FC/OT: DOJ sues Penn State over tuition discrimination.

[Midnighter]

 

[BUFFALO LION]

If we’re doing that crap we should be sued.

GO DOJ!!!!!!

 

[Chumboshifko1]

Does this surprise anyone?

 

[BobPSU92]

I’m sure it’s all just a misunderstanding.

 

[Midnighter]

I’m sure it’s all just a misunderstanding.

PSU's response so far not good IMO....

 

[Steve JG]

A kid who goes to 4 years high school in PA gets in state tuition. Versus a kid who does not live in PA gets out of state tuition. That’s the issue being adjudicated

 

[PSUFTG]

Uh, no

These are links to the policies in question:
Resources for Undocumented Students | Undergraduate Admissions
Resources for Undocumented Students | Undergraduate Admissions

Not only does PSU provide tuition discounts to non-citizens (residing in PA), it actively encourages those non-citizens to NOT disclose the parameters of their non-citizenship status.

These have been PSU policies for some time, and it was only a matter of time before the DOJ got around to addressing PSU for these flaunts of Federal Law.

FWIW:
Sooner or later they MAY get around to the many, many violations of Federal Law at PSU vav the "DEI" stuff - but I say MAY, because they may never get around to that issue here at PSU, because there are so many Universities who the DOJ views as "bigger fish" yet to address.

 

[Bkmtnittany1]

I’m sure it’s all just a misunderstanding.

What if the undocumented kid is 6-3, 220 and runs a 4.3?

 

[BobPSU92]

What if the undocumented kid is 6-3, 220 and runs a 4.3?

In that case, he ain’t coming to PSU.

 

[BobPSU92]

PSU's response so far not good IMO....

From the article:

”A Penn State spokesperson told Onward State the university is “aware of the complaint and is reviewing it.””

They left off “and we don’t give a sh|t.”

 

[Alphalion75]

Hmmm....not cool. There are oodles of underprivileged Pa. Kids who deserve a an opportunity to get a college education. Penn State is broken.

 

[PSU Mike]

Bennepundy's love of DEI and her continued use of this program is not good and I hope will bring her down.

Help me. Is there any suggestion or evidence that undocumented students have admissions preference?

Was there historically — as in say 30 years ago — any consideration of citizenship status in the determination of in-state standing?

 

[Midnighter]

Hmmm....not cool. There are oodles of underprivileged Pa. Kids who deserve a an opportunity to get a college education. Penn State is broken.

Lots of other schools on the DOJ hitlist for this - including Oklahoma.....

 

[BobPSU92]

Any idea how long this has been going on at PSU? Did it start with Neeli?

 

[Erial_Lion]

Any idea how long this has been going on at PSU? Did it start with Neeli?

It predates Neeli.

 

[JWB389]

Lots of other schools on the DOJ hitlist for this - including Oklahoma.....

PSU = low hanging fruit. The feds know we’ll just roll over and pay out.

 

[BobPSU92]

PSU = low hanging fruit. The feds know we’ll just roll over and pay out.

Like the football team, I don’t think PSU has much of a defense.

 

[OUIrPSU]

Like the football team, I don’t think PSU has much of a defense.

That just might be the whatever it’s called cement crack of the week!

 

[G3624]

It predates Neeli.

Does it predates Rodney?

 

[Erial_Lion]

Does it predates Rodney?

Not sure...I did a quick Google Search of the policy pre-Neeli's hiring and found it was pretty much the same (and seemed to be the same at many State schools) in 2020.

 

[doctornick]

Any idea how long this has been going on at PSU? Did it start with Neeli?

Yeah, I think allowing non-documented residents of the state to get in state tuition is actually very common and long standing in most places in the USA. I remember it coming up in Maryland where I was living years ago (looks like it was in 2011 with the Maryland DREAM Act) and at the time my reaction was something like "well, obviously, you wouldn't give in state tuition to illegal immigrants, how is this even a question?" but yet the law passed.

 

[razpsu]

Go doj. We pay two out of state tuitions. Absolutely ridiculous psu does this .

 

[doctornick]

Go doj. We pay two out of state tuitions. Absolutely ridiculous psu does this .

The odd thing about it to me is how many state public universities often have extremely rigid processes to become eligible for in state tuition. Like even if your parents move to the state or you live there year round, you don'tr necessarily qualify. Or if your parents are divorced and one lives in a state but you graduated from high school in another state with a different parent then you don't qualify.

It just seems strange to me that these colleges aggressively define what it means to be a "resident" of the state in terms of keeping kids from getting in state discounts but then allow for non-citizens who are not there legally to qualify for resident status.

 

[razpsu]

The odd thing about it to me is how many state public universities often have extremely rigid processes to become eligible for in state tuition. Like even if your parents move to the state or you live there year round, you don'tr necessarily qualify. Or if your parents are divorced and one lives in a state but you graduated from high school in another state with a different parent then you don't qualify.

It just seems strange to me that these colleges aggressively define what it means to be a "resident" of the state in terms of keeping kids from getting in state discounts but then allow for non-citizens who are not there legally to qualify for resident status.

Yes literally until you are 24 years old can you establish residency

 

[SleepyLion]

I could never establish in-state tuition status for PSU, but I could vote in PA elections, pay EIT to PA Dept of Rev, Per Cap taxes locally, get a PA DL, etc.

 

[Bison13]

I could never establish in-state tuition status for PSU, but I could vote in PA elections, pay EIT to PA Dept of Rev, Per Cap taxes locally, get a PA DL, etc.

Yep, not exactly the most in-state friendly university. It’s almost as if they are trying to keep Pennsylvania kids away.