OT: NY Mets 26-27 Offseason Thread

yesrutgers01

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Good one. I didn't know that.
How the world has changed. In that Series 9 of the 10 starting pitchers went at least 6 innings and four threw complete games. Seaver's CG was 10 innings.
Compare to the two inning guys and the "can't face the lineup the third time through" nonsense today.
Average game time was about 2:20.
remember when fans were critical of the stat "Qualified start" which meant 6+ innings and 3 or fewer runs. We all thought, "isn't that what is expected? Why is only 6 innings considered good in the first place.
 
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yesrutgers01

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I loved Koosman- He and Blyleven always reminded me of each other.

With his death- it made me go back and look at his stats again... Even I forgot just how good he was- his first 4 years can compare to almost any pitcher in history, and if he had pitched anywhere but the NYM's- he would have easily been over 300 wins. And he had somewhere between 8-10 seasons that I would call HOF type individual seasons. It really is his W/L record that has kept him out.
 

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remember when fans were critical of the stat "Qualified start" which meant 6+ innings and 3 or fewer runs. We all thought, "isn't that what is expected? Why is only 6 innings considered good in the first place.
I like the Quality (not Qualified) Start stat a lot, because it is a measure of consistency. You throw a quality start, you have kept your team in the game and given them a chance to win.

If you take two pitchers with otherwise identical stats for the season, but one has 20 quality starts and the other has 12, I'll take the 20. The other guy got his stats by throwing some gems and some stinkers. I much prefer consistency.

Back when the stat was first publicized, yes, the six inning minimum was criticized. It isn't any more. Six is the new seven.
 
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yesrutgers01

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I like the Quality (not Qualified) Start stat a lot, because it is a measure of consistency. You throw a quality start, you have kept your team in the game and given them a chance to win.

If you take two pitchers with otherwise identical stats for the season, but one has 20 quality starts and the other has 12, I'll take the 20. The other guy got his stats by throwing some gems and some stinkers. I much prefer consistency.

Back when the stat was first publicized, yes, the six inning minimum was criticized. It isn't any more. Six is the new seven.
That was pretty much my point. it is funny how when in 1985, when this became something- almost everyone was "wait- 6 innings and 3 runs is quality" and now- that man is a $25 mil guy. lol But I would actually argue the six is the new eight.
 
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