First night stat line - the centers

[seels2662]

16 points, 10 rebounds, 4 assists. If we get that statline from the centers every night we'll be in good shape.

 

[richthedentist]

16 points, 10 rebounds, 4 assists. If we get that statline from the centers every night we'll be in good shape.

And Gurdak only played 17 minutes because of foul trouble and really wasn't needed too much in the second half!!

 

[PSAL_Hoops]

I’m looking forward to the next few games to see how we look. New Haven certainly isn’t “good”, but they probably won’t suck Rider bad (Rider won 4 games last season). New Haven went 9-9 in their conference (albeit a weak low major). Outside of Rider who I believe fell into a different level of bad than even the rest of the 300s - we struggled to truly put anyone away early in the preseason (and even Rider was a 2 point game late in the first half).

 

[PhillyRU]

I’m looking forward to the next few games to see how we look. New Haven certainly isn’t “good”, but they probably won’t suck Rider bad (Rider won 4 games last season). New Haven went 9-9 in their conference (albeit a weak low major). Outside of Rider who I believe fell into a different level of bad than even the rest of the 300s - we struggled to truly put anyone away early in the preseason (and even Rider was a 2 point game late in the first half).

New Haven is No. 355 in KenPom right now, and Rider was No. 357 at the end of last season, so I think there's a good chance they'll end up pretty similar.

Doesn't make it a bad result, though. A 28-point win over the No. ~355 team is a much better result than a 12-point win over Nos. 300-350 Lehigh/Maine or a nine-point win over No. 250 American (or losing to CCSU lol). If we play as we did against New Haven, the rest of the non-conference, we'll be in fine shape metrically compared to last season.

 

[PSAL_Hoops]

New Haven is No. 355 in KenPom right now, and Rider was No. 357 at the end of last season, so I think there's a good chance they'll end up pretty similar.

Doesn't make it a bad result, though. A 28-point win over the No. ~355 team is a much better result than a 12-point win over Nos. 300-350 Lehigh/Maine or a nine-point win over No. 250 American (or losing to CCSU lol). If we play as we did against New Haven, the rest of the non-conference, we'll be in fine shape metrically compared to last season.

I mean they might end up finishing “pretty similar” in the KenPom standings but at the bottom of the pack there is often a steep curve separating a few spots. Remember - there are only 365 teams in total. Rider finished 357. Maine finished 348. But Maine was a lot better than Rider in my opinion.

I also don’t think current positioning in KenPom means much of anything right now at the low major level. New Haven finished 328 last year and didn’t return their starting production so they dropped down in the algorithm. They aren’t sitting that low because of the 16 point loss to Syracuse. By way of comparison, every high major beat Rider last season by 20+ and average MOV was in the 30s. Rider stood out as one of the worst collegiate teams I’ve ever seen. New Haven just looked like a typical low major cup cake in my view. I guess we’ll find out soon enough.

 

[seels2662]

New Haven outscored Syracuse in the second half. They are a cupcake, but as mentioned earlier they are way better than some of the others we play. Wouldn't be surprised is they end up in the 290's.

As far a our resume, as long as we win enough games, none of these low level teams will hurt us in the eyes of the committee. We are going to have an absolute ton of quad 1 games this year.

 

[seansherm]

While, yes, we'd be ecstatic with that stat line every night, way to early to say. New Haven is bad and their biggest guy was listed at like 6'8, so you know he was smaller than that. We had 11 rebounds and like 2 points by Ware in the mentioned Rider match up last year.

Gurdak is showing to be much more offensively aggressive than he was last year, and we didn't seem shy to get it to him so have to figure he'll score some. Don't expect much scoring against real teams out of the back ups.

 

[Simce91]

Bottom line, Miteo definitely has some skills, and Ware has gotten better from last year