Passing Is For COMMIES said:
It’s the schedule, they need the portal to happen before the end of January so kids can enroll in second semester classes. Players want to know who their coaches will be, so you have to hire someone before the portal opens on Jan 4. Basically you have to find a coach before you play your bowl game, so coaches are getting fired in season now.
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I agree, this is an attempt to have roster continuity.
 
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WeBeHerkin said:
Rabbit season / duck season.
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Passing Is For COMMIES said:
It’s the schedule, they need the portal to happen before the end of January so kids can enroll in second semester classes. Players want to know who their coaches will be, so you have to hire someone before the portal opens on Jan 4. Basically you have to find a coach before you play your bowl game, so coaches are getting fired in season now.
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That's funny
 
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Rifler said:
Kirk will keep doing Kirk things....
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The OP was asking if this is "the new cheat code". Is covering your backside the new thing. WHO should be let go on the staff? And Frankly theirs no comparison anyway. Day and Lanning were both top 2 picks to win it all THIS season and big money schools. Locksley should probably have been fired long ago, (although his leaving was mutual) ;) Rhule's been scrambling since he got to Nebraska. But your right Kirk isn't going to go down that road barring some real mess, and he won't be under pressure to do that.
 
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Passing Is For COMMIES said:
It’s the schedule, they need the portal to happen before the end of January so kids can enroll in second semester classes. Players want to know who their coaches will be, so you have to hire someone before the portal opens on Jan 4. Basically you have to find a coach before you play your bowl game, so coaches are getting fired in season now.
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Passing Is For COMMIES said:
It’s the schedule, they need the portal to happen before the end of January so kids can enroll in second semester classes. Players want to know who their coaches will be, so you have to hire someone before the portal opens on Jan 4. Basically you have to find a coach before you play your bowl game, so coaches are getting fired in season now.
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That's probably a factor
 
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squeezebox_1 said:
Also hiring season, NC State just hired former High school coach Phillip Rivers....I bet that is going to work out well
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I suppose Rivers has millions and millions so why coach at that level and spend so much time away from family. There has to be something more important he can do like with any type of foundation that helps people but maybe he already has that
 
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Passing Is For COMMIES said:
It’s the schedule, they need the portal to happen before the end of January so kids can enroll in second semester classes. Players want to know who their coaches will be, so you have to hire someone before the portal opens on Jan 4. Basically you have to find a coach before you play your bowl game, so coaches are getting fired in season now.
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Can a player announce they are going to transfer as soon as their team season is done, so maybe by Dec. 5th or so? If they can and if they can contact other teams before the portal actually opens then maybe they will have an idea where they might go.
 
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uihawk82 said:
Can a player announce they are going to transfer as soon as their team season is done, so maybe by Dec. 5th or so? If they can and if they can contact other teams before the portal actually opens then maybe they will have an idea where they might go.
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A player can announce at any time their intention to enter the portal, but (according to NCAA rules) no contact/recruiting of players is allowed until that player is officially in the portal (starting Jan 4).

It leaves an interesting situation for teams that make it to the CFP semifinals. First off, those 4 teams aren't going to be able to recruit the portal as heavily as the other schools because they are preparing for another game (or two). Similarly, the players on those teams who intend to enter the portal have a choice to make: Enter the portal on Jan 4th when portal recruiting begins and (likely) be left off the roster for remaining game(s), or remain with the team throughout the postseason, entering the portal after the final game, but then may have far fewer options for transferring (and NIL $) that they would had they entered the portal earlier. It could also involve some pretty important players on these teams (e.g. QB2).

Don't you just love the purity and innocence of college sports?
 
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Palmerhawk said:
OSU,neb, Mich, Purdue all lost this weekend and have fired assistants by Monday.
Oregon,illinois , fired assistants earlier in season. Md fired their coach.

Is this more prevalent than in past?
With head coaches locked into huge contracts and the pressure to make playoffs is this the new default code when seasons go south?

More call-out from the nfl-ization of college fb?
I cannot remember Hayden or kf firing any assistants in season from 1979 to 2026.

Kf is going to have to adapt again to this new scapegoating tactic.....not.

Kf is more the" measure twice,cut once" deliberate style of hiring.
Purdue will have a new defensive coordinator this week or odom will take over those duties...hope it doesn't work.
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That was a great post and so much truth to it.. I miss the 80’s and 90’s… simple life and not all this garbage firing going on
 
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MeetTheFerentzes said:
A player can announce at any time their intention to enter the portal, but (according to NCAA rules) no contact/recruiting of players is allowed until that player is officially in the portal (starting Jan 4).

It leaves an interesting situation for teams that make it to the CFP semifinals. First off, those 4 teams aren't going to be able to recruit the portal as heavily as the other schools because they are preparing for another game (or two). Similarly, the players on those teams who intend to enter the portal have a choice to make: Enter the portal on Jan 4th when portal recruiting begins and (likely) be left off the roster for remaining game(s), or remain with the team throughout the postseason, entering the portal after the final game, but then may have far fewer options for transferring (and NIL $) that they would had they entered the portal earlier. It could also involve some pretty important players on these teams (e.g. QB2).

Don't you just love the purity and innocence of college sports?
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I'm not shedding a lot of tears for teams making the semis. I have a feeling that even with all these disadvantages, recruiting wise, they'll be ok.
 
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