OSU Invitational 11/1/26

[jon_osu]

how was the attendance?

 

[newguy123]

Wish I could have been there! I do want to say there's probably not a Cowboy fan that doesn't want Dee to succeed. Heck other fanbases are pulling for Dee too from what I can tell. But performatively stalling and arguing with refs is not a good look.

 

[Travis25]

165: Everyone knows how this weight played out by this point. Here's my question: in our pursuit of a team title and after seeing or hearing how each guy looked (granted its early) do you feel either of these guys is a lock for a top 4-5 finish at NCAAs? I mentioned months ago when there were rumors that maybe Alex dropping to 165 was the best option? Im not convinced this still isnt the best option. Considering both Dee's and Casey's size (both on the smaller side) along with how theyre wrestling what are your thoughts?

I agree that neither guy is anywhere close to a lock for a top 5 finish. I am not sure that you gain a lot by swapping Facundo for Swiderski/Dee at 165. It seems like Facundo thinks 174 is the best place for him to break into the lineup, which tells you something. Based on what I saw yesterday, I'd roll with Swiderski at 165 and go with either Ryder or Norman at 174.

We have a lot of solid options at 165 and 174. I am not yet convinced any of them are great options.

 

[skylinepoke]

how was the attendance?

Really hard to guess. I would think 3-4,000 as people kept trickling in all afternoon. The curtains were down on the upper level but they started raising them by mid afternoon.

 

[Corby2]

Was the fundraiser a success?

 

[osu2082]

I'm sure it could evolve over the season, but Casey absolutely should be the guy until proven otherwise. He earned it.

I'm just saying we've had plenty of matches where Casey frankly wasn't as aggressive as he should be. Heck last time we saw Casey on the mat he was pretty checked out (NCAAs). Once Casey was on the backside he phoned it in.

I say this not to criticize Casey. Love the kid and glad he is a Cowboy. I was sticking up for him last year. I just think it is ironic because I actually see a lot of similarities between Casey and Dee at times.

We would (and did) hate Casey if he wrestled for any other school.

Casey was booed and heckled by some of our owns fans this past year, especially in the beginning. He earned a lot of their respect and admiration with his finish down the stretch and the way the staff and his teammates glowed about him.

Dee hasn’t done any of the above. He looks disinterested at times, looks like he is lazy, looks like he has constant gas tank issues and takes forever to get back to the middle (his coaches yelled at him for that several times last year). You add all that with some celebrations that were ill timed and your own fans are at best skeptical of you.

I agree and don’t like the booing but he has set his own table in some respects here.

 

[Air_Thurman]

Casey was booed and heckled by some of our owns fans this past year, especially in the beginning. He earned a lot of their respect and admiration with his finish down the stretch and the way the staff and his teammates glowed about him.

Dee hasn’t done any of the above. He looks disinterested at times, looks like he is lazy, looks like he has constant gas tank issues and takes forever to get back to the middle (his coaches yelled at him for that several times last year). You add all that with some celebrations that were ill timed and your own fans are at best skeptical of you.

I agree and don’t like the booing but he has set his own table in some respects here.

I've probably been Casey's biggest defender on this board. I hated when our fanbase turned on Casey last year and I hate to see them boo Dee. I think Dee has some things he needs to figure out and work on. I get being frustrated. I don't get booing him in a ranking match.

I think its ironic because it took Casey five years of college and a transfer to get to this point. He had a lot of growing to do. He was an ubber recruit who didn't live up to the hype, could not generate offense, and consistently was doing dumb stuff on the mat (remember we all hated the guy).

Now he is an integral leader on our team who everyone loves. Dee has some growing up to do. I think Casey is a perfect example of not giving up on a kid doing that.

 

[vhsalum]

Casey was booed and heckled by some of our owns fans this past year, especially in the beginning. He earned a lot of their respect and admiration with his finish down the stretch and the way the staff and his teammates glowed about him.

Dee hasn’t done any of the above. He looks disinterested at times, looks like he is lazy, looks like he has constant gas tank issues and takes forever to get back to the middle (his coaches yelled at him for that several times last year). You add all that with some celebrations that were ill timed and your own fans are at best skeptical of you.

I agree and don’t like the booing but he has set his own table in some respects here.

Dee has more than earned the boos.

The antics, the stalling, the complaining, the lack of effort - getting gassed??? It's shenanigans, it's beneath his talent and the work the people in the program do.

And guess what? He's getting paid. He's not some poor college kid.

 

[Travis25]

We keep saying that the crowd booed Dee, but they were really booing the ref for not calling a well-deserved stall point and booing the operators for their inability to figure out the clock. It's not like they booed Dee during his intro song. Let's not be over dramatic about it.

 

[mugwamp2]

As someone who likes both Dee and Swid I find it odd how people treat one verse the other. Swid wasn't exactly super aggressive and he was doing plenty of complaining. Swid won and should be the guy to start the season. Went and got a TD when it mattered. Dee is way too in his own head.

The booing of Dee was utterly embarrassing. I'm rarely embarrassed by our fans, but I thought it was terrible.

The coaches were very disappointed that our fans booed D. Just could not understand any scenario where our own fans would be one of our guys

 

[tfpoke1]

The coaches were very disappointed that our fans booed D. Just could not understand any scenario where our own fans would be one of our guys

I'm disappointed that our coaches haven't forced any changes in Dee's wrestling. We all see it, but we don't see any changes. At some point that's on the coaches.

 

[Corby2]

The coaches were very disappointed that our fans booed D. Just could not understand any scenario where our own fans would be one of our guys

Never heard of anyone being booed at a fundraiser this is a first

 

[OSUBigBadBob]

Never heard of anyone being booed at a fundraiser this is a first

Huh? This wasn’t a Tuesday roll around practice. These matches counted for seeding, college records, and while I’m sure not the only factor for who starts this year were a contributing factor. I hated that he was good but don’tpretend this was ”just a fundraiser” all these guys wanted it, probably more than they would have “in the room”