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Corby2

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Passivity is the biggest black eye and limiting factor for FS.

You take one of the greatest one on one competitions in the world and allow it to come down to the subjectivity of someone not competing. Just awful.
College will be going to a step out point and no headgear next summer it's sounding like and I can't wait
 

osu2082

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College will be going to a step out point and no headgear next summer it's sounding like and I can't wait

Im torn on the step out. On one hand I like that it puts pressure on guys who work the edge of mat and try to flee but I do hate that it rewards guys who just simply try to push people out.

Thats not the type of offensive wrestling that we need to help grow the sport here in the US.
 

vhsalum

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Allowing someone other that the two competitors to potentially dictate the outcome? Yes…

I’ve watched to many matches be decided by questionable or flat out awful passivity calls.

Oh please. That’s on the wrestlers. Score points. Do you remember the ball draw?

Watch the final 2 minutes of dakes match. He should have been cautioned out. Yuck
 
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chasepollard

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Oh please. That’s on the wrestlers. Score points. Do you remember the ball draw?

Watch the final 2 minutes of dakes match. He should have been cautioned out. Yuck
I forgot which match it was? I’m thinking Blaze vs. Iranian? It may have been Zane?

The ref kept saying, “back to center” and then put our guy on the clock? It was a severe WTF moment to me.

Officiating is a black eye for freestyle.
 

Corby2

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I forgot which match it was? I’m thinking Blaze vs. Iranian? It may have been Zane?

The ref kept saying, “back to center” and then put our guy on the clock? It was a severe WTF moment to me.

Officiating is a black eye for freestyle.
It's just that most have folkstyle brain and don't understand passivity. Freestyle if you keep your butt to the center and control the ties you won't be put on the clock much. Now in 0-0 matches after 2 minutes it's mandatory someone goes on the clock . If it's 0-0 and one guy goes on the clock and the period ends 1-0 the other guy will be out on the clock in :45 if no scoring happens. You know how it's gonna go . In folkstyle not so much you can be 0-0 for 3 minutes and no stall warnings happen they stand around and do nothing. My opinion the NCAA ref is a black eye for allowing 3 minutes 0-0
 
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vhsalum

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How is Dake being allowed to run around the mat an argument in favor of freestyle rules?

1. At least he was put on the clock. In folk, he wouldn’t have even warned until 7 seconds left

2. If you allow guys to run, they will. So saying “the refs shouldn’t get involved” is an absurd statement to make and literally denies all of human history.
 

osu2082

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Oh please. That’s on the wrestlers. Score points. Do you remember the ball draw?

Watch the final 2 minutes of dakes match. He should have been cautioned out. Yuck

Sure, the ball drop was worse. Anytime you are allowing someone other than the competitors to dictate the outcome of a match, you are missing IMO.

I think it’s one of the reasons FS just doesn’t catch on here.
 
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